Open Discussions about the VoyeurWeb.com site
#1458
I am in the preliminary stages of planning the largest ever yet Voyeurweb Party! We want it to be out of this world with live streaming on VW website simultaneously for Voyeurwebbers who cannot be there physically at the party. It is a lot of work and a lot of planning. I need to choose a group of you who will serve as the Steering Committee for this Project. And we urgently need to decide when and where it will be.

The last VW party was in 2001 in Rios, Las Vegas. I think another party is way overdue.
I want all of your feedback and if you want, send me private messages about what you want and don't want to see at this largest ever yet Voyeurweb Party!

I figured at a minimum for those of you who have been sending me all these emails about showing tits-- this could be one place I would show them and you could see that I am not a man, not anywhere near 70 years old and really do have volumptous and perky tits!

And you would meet the VW owner!! And we would have one hell of a fucking amazing time! After all the sudden and uncalled interruption to our lives, I thought we could have some real fun for change!

Let me know what you guys think!
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By rugrollers
#1465
This is like throwing a victory party before the game is over.

Please get the site back up first, demonstrate your responsiveness to what people have suggested since you called for input (even if you can't do much of it right away), give us a story about what happened that answers at least the main charges made by Igor, and just .... get to know us!

If you have enough money to throw a giant party (which 99% of us won't be able to attend, having jobs and children and such, and maybe even limited means), please spend it on rebuilding the site and regaining our trust!
By bearcella
#1467
rugrollers wrote:This is like throwing a victory party before the game is over.

Please get the site back up first, demonstrate your responsiveness to what people have suggested since you called for input (even if you can't do much of it right away), give us a story about what happened that answers at least the main charges made by Igor, and just .... get to know us!

If you have enough money to throw a giant party (which 99% of us won't be able to attend, having jobs and children and such, and maybe even limited means), please spend it on rebuilding the site and regaining our trust!

Bingo!!
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By Jammer
#1468
A big VW party sounds like an awesome idea. But the timing of your announcement is very poorly thought out. Is the the exciting news that was promised on your "We are working to get the site rebuilt" page that you spoke of earlier? If it is, then you've lost any the remaining smidgeon confidence that I still had in you and your site. At a time when you are claiming to be working to restore the service, you've either been out planning a party, or planning a way to misdirect the focus of the loyal members that you have left. Fine, the party is a good idea...but shelve any discussion of it until the site is back functioning. Unless that happens, I don't think you'll have much support for a party. It's more likely that your remaining users will be talking about a wake. I'm sorry, but you are just over a day short of the promised 4 - 7 days to be back in operation...and this is not the kind of announcement that will garner any belief that you will be able to live up to that commitment. All we want is to see the site back in operation. If you are unable to do that, then please say so. If you can't give us a realistic time frame for having things back together by now...then there is no reason we should cling to the hope of ever seeing VW as a function site again. Please, no more promises...let your actions do your talking for you.
By Crazyd
#1473
Kath, this is one tough crowd. Even when you offer to show your tits they still grumble. smh But fear not! I, Crazyd, am willing to step up to the plate and view your boobies.
By oberon3
#1474
rugrollers wrote:This is like throwing a victory party before the game is over.

Please get the site back up first, demonstrate your responsiveness to what people have suggested since you called for input (even if you can't do much of it right away), give us a story about what happened that answers at least the main charges made by Igor, and just .... get to know us!

If you have enough money to throw a giant party (which 99% of us won't be able to attend, having jobs and children and such, and maybe even limited means), please spend it on rebuilding the site and regaining our trust!

