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#16957
911 tape: 'Shoot him again!' husband tells wife. The recording of a 911 call made in Georgia reveals a chilling scene in which a husband coaches his white wife to shoot a black man just for entering their house.
There was no reason to shoot that man, sure he entered the house without permission but he didn't threaten the woman nor did he have a weapon of any kind. She could have told him to leave and if he didn't call the police. If he still didn't leave and threatened her then she could have fired a round into the floor to show she meant business, but she shot him five times in the head with no warning. No TV is worth killing a person for. Had a black woman did this to a white man she would be in jail.
#16988
Freedman wrote:
911 tape: 'Shoot him again!' husband tells wife. The recording of a 911 call made in Georgia reveals a chilling scene in which a husband coaches his white wife to shoot a black man just for entering their house.
There was no reason to shoot that man, sure he entered the house without permission but he didn't threaten the woman nor did he have a weapon of any kind. She could have told him to leave and if he didn't call the police. If he still didn't leave and threatened her then she could have fired a round into the floor to show she meant business, but she shot him five times in the head with no warning. No TV is worth killing a person for. Had a black woman did this to a white man she would be in jail.
Are you fucking nuts - the intruder knew it wasn't his house, knew he could be killed for the crime, knew it was a risk, and you really have no idea what the criminal was going to do.

They were 100% correct in shooting to kill, and you are stupid for not knowing that people are killed by hands/feet far more times than guns in this country - not to mention that he could have picked up any number of items in the home to use as a weapon.

Are you a Minority and have blinders because another minority got killed in a home invasion and you just don't like minorities being oppressed while threatening people and committing crimes?

The criminals actions were a direct and real threat - someone, anyone, breaking into a home is a threat to anyone in that home.
#17026
He broke into a home he knew was occupied with a crowbar. After breaking in the front door he broke through 2 more locked doors inside before getting to the family.

He was not there to ask to borrow a cup of sugar.

Had she not had a gun she, and her children would just be more victims.
#17030
Had she not had a gun she, and her children would just be more victims.
What makes you think he was going to kill them? She was judge and jury just because she had a gun and he was a black man. His crime only warranted 30 days in jail, not the death sentence.
#17048
Yes folks freedman really IS that stupid.

In the state where I live if someone is TRYING to break into my home with, say, a crowbar then I do not even have to wait for him to enter. It is perfectly legal to shoot him through the still closed door.

It sounds like where SHE lives there may be a 'duty to retreat' in the laws and that means that she had a duty to try to escape before shooting. Sounds like she did that and I congratulate her for protecting herself and her children and also protecting the families of those that this criminal might have hurt or killed in the future.

Furthermore she should be honored for cleansing the gene pool.

So Freedman, do you think that you would politely ask someone like this to leave after he broke in your house and broke down doors in you home to get to you? Good luck with that.
#17065
Furthermore she should be honored for cleansing the gene pool.

So Freedman, do you think that you would politely ask someone like this to leave after he broke in your house and broke down doors in you home to get to you? Good luck with that.
Cleansing the gen pool? See I told you this was a racist killing. Look, all he did was breaking and entering which at the max a 30 day jail sentence. He probably didn't even know anyone was home and need food or money just to survive and what does he get...5 bullets to the head from a person he did nothing to. She could have pointed the gun and ordered him to leave and we all know he would have left, she could then have reported him to the police. Even the police report says he was unharmed and didn't harm anyone in the house.
#17071
Yea, 30 days in jail and he would be out and breaking into homes again. Now, the report I read was that he was arrested after he fled and crashed his car and is still alive. He may still do 30 days in jail .....but I don;t think he;s going to be breaking and entering ever again.
#17072
Yea, 30 days in jail and he would be out and breaking into homes again. Now, the report I read was that he was arrested after he fled and crashed his car and is still alive. He may still do 30 days in jail .....but I don;t think he;s going to be breaking and entering ever again.
What does this particular man's life mean so little to you? You don't know what he's been through, he didn't hurt anyone.
#17081
Here is your poor, helpless victim, Freedman, you moron!

n February, Slater was arrested on simple battery charges, according to the Gwinnett County Sheriff's Office. He has been arrested six other times in the county since 2008.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/wo ... der/nTm7s/

BTW by 'cleansing the gene pool' I was referencing removing muggers, burglars, and thieves, etc. Apparently, by your statements, since he is black he is automatically innocent and 'harmless' -- according to you. Sounds like there is indeed racism at work here. Yours!

