Political discussions about everything
By johnforbes
#130318
One of France's top colleges -- the Ecole Nationale d'Administration - - will be shut down according to French President Emmanuel Macron under plans to boost social mobility.

Given that announcement, I am making plans to shut down the elite Ecole Nationale d'Voyeurweb Politique, which was the school which trained so many of us to post here.

Clownslacker, a proud graduate of the Eastern Mississippi Academy of Custodial Science, will not be affected.
By elklindo69
#130424
^^ Apparently the two previous posters are not the sharpest tools in the shed. ^^

Hey but wait....I hear that Biden went to play golf the other day.

Perhaps conservatives will have something else to discuss on Fox News other than Coke, baseball, toy potatoes, children's books, fishnet stockings and a dog taking a dump.

LMFAO!!!

:D
By sillydaddy
#130426
Biden went golfing?
I just received an Amber Alert..
evidently, he took a wrong turn on his way to the 16th green and had
to forfeit the hole when he didn't show up... :O
By johnforbes
#130427
French used to be the language of diplomacy, and it was the language in which we were all trained to post here.

Elkin's post was, in French, bete, debile, and sot.
By elklindo69
#130449
I hear that Trump and his entire family have gotten the COVID-19 vaccinations, but his supporters still parrot the fake hydroxchloroquinine news stories and refuse to get vaccinated because ignorance is stronger than any virus....and you can't vaccinate against stupid.
By johnforbes
#130454
Elkin's ignorance consigned many to get covid.

1.8 billion who got HCQ early had a very much lower mortality rate.
By Clownkicker
#130455
And where is the pandemic worst in the world right now, johnny?

Thailand and India, among the very 1.8 billions of people you claim HCQ had something to do with sparing them the worst of the first wave.

Why isn't it saving them now, johnny?


That's the problem with mere statistical analysis of HCQ verses scientific studies of HCQ (which all showed it to be ineffective against COVID.) One establishes cause and effect. The other doesn't. Your HCQ 'study' was only a statistical analysis, not a scientific study of HCQ's effectiveness.
By johnforbes
#130460
It isn't me claiming anything.

The places which used HCQ early total up to about 1.8 billion people (not a small sample).

Thankfully, they had a far lower mortality rate.

As to covid cases globally, even Clown would probably agree that covid is washing over the globe despite human efforts to halt it.
By Clownkicker
#130464
"It isn't me claiming anything."-johnfibs

It IS you claiming something, dimwit.

You've started thread after thread insisting HCQ was effective against COVID-19 (that's a "claim" you imbecile, and you're still doing it right now) and your claim that Trump was right to promote it without any scientific background to support his foolishness.


"As to covid cases globally, even Clown would probably agree that covid is washing over the globe despite human efforts to halt it."-johnflubs

EXACTLY, dimwit. Thank you for conceding that HCQ hasn't been effective against COVID-19 anywhere in the world, contrary to what you keep saying.

Once again johnforbes agrees with me but must pretend he disagrees with me for idiotic partisan Trump-supporting purposes.
By johnforbes
#130465
Clown, you fail to recall the facts.

Everybody said a year ago to "Follow the Science."

So I did, and it said what it said.

I'm not a medical doctor or scientist, so I'm in no position to make any claim of efficacy for any therapy, but I did do the responsible thing and remain curious what was true.

Bear in mind that the goal was never to avoid new case numbers, but to avoid hospitalization and death.
By Clownkicker
#130469
"I'm not a medical doctor or scientist, so I'm in no position to make any claim of efficacy for any therapy, but I did do the responsible thing and remain curious what was true."-dishonestjohn

And yet you kept supporting Trump touting it as an effective therapy when he knew no more about than you do.
Instead of suggesting that Trump should shut his ignorant mouth about it, you supported layman Trump talking against his public health experts and undermining public trust in effective measures instead of pursuing measures against COVID that actually work. In fact, you continue to talk against those effective measures to this day.


"Bear in mind that the goal was never to avoid new case numbers, but to avoid hospitalization and death."-johnflubs

...which HCQ is failing at doing. The Indian health system is ready to collapse over the numbers involved.
By johnforbes
#130504
Trump said take a look at HCQ, and that woulda been sound advice.

But the Left didn't care about public health -- only about its hatred of Trump.

Early HCQ users had a 79 percent lower mortality rate.

I care about that, but the Left didn't.
By Clownkicker
#130507
"Trump said take a look at HCQ, and that woulda been sound advice."-johnfoibles

He also said people could inject bleach into their bodies. That woulda been galactically stupid. But you supported every idiotic thing out of Trump's mouth without criticism. You still do to this day. Not once have you said that Trump suggesting injecting bleach into people was a bad idea.

Meanwhile, public health professionals around the world DID look at HCQ, did multiple trial studies with it. and told us that it was not effective against COVID. Why are you still criticizing them for doing exactly what you just said they should have done?


But the Right didn't care about public health -- only about its love of Trump, a guy without any public health or scientific education whatsoever. You are still here insisting that ignoramus knows more than Fauci knows.

STATISTICAL ANALYSIS ALONE indicated that "Early HCQ users had a 79 percent lower mortality rate." but there was no cause and effect shown in the analysis. I care about that. You don't.
It turned out to be a statistical anomaly when the drug was actually tested scientifically. You have further proof today as the medical system in India is collapsing because HCQ didn't help them.


"I care about that, but the Left didn't."-johnflubs

Yes, you still care about something that has been demonstrated to be ineffective against COVID. You admit you are incorrigible. But that isn't an argument FOR any public health policy. The Right "wished" for all sorts of things that didn't work; you among them.
The Left waited for scientific study results before prescribing drugs to people, as any sane person would insist upon and support. You don't. Meanwhile, there were Trump supporters that poisoned themselves ingesting bleach and other cleaning products on Trump's reckless suggestion. (National poisonings doubled)

https://time.com/5835244/accidental-poisonings-trump/

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news ... oronavirus

https://whdh.com/news/health-officials- ... nfectants/

Now if you are saying the Right is insane, then 'nuff said. That isn't news to liberal minds.
By johnforbes
#130513
Clown is wrong again.

Every morning -- while the dew still sparkles on the lawn as it stretches out to the fog-shrouded lake -- I drink a tall, cool glass of bleach before my first set of situps.

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