Bingo. Fix what's broken first.
#1479
Jammer wrote:A big VW party sounds like an awesome idea. But the timing of your announcement is very poorly thought out. Is the the exciting news that was promised on your "We are working to get the site rebuilt" page that you spoke of earlier? If it is, then you've lost any the remaining smidgeon confidence that I still had in you and your site. At a time when you are claiming to be working to restore the service, you've either been out planning a party, or planning a way to misdirect the focus of the loyal members that you have left. Fine, the party is a good idea...but shelve any discussion of it until the site is back functioning. Unless that happens, I don't think you'll have much support for a party. It's more likely that your remaining users will be talking about a wake. I'm sorry, but you are just over a day short of the promised 4 - 7 days to be back in operation...and this is not the kind of announcement that will garner any belief that you will be able to live up to that commitment. All we want is to see the site back in operation. If you are unable to do that, then please say so. If you can't give us a realistic time frame for having things back together by now...then there is no reason we should cling to the hope of ever seeing VW as a function site again. Please, no more promises...let your actions do your talking for you.

I am PR Director. I do not work on the technical site. So, what are you suggesting- should I go and work with the technical people and shut up about getting the spirit of our community. The technical guys are doing a lot and the site will be up. VW is a massive site and for images to look right, for everything to run smoothly, it takes some time. It does not mean that I have to sit around and wait until that is done and then start planning The Largest Ever Yet VoyeurWeb Party. This should tell you that my information is clearly that VW is near to returning.

Also, it takes months and months to plan a party. What is wrong with planning for the party now?
#1481
rugrollers wrote:This is like throwing a victory party before the game is over.

Please get the site back up first, demonstrate your responsiveness to what people have suggested since you called for input (even if you can't do much of it right away), give us a story about what happened that answers at least the main charges made by Igor, and just .... get to know us!

If you have enough money to throw a giant party (which 99% of us won't be able to attend, having jobs and children and such, and maybe even limited means), please spend it on rebuilding the site and regaining our trust!
Throwing the Largest Ever Yet Voyeurweb Party takes months and months of planning. This is not a Victory Party either--- just the largest amateur party-
#1482
bigohhhh wrote:How can you stream a party on a defunct web site?
What?????? Takes months and months to plan a party. And there is no defunct web site. It is under maintenance and will return shortly. Of course we will be able to stream a party on VW?
#1483
Crazyd wrote:Kath, this is one tough crowd. Even when you offer to show your tits they still grumble. smh But fear not! I, Crazyd, am willing to step up to the plate and view your boobies.

Make sure that you make yourself visible to me then when we hold this Largest Ever Yet VoyeurWeb Party

By the way, the real Voyeurwebbers are not tough just the outsiders are!
By MDP
#1492
Party? How about putting up the website ? This must be run by Liberals....typical ignore the important part serving the customers and promise fun and excitement as a answer to the issue.

Like Obama ignore the 15% unemployed and address supporting Gay Marriage thinking that will get his sorry ass re elected. Yes it is 15% not 8. So now you got my point.
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By rugrollers
#1493
VWPublicRelations wrote:By the way, the real Voyeurwebbers are not tough just the outsiders are!
So far you've just disappointed me. Now you've actually pissed me off. Which is hard to do.

I have been doing my best to offer you reasoned, helpful advice, with no evidence that you've heard a word I've said.

By what standard am I an outsider and you are not, since you evidently don't know that we have posted some 30-40 times on HomeClips and have a big loyal following and won the last 1st prize there before the site went down?! What the hell do you know about who is a "real" Voyeurwebber and who is not?

Feel free to apologize. A little humility will do you a world of good right now.
#1496
MDP wrote:Party? How about putting up the website ? This must be run by Liberals....typical ignore the important part serving the customers and promise fun and excitement as a answer to the issue.

Like Obama ignore the 15% unemployed and address supporting Gay Marriage thinking that will get his sorry ass re elected. Yes it is 15% not 8. So now you got my point.
No, I do not get your point. I am not the technical person working on the website. What?? So I should just not talk about a party that needs at least 6 months of planning ahead of time-- that is absurd--- I am PR director-- of course I should be planning for events for the Community. Nothing like that has happened for over 11 years!!! And technical guys should be working on the website as they are round the clock. You talk like I should just stop everything on my end until the site comes up-- the site is coming back up very soon-- that I guarantee you!!
#1498
rugrollers wrote:
VWPublicRelations wrote:By the way, the real Voyeurwebbers are not tough just the outsiders are!
So far you've just disappointed me. Now you've actually pissed me off. Which is hard to do.