I suppose you think he was just walking through the neighborhood (which is approximately 70 miles from his home in Atlanta). While walking he tripped over a crack in the sidewalk and landed in an attic area where a woman and her two 9-year old kids were trying to hide from him, He thought they were trapped, so he was going to use a crowbar he just happened to have in his hand to free them and then treat them all to a milkshake. Yea that is probably the real story. Right Freedman?
#17088
I suppose you think he was just walking through the neighborhood (which is approximately 70 miles from his home in Atlanta).
So a black man shouldn't be walking in neighborhoods 70 miles from their home? Some of you jumped to the conclusion he was to rape and murder the woman and her children just be he's black. Unlawful entry is a minor crime. Since you qoute his past I notice you failed to mention any rapes or murders he's done in the past, it's all been little bullshit typical of a man just trying to survive. I admit he was wrong for entring their home but you won't admit it was wrong to try and blow his head off when he had done anything.
#17089
Come on, let's use some common sense.

Unless you chase a burglar down the street firing rounds off with a shotgun or pump two clips of ammo into the head of some lowlife in your back yard. It's well within your right to shoot an intruder who breaks into your home. Everybody understands that and nobody will argue that.

So what would someone argue? That the homeowner should have fled their home???
#17101
Maybe we could see how racist this was by showing that a Black Man targeted a White Woman and her White Children..... Freedman is an idiot.
She knew he was black when she shot him, he didn't know she was white when he went in her house. The guy was a Vet who fell on hard times, I'm not agreeg with what he did, I'm just saying had he been white and the woman black police would have arrested her for excessive force, she didn't have to shoot him, certianly not five times in the head. She should be under arrest and a trial held, the fact that nothing is happening is very telling.
#17102
Freedman wrote:
Maybe we could see how racist this was by showing that a Black Man targeted a White Woman and her White Children..... Freedman is an idiot.
She knew he was black when she shot him, he didn't know she was white when he went in her house. The guy was a Vet who fell on hard times, I'm not agreeg with what he did, I'm just saying had he been white and the woman black police would have arrested her for excessive force, she didn't have to shoot him, certianly not five times in the head. She should be under arrest and a trial held, the fact that nothing is happening is very telling.
How do you know what the violent criminal knew? Awfully presumptive of you to defend a violent criminal and be against the people defending themselves.

One time or 100 times, he chose to risk his life in pursuit of being a criminal, he chose that he didn't value his life and he lost it.
#17103
Personally, I think that any person that defends their property against criminals, even if they kill the criminals, should be praised by the public/system - that's how it should be, fighting against criminals, and it means that others are no longer at risk of being violently abused or even killed/raped, etc...

Criminals have the upper hand because of the liberal bullshit in this country - criminals tell us that their lives are not worth the value of the items they might take from others, that their lives are not worth as much as those they act violently against, because they CHOOSE to do those things of free will.
#17104
Freedman - how come you're not ranting about this Racist Black person killing a mentally retarded white man, showing all the signs of racism from the black man, http://www.dominionofnewyork.com/2012/0 ... es-arrest/

You blamed Zimmerman, but you don't hold this black male accountable for killing a white person that had not presented any threat to him.

What about this black racist killing a white child - nothing from you about it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LtaAyhWBJI

Come on, show your integrity, start ranting about how Blacks commit more violent crime against each other than any other group.... We know you won't address violent black on black crime.
#17105
I agree Leroy black on white crime is wrong, it's very wrong, millions of black men are in our jails, that's how wrong it is, but white on black crime seems to be OK because blacks are expendible. Nothing happens to the white person who shoots them, while the black man is held accountable, the white person isn't. That's all I'm trying to say, violence of any kind is wrong but justice is one sided, this white woman isn't even being investigated the moment they learned the victim of the shooting was black.
#17107
If I am in your house uninvited, I deserve whatever comes.
Maybe so but If you were black and you shot a white person five times in the head for just being in your house inivited you would be lucky if they allowed you out on bail pending trial.
#17108
Freedman wrote:I agree Leroy black on white crime is wrong, it's very wrong, millions of black men are in our jails, that's how wrong it is, but white on black crime seems to be OK because blacks are expendible. Nothing happens to the white person who shoots them, while the black man is held accountable, the white person isn't. That's all I'm trying to say, violence of any kind is wrong but justice is one sided, this white woman isn't even being investigated the moment they learned the victim of the shooting was black.
You're really delusional Freedman - you must be a racist yourself.

The facts are clear:

1) A black make violently broke into a house - not his own
2) You/I/Anyone has no idea what his intent was or what he might have done
3) He acted in a manner that showed he didn't value his own life as much as he valued other people posessions
4) He was killed legally, under the law, without regard to his race, according to the reports
5) Shooting a person multiple times is not against the law
6) The home owners almost certainly prevented other innocent people from being harmed by this criminal

So, there you go - nothing racist about it, nothing even remotely racist has been reported, but, as expected, a real racist is making a stink about a worthless piece of shit (criminal) being killed because he threw away his own life by breaking into someone's home.

