[VWSupport]

Suggestions have been made to bring the forums back to what they looked like before the issues in June. I would love advice, suggestions, and any improvements please!

[rockclimber]

Kiki:

The propics were larger before, perhaps 40 percent? 200x200 would be nice....

However each was an active link to a Profile page where the image was 800x800 and the person's individual profile information, quotes, likes, et cetera were located. The propics were on the left of the mime threads in a column to the extreme left side in what is now empty grey space. A far better visual arrangement I think.

The active link always opened in a new window or tab and one could open a number of profiles up all in new windows or tabs without overwriting the one previously opened. When we would have an evening of fast paced propic changing, one could click and hold each new image in its own tab and go back to the thread and refresh to see who had done what since the last refresh. Which led to an enourmous amount of fun and more importantly fed a lot of new traffic.

RC



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"Some say there's a woman to blame...there is...."

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Re: Pro pics

by Jbe » Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:01 pm

Yeah... what Rock and Winston said.

And while we're at it, before the crash there was a Feedback section for Private Shots, Freestyle and Nude in Public. It was a great section where we could post links to the contris as well as engage in coversation with some of the contributors as well as talk about the contris with each other. There was a relatively good following of regular viewers (COFF people) who hung out and chatted.... and encouraged new contributors.

But for whatever reason those sections were not brought back with all the other Forum sections and a lot of the "members" have been slowly drifting away from VW. It would be great to see those sections back... and although it looks like it's not gonna happen, it would be great to have the Forums back in the pre-crash format.
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Re: Pro pics

by Kiki » Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:29 pm

I think that is a great idea, and would be happy to help implement it. I have started a new topic regarding this, please add your input so I can properly create the changes and restore the forums!

With Love (and lust),
Kiki
Your VoyeurWebMistress

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Re: Pro pics

by rockclimber » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:52 pm

Yeah, What JBE said!

I was gonna bring that up with khalil but havent had the opportunity yet. But Yes, that was a huge bit of VW! Our Board traffic on the free side was large for two reasons.

First, the traffic often flowed to and from the boards to the contri. Suggestions, fan bases... Threads that continued past the initial contri contained links to some really good contri, all gathered and promoted free by board members. Our free boards served as a springboard to RC/HC/FB memeberships which improves the bottom line.

Secondly, and of greater importance, the sense of community in the free boards brought many of us to the level of comfort to post contri, and others to comment. With the exception, a notable one, of the political boards, the free forums were polite and positive places. Surprising in the wealth of topics and interesting tidbits of info. Iris's contri on mythology and the associated thread was a classic case in point. Iris is hot, horney and seriously naughty. She is also cultured and intelligent, funny too!

Yawl seriously want to walk away from that cool part of the site? Key word: Free.

Doesn't cost a thing to grow content like that, ask some of us to help do it.

Before I forget, Please tell us the Forum archives are NOT lost forever? That would seriously suck.

People spending hours browsing the threads is a huge part of what improved VW's numbers, as web witless as I am, I know we had a uniquely popular site without equal. I for one would love to help bring it back.

One thing that would help tomorrow would be to move the Forums listing on the home page ABOVE the fold where it can be easily seen.

[rockclimber]

PS Forum Archives went back at least as far as 2007. Threads would hold about 99 posts before the older would roll off and be lost. Periodically VW would archive all the threads from a certain point in time to an end point. Whatever was active got archived. The COFF thread rolled over every few days so much of that was lost. If you can find the archives you can see hat we had. I saved a few threads including the HTML code.

One of the things I always hated about the RC threads is they would roll off the page so fast you couldnt really keep up with what was going on. Improving that might be helpful though I haven't a suggestion I would want to make. I know the RC crowd loves it but most folks dont have that degree of dedication to the effort. It isn't my interest. But I did used to keep the site open most evenings I was home, peeking here and there as I worked. Mostly the VW, occaisonally Playground or RC or Wiki but mostly the Private Shots and Photography threads in the Forums.

RC

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[VWSupport]

Unfortunately, I do not think that the old forum archives will be available (and yes I agree that would seriously suck), however I will do some digging to see if it is at all possible. As far as anything you have saved feel free to email it to me. We can always adjust how quickly threads/posts "fall off," so that can be entirely up to the community here.