I have been doing my best to offer you reasoned, helpful advice, with no evidence that you've heard a word I've said.

By what standard am I an outsider and you are not, since you evidently don't know that we have posted some 30-40 times on HomeClips and have a big loyal following and won the last 1st prize there before the site went down?! What the hell do you know about who is a "real" Voyeurwebber and who is not?

Feel free to apologize. A little humility will do you a world of good right now.

Chill-- I do not know who is an outsider but certainly some posts seem like they are coming from an outside camp. That was a general comment to all those posts that seem to be from the outside. I do not recall stating "Hey rugrollers- you are an outsider"

By the way, why don't you post some of those 30-40 Homeclips -- here on this BB? You must have some static pictures!
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By Jammer
#1501
VWPublicRelations wrote:
Jammer wrote:A big VW party sounds like an awesome idea. But the timing of your announcement is very poorly thought out. Is the the exciting news that was promised on your "We are working to get the site rebuilt" page that you spoke of earlier? If it is, then you've lost any the remaining smidgeon confidence that I still had in you and your site. At a time when you are claiming to be working to restore the service, you've either been out planning a party, or planning a way to misdirect the focus of the loyal members that you have left. Fine, the party is a good idea...but shelve any discussion of it until the site is back functioning. Unless that happens, I don't think you'll have much support for a party. It's more likely that your remaining users will be talking about a wake. I'm sorry, but you are just over a day short of the promised 4 - 7 days to be back in operation...and this is not the kind of announcement that will garner any belief that you will be able to live up to that commitment. All we want is to see the site back in operation. If you are unable to do that, then please say so. If you can't give us a realistic time frame for having things back together by now...then there is no reason we should cling to the hope of ever seeing VW as a function site again. Please, no more promises...let your actions do your talking for you.

I am PR Director. I do not work on the technical site. So, what are you suggesting- should I go and work with the technical people and shut up about getting the spirit of our community. The technical guys are doing a lot and the site will be up. VW is a massive site and for images to look right, for everything to run smoothly, it takes some time. It does not mean that I have to sit around and wait until that is done and then start planning The Largest Ever Yet VoyeurWeb Party. This should tell you that my information is clearly that VW is near to returning.

Also, it takes months and months to plan a party. What is wrong with planning for the party now?
There is nothing wrong with planning a party, if that's the best use of your time. But surely as PR Director, you must have known how this was going to look to the people waiting for word on the site's return. Posting on your 'home page' to watch for exciting news to come later today in the midst of the confusion, suspicion and concern that has surrounded VW for the past week would be like the cruise director, on the Titanic asking people an hour after hitting the iceberg what they'd like for dinner the following night. If the site is so close to being up and running, why not wait until that happens before announcing this. A few days postponement in the announcement that you are thinking of planning a party would not matter one little bit. On the other hand, a timely announcement on when we can expect the site to be operating again would have worked wonders to re-establishing your credibility as well as the credibility of VW and it's management. And it would also go a long way in "getting the spirit of our community (back)".

By the way, if your comment about it being the outsiders that are tough was directed at me, then I think you are mistaken. I'll admit that I've never been a member of RC or HomeClips, but I think that most regular users of the tit flash or the playground would not consider me an outsider.
By wh0pper
#1504
Hello K!
I'd like to see your tits, and I'm not that far from Vegas but, not before the site gets back up. If you try to show them to me sooner I will avert my eyes!
~A
By sbandbb
#1510
Katherine,
A party where pretty women show their boobs is always a good idea, and you're right; it's probably overdue anyway.
Even if we can't make it, we'd enjoy seeing the video and/or pics, and the chance to meet the real owner.
I'd appreciate a live chat session where the owner could take questions and interact with those of us remote to the party too... plus we don;t want to miss your flashing session!