Get a grip Freedman, your true racist nature is showing.
#17152
An intruder who was shot and killed after a confrontation with a Duluth woman in her shower was likely stalking her for days and may have other victims, Gwinnett police said.
Police: Woman Shot Intruder 9 Times In Self Defense School Counselor Shoots, Kills Home Intruder

The 53-year-old woman, who is also a veteran private school counselor, was alone at the time of the Wednesday morning attack. She lives on East Mount Tabor Circle in Duluth.
So this school employee is home "during work hours" and her minority lover (I mean random guy) joins her in the shower and she later shoots the minority 9 times and the police high five her???
#17157
Freedman wrote:
Furthermore she should be honored for cleansing the gene pool.

So Freedman, do you think that you would politely ask someone like this to leave after he broke in your house and broke down doors in you home to get to you? Good luck with that.
Cleansing the gen pool? See I told you this was a racist killing. Look, all he did was breaking and entering which at the max a 30 day jail sentence. He probably didn't even know anyone was home and need food or money just to survive and what does he get...5 bullets to the head from a person he did nothing to. She could have pointed the gun and ordered him to leave and we all know he would have left, she could then have reported him to the police. Even the police report says he was unharmed and didn't harm anyone in the house.
Freedman, there is nothing racist in any of the documents presented about this case, but YOU want to continue the racism rant and hate that people like you cause, because it makes you feel better or some other stupid thing.

You don't know what the criminal knew, and you seem to only speculate that he was no danger to the victims, but you don't really know what he would have done, and you don't know that he would not have continued breaking into homes, and you don't know that he would not have escalated to other crimes as many B/E criminals do.

He wasn't unarmed, he had a crow-bar
He didn't hurt anyone in the house because he was shot while presenting a danger to the victims

You do know that "Cleansing the gene-pool" doesn't have to mean anything racial, right? I took it as removing another stupid person without regard to the rights of others, a violent nature type person.

Why don't you address your own racism?
#17256
Freedman wrote:
An intruder who was shot and killed after a confrontation with a Duluth woman in her shower was likely stalking her for days and may have other victims, Gwinnett police said.
Police: Woman Shot Intruder 9 Times In Self Defense School Counselor Shoots, Kills Home Intruder

The 53-year-old woman, who is also a veteran private school counselor, was alone at the time of the Wednesday morning attack. She lives on East Mount Tabor Circle in Duluth.
So this school employee is home "during work hours" and her minority lover (I mean random guy) joins her in the shower and she later shoots the minority 9 times and the police high five her???
Yes.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/police-w ... nse/nFB7g/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I mean, he only attacked her with a knife.
#17297
Freedman wrote:
911 tape: 'Shoot him again!' husband tells wife. The recording of a 911 call made in Georgia reveals a chilling scene in which a husband coaches his white wife to shoot a black man just for entering their house.
Notice how the word Black or anything about Race was never uttered or mentioned by the woman or husband, only by the racists commenting on the incident.

So, violent criminal breaks into a home, knowing he's risking his life, knowing that he, himself, places less value on his life then he does the property of others, gets killed inside the home, but before he can harm anyone - legal according to the law... Then the hate mongers, racists, like Freedman, come out of the wood to vilify the innocent people and say nothing about the violent criminal.
#17334
Then the hate mongers, racists, like Freedman, come out of the wood to vilify the innocent people and say nothing about the violent criminal.
The person in that house that used violence was the white woman, we will never know if her violence was criminal because no charges were filled, she wasn't even arrested. Black man dead, end of investigation.
#17337
Freedman wrote:
Then the hate mongers, racists, like Freedman, come out of the wood to vilify the innocent people and say nothing about the violent criminal.
The person in that house that used violence was the white woman, we will never know if her violence was criminal because no charges were filled, she wasn't even arrested. Black man dead, end of investigation.
How about you tell the ENTIRE TRUTH ABOUT THIS instead of being a racist?

"The intruder used a crowbar to bust into the house last Friday and at first intended to rob the suburban Atlanta home in Loganville but shifted his focus to hunting down Melinda Herman and her son and daughter, Walton County investigators told NBC station WXIA in Atlanta.

The family had fled through three locked doors, into a bathroom and then to an upstairs crawl space, but the intruder busted the doors open to stalk the family, police said."

So, the violent criminal , after busting through three doors and into the crawl space where they were tring to hide, was in the process of attacking the woman and her son and daughter when she was able to legally defend herself and them.

