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By johnforbes
#136248
It is now known that former acting CIA Director Michael Morell got a call from Anthony Blinken (then an advisor to the Biden campaign) which caused Morell's creation of the letter signed by 51 retired intel experts claiming the Hunter laptop story had all the earmarks of Russian disinfo.

In other words, the disinfo was orchestrated by Blinken (now Sec of State) and Morell to deprive voters of salient information before the election.

After Biden debated Trump, and used the letter to claim the laptop story was false, the Biden Campaign phoned Morell to thank him for the political help
By Clownkicker
#136251
johnforbes is still so stupid he doesn't understand that for something to be "election interference" it must be illegal.

Otherwise, it is just "campaigning."

There is nothing illegal about some retired guys writing a statement that is accurate at the time.

johnforbes is simply trying to distract from Trump's illegal misrepresented hush money payoffs through his lawyer a couple weeks before the election. That was "election interference" but unsurprisingly johnforbes doesn't care about that.

Now some guy is grabbing Trump by the pussy, and johnforbes is jealous.
By johnforbes
#136253
By that time, the laptop had been in federal custody for 10 months.

Even a casual observer, such as those of us here, strongly suspected the laptop was real.

Heck, his attorney requested the return of his client's property.

The store owner recognized a drunken Hunter who left it off, and signed for it.

This was Blinken unethically soliciting an intel operative (acting director) for help in a disinformation campaign, and the leftist media jumped on board gleefully.

No, Clowntroller cannot wriggle out of this.
By Clownkicker
#136254
johnforbes is STILL so stupid he doesn't understand that for something to be "election interference" it must be illegal.

Otherwise, it is just "campaigning."

There is nothing illegal about some retired guys writing a statement that is accurate at the time.

johnforbes simply cannot understand that no one was saying the computer wasn't Hunter's. They were saying the CONTENTS of the computer could have been hacked or altered by Russians. And for all anyone knew at the time, it could have. Even johnforbes had to admit that the computer could have been compromised as a dirty trick for Trump to cover up his adultery and illegal hush money payments.

Regardless, there is no "election interference" when no one interfered with an election but merely campaigned legally.

Unlike with Trump's crimes, in Biden's case nobody broke any law, dummy.
By johnforbes
#136257
That is not just "campaigning" to get the acting director of an intel agency to cobble together a letter with 51 intel experts claiming Hunter's laptop was fake.

It was an orchestrated lie.

The laptop had by then been in custody 10 months and they all had to know it was either 1) real or 2) almost certainly real.

Before the election, it was known to the general public that a drunken Hunter had left off the laptop for repair, and signed a work order, and that his lawyer had requested the laptop back after it reverted to the shop over unpaid bills.

Also, by then, a lot of tough-to-fake pics of Hunter were leaked all over the Internet.

So they all knew.
By Clownkicker
#136259
"That is not just "campaigning" to get the acting director of an intel agency to cobble together a letter with 51 intel experts claiming Hunter's laptop was fake."-johnfibs

So what crime are you alleging Joe Biden committed? Yeah, that's what I thought.

And you shouldn't mischaracterize the letter by a bunch of retired guys that way, Dishonestjohn. The experts never said it was fake.

"We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement..."-letter from 51 retired guys

If dimwitted simpletons like yourself read it otherwise, then that's on you. You are just another partisan toll, after all.
By johnforbes
#136261
As acting director, Morell was using taxpayer dollars to help Blinken who was then on Biden's campaign team.

"... Mike Morell, former deputy director of the CIA, sent a recruitment email, along with a draft of the letter, to intelligence officials days ahead of the second presidential debate between Biden and Trump. I n the letter, Morell admitted that one purpose of the letter, which was published Oct. 19, 2020, was to give Biden an o pportunity to rebut Trump should a discussion about the "laptop from hell" come up.
By Clownkicker
#136266
So now you're saying Morell is guilty of election interference?

That's a real stretch, dummy.

I hope you have some evidence that he sent the letter on company time.

And I hope you can show that he committed a crime in sending it.

Not to worry, johnny. I won't hold my breath waiting for your nonexistent evidence.
By johnforbes
#136274
Polls have shown that, had voters known the laptop was real, they would not have voted for Biden.

People taking polls respond to polls, so it has nothing to do with a luminary such as Forbes who does not reply to polls.

Blinken wanted a "talking point" in the debate so Biden could rebut Trump, and Morell confessed to orchestrating the letter from 51 retired intel experts to provide that for the debate.

