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#137928
johnny, it is NEVER wrong to point out a lie. And for a reporter it is an obligation to do so.

I realize that this leaves Republicans with nothing left to say, but that's the political life they chose.

They could come around to telling the truth anytime they want, but they don't want to. Just like you, they care nothing for the truth. Every last one of you Trump supporters is a practicing student of Goebbels.
#137929
There are cats in Springfield with less shifty eye movement than Clowntoker.

The leftist moderators from CBS sought to fact-check Vance on illegal aliens, but got the situation wrong.

Also, the notion that some biased debate moderator is an objective arbiter of what is a fact -- or not-- is ludicrous.
#137932
johnny, Vance lied about the Haitians in Springfield being "illegal immigrants" when they aren't.

The moderators aren't the arbiters of what is fact, dimwit. Reality is the arbiter of what is fact, and the reporters simply stated the facts. It is a fact that the Haitians are in Springfield under the auspices of a legal government program and they are legally documented. That isn't something made up by liberals. It's not a matter of opinion. It's an indisputable fact.

If you don't like that fact (as Republicans don't) because it doesn't fit your phony campaign narrative, it isn't the fault of those who know the facts and tell you what the facts are.

Falsely calling the Haitians "illegal immigrants" just to whip up a frenzy in your ignorant and gullible constituents is a lie.
#137934
Norah O'Donnell and Brennan, neither one of them ever heard of Walter Lippmann.

They never read The Public Philosophy, or even heard of it probably.

They are partisan advocates for Democrats, not journalists, and everyone knows that.

The Republicans who allowed yet another 3 on 1 debate to unfold, after the 3 on 1 "debate" debacle conducted by ABC where Kamala's staff got "sample questions" and were assured that only Trump would be attacked about facts, they were the foolish ones.

Well, except for Clowntoker who always maintains his court jester status.
#137937
See, johnny? You honestly believe that if you shoot the messenger, then the facts will go away. But they don't. They're still the facts. And that makes you look intellectually impotent.....because you can't refute what they said.

Vance lied. Someone called him out on it. That's a good thing, even good for YOU, because you had no idea that the Haitian's were in Springfield legally. Or if you did know and maintained your support for their lies anyway, then you are complicit in the lies Trump and Vance are telling and it proves you don't give a damn about the truth, exactly as I have been saying.

So which is it? You were ignorant of the Haitian's legal immigration status? Or you have been knowingly complicit in the partisan lies that Vance and Trump have fabricated? It's one or the other.


"Well, except for His Lordship who always maintains his court jester status."-johnflubs

Thank you for admitting that I make you laugh as I rub your nose in the uncomfortable truth of your partisan hypocrisy and endless impotent ad hominem attacks, johnny. The compliment is appreciated.
#137944
johnny, you go on and on with your irrelevant moot ad hominem attack on the moderators, but you can't address the actual issue which is that Vance thought he had free rein to lie so he did. But when they called him on his blatant lie, he started whining that he should be left alone to continue lying.

What is wrong with you, supporting a liar like this?
#137950
The moderators were part of the 3 on 1 debate, so of course it is relevant to remark upon their obvious bias.

You can use any phone app you want, and it does not start an illegal alien on the long path to citizenship.

Now, if people want to argue it takes too long to become a legal citizen, I might agree.

It can also take a long time to become affluent, like Mr Forbes is, but that doesn't mean it is okay to steal.

Nor is it okay to live illegally in another country.
#137968
"Those people from Haiti remained illegal aliens."-johnfibs

Dimwit, they have "temporary protected status" which is a temporarily legal immigration status.


"A cell phone app is not a statutory step in the path to American citizenship."-johnflubs

Why do you keep bringing up some cell phone app as a path to citizenship as if that's relevant? The question is not whether any of them are on a citizenship path. The question is whether they are here illegally, which they are not.

"Immigration law experts told PolitiFact that Haitians in these temporary programs are in the US legally."

It's times like this that it becomes evident that johnforbes knows nothing about the law.

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