I will see if propics can be made larger in some way, I have been intensely busy these past two weeks, however I will find time to look into this further.

First things first I would like to change the forum categories back to what they used to be, while the exact format of the old forums is likely not possible, I will do what I can to make the content the same.

In order, how would you guys like to see the forums laid out?

[rockclimber]

I hear your getting huge new sign ups daily. Congrats!

As for order...
I would follow the listing that you have on the left hand side of the page in the columns. Private shots first followed by the next and so on.....

Above our other sites and below general.


Used to be two columns of headings and subheadings.

[FAQ]

The old BB was dying long before the drama. Limited pockets of activity.

If you split up the users into the same multiple forums, each will eventually die a slow death. There is one exception:

Look at the forum with the most active posting - political. Absolutely nothing to do with VW, and breeds malcontents that spread their hate to other forums. Create a separate BBS for them, and keep them away from the rest of the site. Perhaps a separate registration required for them to post there. I really recommend deleting it all together. Doubt you have the courage to pull that plug.

One BB for VW announcements, and keep people from littering other posts there. Might just be best to make that BB exclusive to admins for new posts. Allow replies by the masses, but no new threads.

One BB for help, troubleshooting, suggestions. Used to be the Newbie BB, but no one bothered to read the fine print, and they posted questions all over the place. Call it what it is.

Group all feedback BB into one. Make it one stop for all sections. Dividing up the feedbacks makes each section appear pathetic. No one cares to join a BBS that has one or two new posts a day. Encourage the storytellers to post there as their fantasy contri.

One BB for folks to get together. Spread news of erotic events or arrange meet-n-greets. Storytellers welcomed, too. Fact? Fiction? Does it matter?

Keep it very simple until the real numbers show that the community is large enough to split. Above all else, do not attempt the disaster of a social BB. Learn the history or be doomed to repeat it. At best you develop a clique that makes outsiders feel like outsiders. At worse, you develop a little safe spot for some to go and never venture outside that area. Either way, the BB dies and can drag VW with it.

[FAQ]

as to the look of the boards? You'll never please everyone.

Some want the old VW look. But those same people were the ones that hated the BB when Igor changed its look. They simply got used to it.

We had huge debates on whether it was best for black text on white, or light text on dark. The answer always turns out to be, whatever it was was preferred over whatever you think it should be. but if you change it and ignore the whining masses, they will get used to it and forget they had issues.

If you want to shut them up, give each the ability to set their own font colors and the background color. Then your default does not matter, but they will complain about having to set the colors and forget how they did it. Most never really look through all the options available to them.

Just pick something and leave it allow. You upset more people with change than rotten color schemes.

[Jbe]

In response to FAQ's comments... I agree that lumping all feedback sections into one is probably better. I don't think it was really necessary to have separate sections for Private Shots, Freestyle etc.

As to the look, sure I'd love to have it back the way it was pre-crash. It was clean, easy to navigate and had great features... at least in my humble opinion. Granted I haven't been around near as long as FAQ and his 11,000 posts or whatever he had before the crash... but I was around long enough to see that some sections of the Forums didn't do as well as others. I also saw that there was a lot of action on the Private Shots section and I saw that was a result of a few people that came together and over time formed a community.

Yes, I am talking about the COFF group... a group I am proud to be a part of (check it out on the Wiki). It started out as a few people but slowly built to a great group of people both men and women who had a common desire to have a little fun while enjoying appreciating the human form in all it's size and shapes. Did it come across as a clique? Maybe... but it was never intended to be that way. We were always encouraging others to join in on the thread conversations and the "virtual events" that were periodically held. There are some incredibly talented people that hung out there as evidenced by the creative propics... the themed propics changes... the "posters" created for holidays, the virtual events, birthdays of both contributors and members... and I do believe there was a "poster" or two that even made the Front Page courtesy of Thumper. If you didn't see any of them you sure missed some fun works of art. Thumps, you da man.

