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#130371
That one gal who bought the 1.4 million house in California has recently bought over 3 million in real estate.

Heck, I haven't spent that much on real estate this year.

By way of contrast, Clowntoker spent a full $178.28 on his shack on Recycle Bin Boulevard in scenic downtown Landfill, Louisiana.

Thoughts?
#130373
"...Washington (CNN) - A House committee on Wednesday advanced a bill that would create a commission to study reparations for descendants of enslaved Americans, a major achievement for advocates of reparations as it marks the first time this bill could have a full House vote on the floor.

The niggers are living in "high cotton"...
I'm gonna put on a black face and see if I can "pass"... :laugh: :laugh:
#130384
johnny, while it's true the Irish were worked like animals, the blacks were worked like slaves. Not the same thing.

The Irish came here by choice. The blacks were kidnapped and didn't want anything to do with it.

The Irish became law enforcement officers and got good jobs. The blacks became sharecroppers and servants to whites, which was only marginally better than slavery.

The Irish were allowed to buy homes in good neighborhoods that would appreciate in value. The blacks were legally red-lined out of good housing.

The Irish were allowed into good universities. Heck, they even had Notre Dame. Blacks were not allowed into those first rate institutions.

The Irish were allowed good jobs in the military. They could even fly. For a long time Blacks were segregated in the military and were relegated to KP and janitorial work. Until 1942 (Tuskegee Airmen) they were not allowed to fly or command white servicemen, and couldn't rise in the ranks of the white military.

The list of systemic injustices goes on and on.

The Irish are no longer oppressed and haven't been for a century. Blacks are still being oppressed as demonstrated by the rash of police killings of blacks for selling cigarettes on the sidewalk and driving while black.

johnfgorbes knows all of this, but because he is a privileged white male, he couldn't care less about injustice in America.

He got his due to his privilege. Fuck everyone else.
#130385
True enough, but those who rounded up and sold slaves in Africa were typically black.

As to comparing the two situations, obviously there are differences.

My point, though, was that generational guilt doesn't exist and shouldn't.

Nobody now alive now owned slaves in America. Even my great grandfather didn't and, because of his religious beliefs, would not have.

Suggesting that I need to feel guilty for something even my great grandfather didn't do is not logical.

This race-baiting by Democrats hurts the country.

America is the least racist big country in human history.
#130386
"True enough, but those who rounded up and sold slaves in Africa were typically black."-johnforbes

And that has exactly nothing to do with the fact that those brought here as slaves unjustly lived and died as slaves.
You do love your irrelevant red herrings, don't you.


"My point, though, was that generational guilt doesn't exist and shouldn't."-johnflubs

Who said anything about generational guilt? Why are you bringing up such irrelevancies? You don't have to be personally guilty of anything to support social justice.


"Nobody now alive now owned slaves in America. "-johnforbes

So what? Who cares? Please stick to the issue we're discussing.


"Even my great grandfather didn't and, because of his religious beliefs, would not have."johnforbes

So what? Good for him. What has that got to do with anything?


"Suggesting that I need to feel guilty for something even my great grandfather didn't do is not logical."-dishonest john

Nobody (other than your deviant parish priest) ever suggested you feel guilty about anything. Why would you bring up such idiotic irrelevancies? You're right, it ISN'T logical. You made it up and dishonestly threw it into the mix as a diversion.


"America is the least racist big country in human history."-johnfibs

Criminy, johnny, this "big country" was literally FOUNDED on racism. Read the Constitution fer gawds sake. The Founding Fathers fought over it and the racists won. Blacks were considered to be only 3/5 human. What is wrong with you? How many other "big countries" have racism written right into their founding document? Give us a few examples.

You continually pretend to be educated but you have never read the U.S. Constitution.


"This race-baiting by Democrats hurts the country."-john"partisanhack"forbes

johnny, for the last time, social justice is not "race-baiting". Social justice is the responsibility of, and a benefit to, every American. As they say, "No Justice, No Peace" That is true around the world and in all human societies, not just here and not just as a partisan issue you are dishonestly trying to turn it into for purely partisan purposes.
#130387
If America is not the least racist big country in human history, then you'll be glad to provide your choice for that country.

You can't pay reparations today for 19th Century slavery. Well, you can, but it would be divisive and stupid.

The proper cure for racism is equal opportunity, not a new form of revenge racism --- which is what affirmation action is.

The modern Left is just using two main lines of attack to destroy America:

1) False claims of systemic racism. The actual situation has been 50 years of reverse racism (afffirmative action)

2) Climate change spending
#130389
"If America is not the least racist big country in human history, then you'll be glad to provide your choice for that country."-johnfoibles

johnny, the United States was officially 100% racist until 1868. 100%. It's in the Constitution.