Maybe you could get a hall pass and make a few trips by coordinating regional events instead of one monster party in Vegas? I'm picturing a sort of Girls Gone Wild style event with a tour bus visiting 8 - 10 sites this Fall. A couple down south, a couple in the northeast, a midwest event another in the plains etc... Many of these areas were organizing meet-n-greet parties anyway.
Just an idea.
Mr B
By Sorrell
#1511
This is a great idea I Love the proactive actions during a dreary time. A party would be a amazing, just letting the good times roll. A end of Summer bash in the south would be wonderful. There are so many beautiful low key places in the south east; rather it be on a sandy beach, warm lake or in a large empty field. Nonetheless thank you and I am willing to help.
By runner
#1513
Katherine,
A party is a great idea and you don't need anyone's permission to throw one. Just do it and call upon me for any steering help that you might need.
Some people are like errant canines...they'll piss on anything.
Cheers to you and the staff for your efforts, both with the site restoration and planning a get-together.
#1527
rugrollers wrote:This is like throwing a victory party before the game is over.

Please get the site back up first, demonstrate your responsiveness to what people have suggested since you called for input (even if you can't do much of it right away), give us a story about what happened that answers at least the main charges made by Igor, and just .... get to know us!

If you have enough money to throw a giant party (which 99% of us won't be able to attend, having jobs and children and such, and maybe even limited means), please spend it on rebuilding the site and regaining our trust!

I agree with rug. The timing shows this event is just to distract us. Plain and simple. By the way, before your post is posted it has to be read and approved by the moderator. If you are pissed and frustrated you really cannot vent it out here. They are in damage control now. poor taste of action....
#1529
VWPublicRelations wrote:
Jammer wrote:A big VW party sounds like an awesome idea. But the timing of your announcement is very poorly thought out. Is the the exciting news that was promised on your "We are working to get the site rebuilt" page that you spoke of earlier? If it is, then you've lost any the remaining smidgeon confidence that I still had in you and your site. At a time when you are claiming to be working to restore the service, you've either been out planning a party, or planning a way to misdirect the focus of the loyal members that you have left. Fine, the party is a good idea...but shelve any discussion of it until the site is back functioning. Unless that happens, I don't think you'll have much support for a party. It's more likely that your remaining users will be talking about a wake. I'm sorry, but you are just over a day short of the promised 4 - 7 days to be back in operation...and this is not the kind of announcement that will garner any belief that you will be able to live up to that commitment. All we want is to see the site back in operation. If you are unable to do that, then please say so. If you can't give us a realistic time frame for having things back together by now...then there is no reason we should cling to the hope of ever seeing VW as a function site again. Please, no more promises...let your actions do your talking for you.

I am PR Director. I do not work on the technical site. So, what are you suggesting- should I go and work with the technical people and shut up about getting the spirit of our community. The technical guys are doing a lot and the site will be up. VW is a massive site and for images to look right, for everything to run smoothly, it takes some time. It does not mean that I have to sit around and wait until that is done and then start planning The Largest Ever Yet VoyeurWeb Party. This should tell you that my information is clearly that VW is near to returning.

Also, it takes months and months to plan a party. What is wrong with planning for the party now?

Kathy,

There is nothing wrong about planning a party. What we are saying is the timing is highly suspicious because of what voyeurweb is going thru right now with Igor. Many of us interpret the party at this time as a way to distract us from the real issue here.

As what you have said the last voveurweb party was 2001 and why have a party now and not earlier ? If we go through with this party when would be the next time ? 11 years from now or when there will be problems again ?