But it wasn't just that. I personally believe that the success of holiday themed contris was partially due to our encouragement and probably Berty in particular. He was our head cheerleader, after all. Becasue of that I saw the holiday themed contris increase over a couple of years. We all encouraged more participation from the "lurkers"... we would go on the comment sections of contris and flag inappropriate or rude comments which I'm sorry to say were way to numerous. More than once there were very popular contributors that wanted to quit because of the abuse they received in the comments section. Because of our encouragement they are still around.

I don't think the Forums were really dying as FAQ stated. But maybe he has seen them in busier days. All I know is that in the Feedback sections we had regular interaction with some of VW's biggest "stars". It was a joy and honor to be able to chat (as it were) with some of the most beautiful women in the world. Sure, there is the comment sections with every contri but there was something special about discussing our favorite photo with them or just saying "hi" to them and having them say "hi" back. I honestly believe that made a difference to some of them.

FAQ is right. You'll never please everybody. That is something we are all well aware of. Do I like the look of the Forums as they are? No. Would I get used to it? Possibly. However, I think it would be great to get the Feedback sections back. I've seen a lot of new faces since the crash and it would be great to be able to interact with them as well and maybe make some new friends... and get the old viewers back and have some great fun again.

[rockclimber]

Don't be a whiner...

The visual organization was superior to the present. I would disagree with John about the comments. I like seperate sections for each category.

Im surprised I never took a screen shot of it but from memory, there were two collumns.

Left

General
Newbie
Political
RC Explicit
VW Contri
Private shots
Freestyle
NIP/Voyeur
Below this point I am fuzzy
Playground
Themed Contests or Flashes perhaps?

Right Hand Column
Special Theme Ideas
Then a series of technical and social categories much like we have now
Voyeur tips and tricks
Technical
Photography
Erotic Events
Meet n Greet
Report A Bug
Contact Us (I think)
Contributors Lounge (alway the same password as long as I can rememebr even though it said it was new constantly)

COFF was and is a good group of people. Coff Threads Here are highly viewed BTW....

Also Political was the only thread area where the contributors IP Adress was posted right next to their Comment... easy to spoof, but it tended to keep the politicos from flaming each other, well,,, sorta.... Some of them were huge Contributors too (ie Big) nd to their credit they kept the vitriol in Politico It was hugely popular too

VW IS UNIQUE in that it gave a home to such an eclectic group of people who would in turn Post!! This really is a no brainer, Women don't post if they are not comfortable. Sure, the "only in it for money" ones will...

See...The FORUMS are ABOVE the fold!!!
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but not the ladies who want a flash, a thrill, a tease.... They wanna feel comfortable, All this peripheral to the buiness side stuff is the comfort food for the community and it's the community that feeds the site.

The traffic tells, but the forums were a great place to dip the toe in from personal experience.

John was right, the Fourth of July 2010 Front page image was a COFF image.

See...The FORUMS are ABOVE the fold!!!
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The visual arrangement before was a lot simpler but visually more appealing, the eye travels to the left first and the porpic there just looks better IMO...

BUT it was the link to a full sized image that was the most fun. Threads are so much more interesting with the propics, esp when the ladies start a changin them....

So Kiki whatchagonnado?


PS

Winston respectfully requests the return of the dog smiley.....

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[Jbe]

I really don't care one way or another whether the Feedback sections are separate or together. I do remember that some sections got very little action whereas the Private Shots was the busiest. So... whatever you decide...

Another nice feature was the tabs that took you to the bottom of the page of a thread and/or back to the top. Some of the threads got lengthy so it was nice to just hit the tab. The "Help" page was also a nice feature. There was a lot of info on how to change font sizes, colors, etc and how to post hyperlinks. I see some of that info is in place but honestly I haven't explored these Forums that much to know where everything is. Ya know... old dog new tricks. No offense to Winston. :roll:

I do agree with Rock and Winton in that the personal profile page with the full sized propic was great.

[rockclimber]

Nothing ever stays the same, but the Boards used to be vibrant and now they are not. Simple changes could be implimented immediately to improve the experience. Returning the appearance and layout of the boards is half way there, imo.

Hyperlinked propics would be a decidedly good step in the right direction. I think that is in the works though not a peep comes from Kiki.

The old content should be retrievable. I say this because the boards were up, running and fully functional AFTER igor left. The links to the main site were all jacked up and I believe that was why the boards were taken down a few days later.

