[overload69]

OK, "Katherine," (if that's really your name) since you won't email me back at the email address you requested that I send to you (it's not my real name, trust me I'm not that stupid), here's a real simple honest question no one has asked yet:

If Igor stole all the login names and passwords (I had to re-register just to post), just how do you propose to contact us to let us choose new logins and passwords? Our credit card info contains our real names and billing addresses, are you going to snail mail me? Is someone at your org going to hit up online phone sites and try to look up thousands of home phone numbers all over the world? Is one of your IT people going to backtrack every membership to an IP address? Without the login info, how can you possibly contact anyone? You asked a member how much time was left on his membership... you don't KNOW???? You can't find out without asking him? You folks haven't retrieved any credit card info yet to give us back our paid memberships? Just when were you planning on doing that? And just how do you propose to make this work? I think you owe everyone an answer.

Here's another simple, honest question: If you post a picture of your tits at some point, how do we know they're REALLY YOURS? Even if you show a face in the pic, how do we know it's YOU? JPEG click copy. How easy. For all we know, you're a 70-year-old guy sitting by the pool in Tampa laughing at all of us. And please don't post one of those snide replies you seem to like so much (not very professional, I've had years of management training, and you must be one of the new breed of managers). You'd actually get "fired" for telling your management that all these disgruntled members want to see your tits? That's laughable. It's a PORN site. They're PORN merchants. What could be more natural? BTW, perky tits are usually small, voluptuous are big and have trouble being perky for very long if ever (one word: gravity).

Finally, if you know IGOR Is posting to this BB as you've stated, WHY HAVEN'T YOU BLOCKED HIM? You've threatened to remove a self-described VW member without a qualm. Curiouser and curiouser. My crap detector is still sending alarms, and you've done nothing in 4 days to reassure me in any way. And Jedilady, you're way too trusting of faceless overseas businessmen who run porn sites.

[rezzi]

Where did the tit posting thing come from?? I guess I missed something.

[VWPublicRelations]

OK, "Katherine," (if that's really your name) since you won't email me back at the email address you requested that I send to you (it's not my real name, trust me I'm not that stupid), here's a real simple honest question no one has asked yet:

If Igor stole all the login names and passwords (I had to re-register just to post), just how do you propose to contact us to let us choose new logins and passwords? Our credit card info contains our real names and billing addresses, are you going to snail mail me? Is someone at your org going to hit up online phone sites and try to look up thousands of home phone numbers all over the world? Is one of your IT people going to backtrack every membership to an IP address? Without the login info, how can you possibly contact anyone? You asked a member how much time was left on his membership... you don't KNOW???? You can't find out without asking him? You folks haven't retrieved any credit card info yet to give us back our paid memberships? Just when were you planning on doing that? And just how do you propose to make this work? I think you owe everyone an answer.

Here's another simple, honest question: If you post a picture of your tits at some point, how do we know they're REALLY YOURS? Even if you show a face in the pic, how do we know it's YOU? JPEG click copy. How easy. For all we know, you're a 70-year-old guy sitting by the pool in Tampa laughing at all of us. And please don't post one of those snide replies you seem to like so much (not very professional, I've had years of management training, and you must be one of the new breed of managers). You'd actually get "fired" for telling your management that all these disgruntled members want to see your tits? That's laughable. It's a PORN site. They're PORN merchants. What could be more natural? BTW, perky tits are usually small, voluptuous are big and have trouble being perky for very long if ever (one word: gravity).

Finally, if you know IGOR Is posting to this BB as you've stated, WHY HAVEN'T YOU BLOCKED HIM? You've threatened to remove a self-described VW member without a qualm. Curiouser and curiouser. My crap detector is still sending alarms, and you've done nothing in 4 days to reassure me in any way. And Jedilady, you're way too trusting of faceless overseas businessmen who run porn sites.

Curious why you think that I would be sitting by the pool in Tampa. Who said anything about Tampa. Sounds like another Igor agent here. But for whatever it is worth, I am not a man and I am not 70 years old. And my tits are voluptous and perky. And if you are a true Voyeurwebber, I will perhaps show them to you if you join us in the largest Voyeurweb party that we are planning. Send me your real info, like email, address and phone number so I can send an invitation.

And if you are a real Voyeurwebber, you will get a message to get a new username and password which will then allow you to sign on. Why are so curious about the credit card cancelation when we have been telling you that we will be back. Like I said, you sound more and more like Igor agent.

[rezzi]

Curious why you think that I would be sitting by the pool in Tampa. Who said anything about Tampa. Sounds like another Igor agent here. But for whatever it is worth, I am not a man and I am not 70 years old. And my tits are voluptous and perky. And if you are a true Voyeurwebber, I will perhaps show them to you if you join us in the largest Voyeurweb party that we are planning.