Depriving voters of salient info just 3 weeks before an election does interefere, and Biden and Blinken and Morell all had to realize the implications of what they did, eh?

If Repubs had cobbled together a fake letter like that to lie about a laptop from Trump Jr, imagine the reaction from Dems.
By Clownkicker
#136275
Can anyone figure out why johnforbes is now praising Biden's campaigning in this way?

Notice johnforbes doesn't consider Trump's use of illegally paid hush money to keep salient information from the voting public just weeks before the election to be "election interference" so that gives you an idea of just how serious johnforbes is about this partisan red herring of 'election interference' to be.

I guess when you can't find any evidence of actual illegal election interference it forces you to concede that your candidate was cleverly outmaneuvered by someone smarter.
By johnforbes
#136276
Non-disclosure agreements are common in business, and any billionaire is constantly contending with meritless lawsuits and other shakedown efforts.

In the recent example, a gal claimed assault in Bergdorf Goodman years ago, but couldn't recall the year, didn't report it at the time, no witness, no proof, no nothing.

Should Biden get the benefit of a presumption of innocent in the similar allegations of assault made by Tara Reade? Yes.

But all that is vastly different from the acting head of an intel agency putting together. at the request of Blinken from the Biden campaign, a letter signed by 51 retired intel experts suggesting the Hunter laptop story was Russian disinfo.

In fact, it was disinfo from Morell and Blinken, and the Biden Campaign called the day after the debate to thank them for the "talking point."
By Clownkicker
#136282
johnny, it doesn't help your case when you admit that Trump withheld pertinent information from the public right before an election, and by your definition, that is election interference.

But hypocrisy is what you are and what you do, so you are reliably true to your partisan douche baggery.
By johnforbes
#136292
Trump, as usual, kept little or nothing to himself.

When asked what she had on, Marilyn Monroe famously replied she only had the radio on.

But Morell, paid by the taxpayer, worked with Blinken from the Biden Campaign to cobble together the list of 51 retired intel experts who pretended the laptop was Russsian disinfo.

But it was their disinfo, 3 weeks before an election, which was attempted election inteference, and using taxpayer dollars to help Democrats.
By Clownkicker
#136295
johnny, it doesn't help your case when you admit that Trump withheld pertinent information from the public right before an election, and by your definition, that is election interference.
By johnforbes
#136300
No candidate wants to air dirty laundry in public.

But that's a far different matter from Blinken on the Biden Campaign asking the acting direct of an intel agency to set up a letter and get 51 retired intel experts to sign it -- a letter alleging Russian disinformation which was itself Democrat disinformation.

And who funds the pay and benefits of intel agents -- taxpayers, both Repub and Dem, do that.
By Clownkicker
#136302
I See.... so you DON'T actually have a problem with candidates "interfering" with elections by withholding pertinent information.

You still support Trump for doing it, by your own standard. You don't condemn his particular "interference."

But now you pretend YOU and not the law are the arbiter of just how much "interference" is acceptable and how much is suddenly too much.

Got it. You wouldn't be Hypocritejohnny if your partisan position was rational.
By johnforbes
#136306
Nobody knows for sure, but it always was unlikely that a guy worried about germs like Trump would have touched Stormy Daniels -- a veritable Petri Dish.

Of course, to be fair, the average person could take a barnyard stroll and still be far cleaner than Clownswisher during his torrid tawdry tenure in the fetid filth of Frisco.
By Clownkicker
#136307
Johnny, reiterating your hypocritical support for Trump's election interference only amplifies your partisan hypocrisy.

When will you learn to keep your mouth shut already?
By johnforbes
#136321
You misunderstood.

This has nothing to do with Trump.

No person of good will wants the acting director of the CIA to cobble together, at the best of one party's campaign, a list of 51 retired intel experts to provide a fake talking point as election disinformation.

But Morell confessed to doing that with Blinken.
By Clownkicker
#136324
Only I didn't misunderstand, dimwit.

You have given Trump a pass for his 'election interference' that you admit he committed, but you have your panties in a bunch over a factual letter written by a bunch of retired guys.

The thing about Trump was actually about Trump. He actually did illegally hide relevant information about himself.

The thing about Hunter is not about Joe Biden and is thus irrelevant. Joe Biden didn't hide any information about himself and certainly didn't commit any crimes doing so, as Trump did. Besides, nobody decides not to vote for someone just because their son is a douche bag.

If they did, every Trump supporter would have flipped their votes just because of Don Jr. and Eric.

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