I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is to work and retrieve some of what was lost.

But I am decidedly pleased Lace has graced us with her pics. Adding pics is a huge plus to the site and threads imo. Kudos for that.

Adding font selection would be nice here too, thats a hint Kiki....

Reposed here for Kiki.....

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[VWSupport]

I'm working on some changes...these two are done.
1: Avatars are moved to the left.
2: Avatars are now 175px x 175px max, 120px x 120px minimum.

Profile Pics:
I'm trying to work on Profile pics. Currently, I can make it so you can link to a picture and have it display in the profile, but I can't make it so you can upload it to our site. I'm trying to see if I can integrate a gallery into our profiles here.

Font Selection:
Font selection is something I can look into but I am leaning towards not implementing it as it could cause the boards to appear sloppy if multiple people have different fonts. Colors/size is one thing, but fonts are another...

Feedback sections:

Should we do multiple ones? ie: FreeStyle, Private Shots or have a catch all? What is a nice name we could use for it? "Feedback" doesn't seem sexy enough to me.

Profile Fields:

Please let me know your thoughts on what profile fields should be added to our profiles.

Keep suggestions coming, I'll do my best.

[rockclimber]

Awesome Kiki!

I clicked your profile pic and it took me straight to your page. That page would be where the old 800x800 propics used to be.

Fonts: Used to have a choice of 4-5 Times New Roman being my fav. I agree too many would be weird and visually distracting.

Gifs, used to not be able to use gif as a format for propics, something to consider perhaps?

I would vote for Feedback catagories to match the contri categories. Easier to work through, but John's point is valid, the Private Shots was where the most traffic was. But you could find a thread easier. I would still do seperate ones.

Sexy feed back....hmmm Snowballing comes to mind immediately..... smirk!

Seriously, feedback isn't particularly sexy, I agree How about Girl Talk, Contri Connections, Babes of VW, Photochat? I'm sure someone else will think of some far better category names, but I gree with your point, the Name is important, style counts!

[Jbe]

Well it seems we are making some progress towards getting the Feedback Sections back. I have mixed feelings about whether there should be one or separate. Some of the old sections got very little action... such as the Tit Flash and Voyeur Photos. I think it might be a matter of finding the right balance. It seems if you give people too many choices there can be a tendency to get overwhelmed and not even comment. But lumping them all together might get too crowded- so to speak.

Here's a thought as to grouping them together. Private Shots and Freestyle... Nude in Public, Voyeur Photos and Amateur Video... Tit Flash and Ass Flash. Or... go back to giving them all separate sections.

As far as names go, I'm at a loss right now. I also agree... "Feedback" isn't terribly sexy... but it does describe it pretty simply and there isn't a lot of doubt as to what the section is about. "Contri Feedback"? I dunno...

One of my concerns at this time is just getting the Feedback sections back up and running. There was a fair amount of action before the implosion and although some of us have managed to stay in contact with each other, there have been some that seem to have wandered away. The longer the feedback sections are gone, the harder it will be to re-build the "community". It was great to be able to have more in-depth conversations with the likes of Vienna, Gattina, Vanessab, Elise, Trinity, Bree, Iris, OhGirl, Ormi, Sheekri, Lisa Jane, Honora, Manda D... amongst others.

Anyway, that's my two cents worth.

[rockclimber]

Hey John!

Good to see ya!

Check out Laces thread too!

I sent her an invite to hang w Winston

How was xmas bro?

[Travis]

I'd really like to contribute suggestions however I don't know what the previous forum was like or why people don't like the present one. If I think up any ideas I'll be sure to post them. Happy New Year all!

[Jbe]

Travis, the previous forum looked quite different in appearance before the crash. To me it was much easier to navigate... but like I said before, it might just be a matter of old dogs and new tricks. When the Forum was brought back it had pretty much the same topics except for the Feedback Sections. Why those weren't brought back with everything else is still a mystery... at least to me.

The Feedback Sections were a place you could have more in-depth conversations and discussions with the contributors and other commenters rather than just posting a comment in the comment section of the contri. Over a period of a few years a "community" was built that came to be known as COFF- check out the Wiki for more info. We would encourage new contributors as well as ladies that have been posting... we would recognize special events, birthdays and holidays and were always welcome of new "members".