You are a Director of Public Relations for a corporation and you are talking about showing you tits at a party??? Seriously, I hope people aren't that stupid to believe you!!

[overload69]

:lol: Wow, finally pushed enough buttons to get a response. Well, that's interesting, ""Katherine". You think I'm an Igor agent? You're so far from the truth it's sad. Actually, I think YOU'RE Igor. You're using a standard public speaking trick called misdirection here - ignoring the questions asked and throwing mud back without including any information. You don't talk like a woman executive (I've worked with dozens of them), and you certainly don't talk like anyone who has had any management training at all by insulting your customers. (I've had years of it, compliments of Fortune 500 companies like ITT and Pitney Bowes). And I hope everyone here notices you didn't answer my question as to how you intend to verify the remainder of my membership at Homeclips (as I said in another post, it should be about 44 days or so). So farm no one has my actual name and address, not even whoever your credit card biller is. Since your organization is the one who screwed up, not me, it seems to me it should be up to you to figure out how to honor the rest of my membership - it was paid for with a one-time use debit card. I'm not stupid enough to give any porn site a personal credit card number for exactly the reason we're all dealing with here. Why is it MY responsibility to send you my actual name and address? You screwed up, not me, I'm the one who has been harmed here. And you folks are just as much to blame as "Igor" for this mess (if in fact you're not really "Igor"). You're not "innocent" as you'd like us to believe, and as you keep telling us. Face it, you all screwed up. So....

1) I am not Igor, nor an agent of Igor. I haven't visited the VC site, have no intention of ever visiting it. If you don't believe me, check with "Igor" and ask him if overload69 ever took him up on his offer to transfer membership (that was my login with Homeclips, and it's my login now). All I want is my subscription to Homeclips back, and I've heard nothing positive in that regard at all, just a bunch of bullshit and empty promises.

2) I live in Charlottesville, Virginia, not Germany or wherever else "Igor" lives. Your company has a presence in Florida according to sunbiz, I'm assuming you're there as well. "Igor" supposedly has a house in Tampa according to the German article here on the BB, must be a reason why he picked Tampa. I have worked as a graphic designer, computer phototypesetter, video producer, advertising copywriter, and freelance web content copywriter for over 40 years, so I think I know a bit about the publishing business, online or otherwise. I have never been a webmaster like "Igor," but I have worked hand in hand with them at companies like the electronics retailer headquartered in my home town. Websites are designed using software like BBedit to facilitate authoring and editing. The coding is very similar to the coding that was once used by phototypesetters in the 70s and 80s - for example, if you want to bold something, you would enter a bold command, then copy and paste the text, then enter a bold command cancel - it's that easy. Members please take note: Websites are NOT created by computer programmers or IT Departments using C+ or Unix, or anything like that. They are built using templates for repetitive tasks (just like YOUR sites). Templates are ridiculously simple to update, it's essentially copy and paste. I could easily build a daily update to your standard Homeclips contri page in less than half an hour, videos and all, using BBedit. I did it thousands of times as a copywriter at the electronics retailer mentioned above. So the amount of time you're taking to get the site back up is VERY suspicious. That's why my crap detector is still going off, and why I'm taking you to task on this.

3) Your story keeps changing. Originally you said that "Igor" took the sites down, then we hear that you folks took them down to ostensibly prevent "Igor" from "stealing more photos." First we hear "Igor" stole the databases, then he didn't, just the logins and passwords (which you all were stupid enough not to backup in a secure location, supposedly). So are we to assume that "Igor" was dumb enough, knowing that he was planning this, not to have kept a copy on his hard drive of every video ever submitted to the Voyeurweb? Really? Once again my crap detector tells me this makes no sense at all.

4) If your tits are really voluptuous and perky, enjoy them while you can. Gravity will take care of the perkiness before you know it. I still don't believe for one minute you'd get fired for telling your porn merchant bosses that the members are asking you to show yours. If they're like most guys, they'd only want to see them as well. Personally, I prefer small tits, so yours don't really interest me. The prettiest tits I've ever seen belong to amber lee and motel69star (yes i've been around Homeclips that long). Do you even know who they are? Oh, and honorable mention to Kitty Loves Cock and her girlfriend, two of the only bright stars in a REALLY boring year on Homeclips.

5) Like most people, I work for a living. So the possibility of taking time off to travel to a Voyeurweb party isn't an option, and the offer is worthless to me. So please stop the bullshit and get the damn sites back up.

6) I will be glad to send you my actual name and address when you send me yours and I can verify it. You can send it to the email address I already sent to you: jasondmorris69@gmail.com. STILL haven't gotten a response to the email I sent to the addy on your splash page. Otherwise, I have no way of knowing if this is just a phishing expedition to compromise my personal info. Like I said, absent proof to the contrary, I think YOU'RE Igor. Once again, you people screwed up (supposedly), and I don't see why it's my responsibility to help you correct it. It's your responsibility to make good on my subscription as business people - it was scheduled to terminate on July 22, and I was planning on renewing, unless you keep bullshitting me. How about trying honesty for a change?