It seems the idea of racism is COMPLETELY IN YOUR LITTLE MIND.

Now you know the TRUTH of the incident.
#17338
Freedman, maybe you left this out because you're either stupid or just wanted to further your own hate and claim racism: "Slater has a lengthy criminal history with six arrests dating back to 2008. He was just released from jail in August after serving six months for simple battery and three counts of probation violation."
#17339
"Slater has a lengthy criminal history with six arrests dating back to 2008. He was just released from jail in August after serving six months for simple battery and three counts of probation violation."
So? He did his time. Once again he didn't use violence she did, there should have been a trial, no one can deny that.
#17340
Freedman wrote:
"Slater has a lengthy criminal history with six arrests dating back to 2008. He was just released from jail in August after serving six months for simple battery and three counts of probation violation."
So? He did his time. Once again he didn't use violence she did, there should have been a trial, no one can deny that.
How blind can you be?

How did you miss this part? "but shifted his focus to hunting down Melinda Herman and her son and daughter, Walton County investigators told NBC station WXIA in Atlanta."

His history shows an escalation at increasing violent tendency - and this last incident proved it, instead of just trying to rob them, he was actively hunting them in their own home.
#17343
Let me correct the OPENING POST, FACTALLY:

911 tape: 'Shoot him again!' husband tells wife. The recording of a 911 call made in Georgia reveals a chilling scene in which a increasingly violent criminal breaks into a home, starts hunting the innocent woman and her kids, through three doors and into a crawl space (doing all the woman and kids could do to avoid the violent criminal) and causing the innocent woman and children to be forced to live with the images of a violent criminal being shot by the mother in their own home to keep from being attacked after they did all they could to avoid the dangerous attacker that would not relent. While the terrified woman unloaded her handgun, while hiding in the crawl space as the violent attacker continued to try and reach them, even after being warned, the violent criminal actually fled the victims house and was taken to a local hospital - the local police say victim (the women) acted legally and they warned her that she might be traumatized by having to shoot another person in self-defense.

It was later shown that the violent criminal has an extensive record as well as a history of increased violence in his crimes.

That's the entire truth, the facts and nothing except the facts.

The only racism was on the part of Freedman as this factual information has been available for some time. Oh, and he was NOT shot 5 times in the head, she didn't even AIM at any specific part of his body according to the reports.
#17348
Good lord.

Leroy, Freedman = Justme. Put another way, Freedman and Justme are the same person.

He's been doing this for years. As usual, the main people he ensnares with his simpleminded trolling are conservatives.


But, by all means, please continue. It's somewhat entertaining to watch you guys continually fall for it.
#17373
Grog wrote:Good lord.

Leroy, Freedman = Justme. Put another way, Freedman and Justme are the same person.

He's been doing this for years. As usual, the main people he ensnares with his simpleminded trolling are conservatives.
Wow, it really shows his dishonesty, racism and hate mongering side well.
#17402
I think he meant, as a message to ME (Leroy,) that who dildo was, not that both were justme.
He had previously emplied you and Bilbo were the same person, now he's saying me and Freedman are the same person. I love Grog to pieces but he's trying to stir the pot.
#17404
RealJustme wrote:
I think he meant, as a message to ME (Leroy,) that who dildo was, not that both were justme.
He had previously emplied you and Bilbo were the same person, now he's saying me and Freedman are the same person. I love Grog to pieces but he's trying to stir the pot.
LOL, there is no way I could be as dumb as Bilbo, it's a loon, a complete idiot, not to mention a malignant liar. Heck, he can't even find data to prove his claims and when he does claim something, there are dozens of reputable sites/organizations that invalidate his claims.
#17418
You know you live in a country run by idiots when idiots like Justme and Leroy are allowed to proudly display their imbecility in a public forum.

"emplied?"

In the post that has you two giggling like escapees from "Deliverance," you might go back and notice the comma between Leroy and Justme. People who have passed 10th grade Composition know that in that usage, the comma signified a pause.

Try it again, maybe read it out loud to yourselves and each other.

"Leroy (pause), Freedman = Justme."

See how that works? I was addressing Leroy to inform him that Justme and Freedman are the same person.


Please continue with your hilarious hijinks. You guys are helping idiots everywhere feel less idiotic about themselves in comparison to you two.
#17420
Try it again, maybe read it out loud to yourselves and each other.

"Leroy (pause), Freedman = Justme."

See how that works? I was addressing Leroy to inform him that Justme and Freedman are the same person.


Please continue with your hilarious hijinks. You guys are helping idiots everywhere feel less idiotic about themselves in comparison to you two.
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