That's it in a nutshell...

Howdy Rock and Winston. Grumpster, nice to see ya... ya old crusty redneck! :lol:

[rockclimber]

RE the Pol threads....

I like it because it does two things.

First, it keeps them off the rest of the pages, which is nice. They get pretty viscious there and all seem to like that so I am all for it.

Secondly, it offers something extra to the site which keeps traffic up, way up. Those guys go 24/7 and cover every topic under the sun. It is fun to browse there on occaison too. Remember the Costa Cruise thread? That was interesting, a tragedy but oddly fascinating to watch the daily developements and pictures.

John you can add a propic of a decent size now btw....

Kiki, just a thought, but can you add an automatic resizer for the propics? It would increase participation I believe?

John, thanks for the Christmas wishes all is well here in FL btw. Go by and say hello to Lace will ya? She is Decidedly COFF material!

[rockclimber]

Odd, propics are back on the right again for me.

Oh I still have Superb on a second line too, not sure why though, just feedback for you.

Already mentioned elsewhere but auto resizing of propic uploads would help alot with participation I think. Or barring that, a short tutorial on how to resize and a link to a resizing webite or two would be a big aid to the VW novice?

Just thinking....

[VWSupport]

Rockclimber,

Can you clear cache? They are still to the left for me...
Did some modifications for page width as well as fixed some of the CSS to display properly across all browsers. Didn't realize that on FireFox the page was messed up! I've tested on most major browsers, so we should all be ok now. Just need everyone to clear their cache.

What do you mean specifically by superb being on a separate line?

Just programmed the mod for auto-resizing of avatars. It's currently enabled and tested. Let me know your experience!

Contri Connections have been added. Let me know your thoughts.

Keep the ideas coming, I'll do my best to get them all done.

[Jbe]

Kiki, thanks for your hard work on getting the feedback sections back... now called Contri Connections. I'm having problems getting an avatar posted... but it's likely just OE on my part. :lol: I'm definitely not the most technically savy person. I'll keep at it.

[cdl2]

In the contri section......any chance we could get a tit flash forum there too???

[Jbe]

Kiki, there used to be a link function where you could create and open a link to a contri in a separate window as well as the way it is set up now. Any chance of getting that back?

Also, it appears that when you create a link to a contri and do a preview on the post ... if you click the link to make sure it is going to the contri and do a "go back" everything is lost. Anything you can do about that?

[VWSupport]

Test to see if link opens in new window with code modification:

http://www.voyeurweb.com

Edit: Works, but it will ONLY work with NEW links added. This is not retroactive, so any new links you add will open in a new window, including the preview page.

Instant Tit Flash and Instant Ass Flash forums have been added.

[Jbe]

Kiki, it works! The links open in a separate window. Thanks!

[rockclimber]

A quick drive by, but how about Popular threads as a trending collumn in the top right under User Control Panel and Search?

And under it or above it, New Threads Maybe New and under that Top?

I keep seeing all this grey space and want to fll it!! This formating prob fits mobils better I expect though.

I notice the pics are on the right again? Or is it me? I'm less concerned about it though, the larger images have helped considerably. Now to link to full sized Propics and profiles!

Kiki.....Lookin good!
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[rockclimber]

Hey Kiki, can you fix this ass pic issue?

I also noticed the contri I think are going to archive a little sooner than before (diff topic but I didn't want to forget) The popular ones used to stay available for a lot longer.

I have no idea why this Ass shot is not vote or commentable. seems like it should continue to be. Can you add that to the list? I would imagine a poster would want her own stuff to be comment and vote able indef. After all she may have fans and by cutting it off VW inhibits fan base development. That, IMO, is a huge draw for our VW ladies! Fun for the scruffy guys like me as well!



Here is the one I was mentioning:

Unbelievably, this sexy backsided babe is at the bottom of the rankings! (Ichecked) But honestly she is stellar!

Check her out and go vote, lets see just how high we can pat her little bottom up near the top!

Here's Mary!

http://www.voyeurweb.com/flash/ass/view/304124/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Be sure to leave a comment, ask her to join in the fun and spank her on up the rankings!