Your turn.

[marathon]

This is so entertaining. Better than naked pictures of women. Well almost.

I am impressed and thankful that Katherine is making an effort to communicate with the community here. So thanks. And I especially enjoy the perky and voluptuous banter. Her comments are in the true spirit of VW. How is it overload is so narrow minded? I know for a fact that perky and voluptuous can coexist. I've had a few in my mouth. Just sayin...

Seems to me the best indicator of all that matters is the fact that everyone gives a shit, on all sides. As a LONG TIME fan of VW and one who remembers the original Igor comments (including my favorite, "wfi"), I can only hope that the attorneys won't cheapen the experience any further. I was sorry to see real voyeur shots taken off the site and believe that the original Igor probably walked away at some point (with a few bucks) since it was not his (or her) vision anymore. Such is life and commerce.

Katherine, keep the faith. I can't wait to see those funbags.

[cfarerx]

Ms Lucas,

I have done a fair amount of reading here on the VWBB forum and the VCBB forum. I'm concerned about the lack of professional etiquette and transparency here. I have three questions.

How will VW expect to verify my paid membership and username and password?

Are the VW/RC/HC databases and contri archives intact?

Is there new content currently being submitted for when the site goes live again?

As others above have mentioned, I too have a certain Business/IT professional experience. I am looking for answers in a more professional, technical and concrete manner.

Regards,
Mr Johnson

[Crazyd]

"overLOAD"...................a very accurate handle if there ever was one.

[coachware]

Well someone else that thinks thsi all BS nice and really well put maybe she should be hired as the spokesperson for this site, at least I would believe her.

[SystemNuked]

Overload,

If I was the (well) hidden man behind the scenes of this website I would be wondering why you were not my PR person. Very straight forward and honest. That is what needs to be happening right now with the current situation.

[VWPublicRelations]

This is so entertaining. Better than naked pictures of women. Well almost.

I am impressed and thankful that Katherine is making an effort to communicate with the community here. So thanks. And I especially enjoy the perky and voluptuous banter. Her comments are in the true spirit of VW. How is it overload is so narrow minded? I know for a fact that perky and voluptuous can coexist. I've had a few in my mouth. Just sayin...

Seems to me the best indicator of all that matters is the fact that everyone gives a shit, on all sides. As a LONG TIME fan of VW and one who remembers the original Igor comments (including my favorite, "wfi"), I can only hope that the attorneys won't cheapen the experience any further. I was sorry to see real voyeur shots taken off the site and believe that the original Igor probably walked away at some point (with a few bucks) since it was not his (or her) vision anymore. Such is life and commerce.

Katherine, keep the faith. I can't wait to see those funbags.

At least one person who has had experience with voluptuous and perky co-existence!

[playset]

Good morning VW admin.
No mud slinging here:)
I have enjoyed the site for years and have been a paying customer of Redclouds and Homeclips too:).........and will be again when the site is back up and running.
I understand that sometimes in life things don't go as planned. LOL
In fact, even with proper planning things still don't go right:)
Keep doing whatever it is you guys and gals need to do to get the site back up and running. If I need to re-purchase my memberships again in order to be able to see the hotties on Homeclips and Recclouds then I will do it. I don't think the 40 or so bucks is going to force me to need a bailout by the government:)
If Murphy, with Murphys Law, is working with you then I know you can't guarantee a date to be back on line but a new estimate would be great.
Ignore the haters. Like it has already been said, you're not going to please them anyway.

[VWPublicRelations]

Good morning VW admin.
No mud slinging here:)
I have enjoyed the site for years and have been a paying customer of Redclouds and Homeclips too:).........and will be again when the site is back up and running.
I understand that sometimes in life things don't go as planned. LOL
In fact, even with proper planning things still don't go right:)
Keep doing whatever it is you guys and gals need to do to get the site back up and running. If I need to re-purchase my memberships again in order to be able to see the hotties on Homeclips and Recclouds then I will do it. I don't think the 40 or so bucks is going to force me to need a bailout by the government:)
If Murphy, with Murphys Law, is working with you then I know you can't guarantee a date to be back on line but a new estimate would be great.
Ignore the haters. Like it has already been said, you're not going to please them anyway.

Based on the most recent meeting with the technical staff yesterday, I have been told within this coming week. And I saw the new site that is coming back- it is seriously going to take everyone's breath away.

[playset]

Thanks for the reply.
I'm not sure if ya'll need any help or not but Cat could help.
Im not sure if she would be a help or a distraction though. LOL