It is the perception that counts. Telling us to party at this time when you have this fight with igor and not having the party before (what were you doing the last 11 years ? counting our money but not planning for the party until now ? ) now. Is an insult to us. We are educated people also.
#1532
VWPublicRelations wrote:
Jammer wrote:A big VW party sounds like an awesome idea. But the timing of your announcement is very poorly thought out. Is the the exciting news that was promised on your "We are working to get the site rebuilt" page that you spoke of earlier? If it is, then you've lost any the remaining smidgeon confidence that I still had in you and your site. At a time when you are claiming to be working to restore the service, you've either been out planning a party, or planning a way to misdirect the focus of the loyal members that you have left. Fine, the party is a good idea...but shelve any discussion of it until the site is back functioning. Unless that happens, I don't think you'll have much support for a party. It's more likely that your remaining users will be talking about a wake. I'm sorry, but you are just over a day short of the promised 4 - 7 days to be back in operation...and this is not the kind of announcement that will garner any belief that you will be able to live up to that commitment. All we want is to see the site back in operation. If you are unable to do that, then please say so. If you can't give us a realistic time frame for having things back together by now...then there is no reason we should cling to the hope of ever seeing VW as a function site again. Please, no more promises...let your actions do your talking for you.

I am PR Director. I do not work on the technical site. So, what are you suggesting- should I go and work with the technical people and shut up about getting the spirit of our community. The technical guys are doing a lot and the site will be up. VW is a massive site and for images to look right, for everything to run smoothly, it takes some time. It does not mean that I have to sit around and wait until that is done and then start planning The Largest Ever Yet VoyeurWeb Party. This should tell you that my information is clearly that VW is near to returning.

Also, it takes months and months to plan a party. What is wrong with planning for the party now?

So you mean to say you are rebuilding the voyeurweb web site ? You just wrote the "technical guys are doing a lot and the site will be up. VW is a massive site and for image to look right, for everything to run smoothly, it takes some time."

Fighting a legal battle with Igor while rebuilding the voyeurweb web site ? You posted last few days that this site will be up and running 4 - 7 days. Is it 7 days yet ? I doubt it if you could be back in 4 - 7 days. You credibility is at stake here.

This is deeper than what I thought. And we need to suffer the consequences for this ?
By Dude
#1543
I think it should have much more priority for the management to

1. pay prizes and unpaid MFFers immediately
2. answering the emails
3. answering concrete and eligible questions here on the board

instead this "give them bread and games that they shut up" stuff

so:

1. when people get paid?
2. when I get a response on my multiple emails & requests reg my overdue MFF payout?
3. when you think site will be back online?

ANSWERS PLEASE, NOW
By CLOUZEAU
#1548
:lol: :D
Looks like you're schedule is upside down Katherine.

First you put the site back the site on line

THEN you celebrate your rebirth by throwing a party...

The way you put it, it looks like a funeral party :o
By augustwest
#1549
Everyone is going to have priorities ordered differently...just as we enjoy different content in the pics. Here are mine:

1. let the techs focus on getting the site back up...phpbb is fine for now, certainly better than nothing.
2. start a thread where you can answer frequently asked questions (novel, eh?) and use that to answer 98% of the email.
3. post a few pics of Katherine!
4. it seems that you can't pay the prizes until the forensic work is complete...so save this until you can resurrect the vote tallies, etc.
5. VW pays for the MFF's? I hope that the compensation is related to the number of views.
6. Start a poll so we can vote on which questions are "eligible."
By varisty
#1556
Hi Folks,

I don't post much, I'm more of a lurker. I feel compelled to say that after reading Katherine Lucas' many posts that I think she is actually a composite of several people. If you read her statements carefully her grammar and syntax changes from time-to-time. This is not a usual occurence, how people structure their sentences is generally a constant. Sometimes her posts are as fluid as a native English speaker, other times they more resemble someone for whom English is a second language.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, I'm just making an observation on something that I have been trained to observe. Have a great day everybody.

Larry
By Rambz
#1557
Everyday that I check and the site is down, is a pity.
Maybe you could just upload a pic of your tits here. Something to keep the crowd busy, while the tech guys are working around the clock to get things back to normal.
By bear92
#1564
Katherine,

keep planning your party. I think it is a fine idea as I wouldn't know the first thing about programming a website either. I doubt that I would be able to attend unless it is in my area, but I would watch it. Or look at the pics afterward.