Happy Ass New Years!


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[VWSupport]

RC -
I do love the idea of trending column, however that is a bit out of my coding skills so I need to wait for a tech guy on that. Please keep it on the list and in mind, but I've got a million coding projects for the tech guys already, so it might be awhile before they will get the chance.

Hmmm, my pics are still on the left (cache issue maybe on your browser?), are you still having that issue even after clearing?

And thanks!

Also, regarding the ass flash photo: I believe the commenting/voting is only open for 30 days for all photos on VoyeurWeb, then it closes to commenting. For ass/tit flash the idea is that it will in the future then get transferred to FunBags after a set amount of time.

[rockclimber]

I posted this in a new thread topic specific, PROFILE CHANGES FYI... I'll repost here.....

Kiki,

Here are a few suggestions for the PROFILES we've been discussing. Anyone with ideas comments, jump in!

1 Thumbnails linked to full sized Propics would be a stellar return. The matter of how is the question. Ideally one simple upload of an image that would be then: copied to two images, one resized to board limits of 175x175 pixels, the other larger, say 800x800 as before OR add a second link within IT to the original Image, full size? This is doable, I've seen it demonstrated, so feasability isn't an issue.

2 Personal quotes to be added to the profile, people seem to like that sort of thing. Perhaps a few generic "get to know you" questions and answers. An email if desired...

3 HERE IS THE FUN ONE, a place to insert full sized pictures and video clips (See Vannesa B's Thread) in a personal Gallery WITH a spot to comment on each image? This part is harder. It SHOULD be easy to add the image code since it is ALREADY in the threads, like this here:

[rockclimber]

Just had another thought come to mind, Google or Bing Translate widgets. I added them to my site for non English speakers. Yes you can highlight right click to translate BUT you would be surprised how few people know how or that they can.

Also, I seem to not be able to find the VW viewing adjustment settings. Can some one point me in the right direction?

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[mufti36]

Once upon a time Voyeurweb was the first site I went to, every day without fail, before heading over to RedClouds for the serious stuff, including the great Discussing Sexuality forum. When VW/RC died I thought it was a terrible loss. Now it's been resurrected, but I confess I now check it out maybe once a week. Sure the basic contris -- Private Shots, Freestyle, etc. -- are still good, but the overall experience just doesn't do it anymore. It's so ridiculously complicated, with too many options, too many forums, and who really cares about contest awards on the main page -- I know, it's all about marketing, but still, the whole site is far too cluttered.
I was also a little surprised today clicking on Instant Ass Flash. Not that I mind a nice pink or brown bottom, but what we're seeing seems to be stretching the VW rules way into RC territory. I guess I'm old fashioned enough to think that 'ass' meant backside, but it's clear it's been extended to underside too, wide open in the best RC tradition. We even get a nice erect penis. OK by me, if that's within the rules, but at least Igor kept the XXX stuff out of VW, in part because it's an open site, unlike members-only RC. Are we all OK with this?
It's impossible to navigate all the forums these days, but one reason many of them aren't getting a lot of traffic is the very fact that there are too many of them. Yes, VW needs the political board just to keep the nutters at bay for the rest of us perverts. But trying to make VW into another Facebook just doesn't work for me. Kiki is getting lots of input and I'm sure is working to please as many people as possible. My take: OK, we can't go back to the old VW entirely, but to make the new VW more user friendly, listen to the recurring theme -- it's far too busy, far too complicated. The solution? The guiding principle should be to simplify. Simplify. SIMPLIFY!

[rockclimber]

Give it time mufti,

A certain assh*** deleted the admin code for over fifteen million lines of code. Now that is a total dick thing to do any way you cut it and tells me just loads about his character. If I had my way, I'd hunt his skinny ass down and chase him all the way back to Iran....maybe throw a shoe at him....

The old boards used a software that is NOT supported anymore and honestly, I can't find a single site using any version of it anywhere; I looked....a lot.

This isn't bad, yeah it's busy but spend a little time at it and you'll get the hang of what is where. Activity on threads? Go post. I'll follow you and see what your activity level is.

Oh, BTW You JOINED TODAY, so whats the big deal? I would think a mufti" would be a tad more "scholarly" don't you?



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