And despite your silly yammering about how you always give 105% to your endeavors, there isn't actually anything greater than 100%.

After that, a huge chunk of the country was still officially racist. There was Jim Crow around the South.(And a lot of the North.)
Blacks could not legally stay at hotels or eat at restaurants or drink out of water fountains and swim in public pools even as late as the 1960s. That's racist, johnny, believe it or not. I know you simply accepted it as the way things were, and I know you think they should just go eat and sleep with their own kind, but I hate to break it to you, that's still racist. And perpetrators of those injustices from the 1960s are still alive. They owe it to people today to try to make it right.

Blacks couldn't even vote in much of the country because they were not allowed to register or were lynched if they did vote. Until the Civil Rights Act in 1964 that's the way it was.

Today Republicans are STILL trying to stop blacks from voting in Georgia and dozens of other states, going so far as to make it a crime to take them water if they are standing for hours in intentionally caused lines outside the polls. That's now official legal policy. That's today, not the past. That's at least 90% racist, johnny. It's not debatable. It's a fact.

But let's not get sidetracked by the blatant ugliness of your silly assertion. Let's pretend for a moment that America actually "is the least racist big country in human history." (If that isn't an absolutely meaningless and unmeasurable assessment, I don't know what is. "Look, they're 60% racist and we're only 55% racist, so that makes it okay and we don't need to change a thing or improve or pursue social justice." That's embarrassingly racist all by itself, johnny, and it reflects a large portion of America, and includes YOU specifically.)

Now, even if your silly statement is somehow true, so what? You don't get points and brag about it just because you are slightly less horrible than some other horrible racist country. Injustice is injustice regardless of how many black people are victims of it or how many privileged white people benefit from it. You, as a white Irish male are STILL benefiting from the injustice of the past 400 years on a daily basis. That's not your "fault" but it's true. You don't need to feel guilty about it. You just need to help change it. If you PERSONALLY are not doing something to realize the "equal opportunity" you argue is the solution, then you are just ineffectually blowing hot air. (As you are wont to do.)

Whites can't turn back the clock, and we can't undo the injustice perpetrated on the dead victims of the past, but we CAN try to lessen the additional 150-year handicap legally placed upon the living victims of racism in this country.
#130401
America is the least racist big country in human history. If not, please name the big country you deem better.
Only in America do niggers actually make up racist shit against themselves...
Remember Jussie Smollett, and the Air Force Academy students back in 2017..
I'm sure there are more, but this is just an example.... :O :laugh:
#130404
"The proper cure for racism is equal opportunity,..."-johnflubs

And when any attempt to provide this needed equal opportunity, johnny throws a fit...every time. He recently started a whole thread to bitch about a private company purposely giving people of color and women equal opportunity in pilot training to what white males have enjoyed. It actually pisses him off that private industry would do that; that the company has the gall to expect the makeup of its students to more closely reflect their prevalence in the broader population, thus offering equal opportunity.



"America is the least racist big country in human history. If not, please name the big country you deem better."-john"irrelevant"forbes

johnforbes does like to post irrelevant distractions when he can't refute a thing I say on the topic at hand.

Again, let's pretend what johnforbes asserts is correct, that "America is the least racist big country in human history." (What the size of a racist country has to do with its racism is unexplained by dishonestjohn. He won't even offer criteria to explain what constitutes a so-called "big country. I think he's dishonestly trying to limit our choices to Russia, China, India, and Brazil.)

Now, perhaps johnforbes will go on to explain how that alleged status as "the least racist big country" somehow excuses the widespread racism in this country.

(This should be funny, watching him flail around trying to make excuses for our racism based on 'size'. I think he's remembering his days in the San Francisco bath houses where he was always wistfully awed by the size of the dicks on those big black guys.)
#130411
"1) What big country is less racist than America?"-johnforbes

See above. Your irrelevant and pointless question was already asked and answered, counselor.



"2) Where is the proof of any systemic racism in America other than affirmative action (racism against asians/whites)?"-johnflubs

Just a little light reading before bed that might give you nightmares....if you have any humanity.

So go ahead, johnny. You should sleep like a baby.

A big, whiny, drooling baby.


https://www.judges.org/news-and-info/mo ... om-racism/

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-libra ... ice-system

https://www.sentencingproject.org/publi ... sparities/

https://www.acslaw.org/wp-content/uploa ... System.pdf

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... ce-system/

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