Mr. Cougarprey
By wblnudes
#1577
Katherine, seriously kid, don't get into a pissing match with people about what you should or shouldn't do. PR is about responding to the needs and demands from customers in a way that retains loyalty to drive future business.

Good ideas do not make good decisions. The party may be a good idea, but it's a terrible decision to throw an idea out there, and ask people what they think when most of them are concerned about getting back to basics. Think before you act. Think of your customers' priorities, and act accordingly.

wblnudes - Mr_wblnudes2, back in the old days of RC Chat.
By bk383
#1581
If Planing a party is the important news you had to report, then you have missed the boat.
Right now the only good news is, that the site will be up and running, today.

If you want to plan a party, go ahead, but the number one item should be getting the site up and running, no more, no less.

Give us the current statis of the site, that is what we all want to know. Get it up and running, and then you will have all the time in the world to plan a party.

my 2 cents
By supa
#1599
Two thumbs up for wbinudes post.........

A company is not going to win over any disgruntled customers or attract any new ones if it is perceived that all they are doing is making excuses. It also does not look very good (i.e. professional) for the PR Director to be in a pissing match w/customers.

Although I don't necessarily agree with what some have posted, or in the manner in which they have posted, I can empathize with their feelings. As a company, VW should also empathize with these feelings, and give a more tempered response no matter how off base it may seem.

Just .02 from an "outside" paying, contributing RC member.

Cheers........
By fluffy13
#1604
I really hope the site does come back up. I think I first viewed voyeur web shortly after it opened. I was very impressed with the site and joined red ***** when it became available. I have enjoyed it for many years. I sure hope you are being honest and I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that you will. Good luck to each of you. I will be just hanging out in the background waiting and wishing for your sucess.
By dennis
#1609
Having put together a VW get together or two I understand what it takes to gather a group of VW'ers in one place for one day month's in advance, it's not easy.

I think you're on the right track and think Vegas is the ideal location because of the tolerance the city shows.

However not much of a fan of the Rio, but would recommend either the Palms or Wynn/Encore. They both have great pools and the Playboy suite at the Palms would enable us to be private and unencumbering of other guests.

Those of us that have a life beyond VW are possibly more tolerant of interruptions like this as life is not always well lit neighbors house that you can see into.
By mole
#1615
Wat up, bitches? :D Fuck the bullshit, throw them some crumbs, gala party. Let's do up a going away party bash for Igor. That would be the righteous thing to do. Even a puny ex employee deserves some love.

Peace out motherfuckers!
By Heaggles
#1639
Come on people be nice to her, she is just trying to give us some good news. At least she is telling us something, remember most PR people just say Nothing when something goes wrong.
By jarhead68
#1650
Katherine,

I, for one am all for a VW party. What you are getting here in criticism are frustrated Rc'ers who haven't seen any of their favorite lady's boobs on here in about a week. So to soothe these horny Rc'ers, I suggest in your next reply that you add a pic of yourself topless diligently working on getting RC up and running! :D
By LenBet
#1652
Don't you think they can do both?

Maybe there are several people working on the site?

One or two setting up a party.

Someone is out getting lunch.

Another person is in the bathroom.

A couple people are standing around the water cooler.

Somewhere someone is playing solitaire on their computer.
By tripwire2
#1657
I'm all for a party! I've meant to attend one for years and now I can... so lets do it!
When and where? Vegas? works for me... but having been there many time please !! make it in the late fall or winter!!!

Kate I've no idea who you are but if I can help I'm willing even if you don't show your tits...

This site will get back when it gets back, whining and bitching won't move it faster.

Red Rug Rollers yawl are my Fav contributors and I hope yawl will come to the party and same for Amy !! and since I'm in Texas I'd like to meet that STCS or did they move? ETCS?

Regardless... lets party !!...

Talk to me Kate

Trip!

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