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#128694
"Climate Change Czar John Kerry Lives in Waterfront Mansion on Martha's Vineyard"-johnfoibles

Good for him. What's your point.


You really don't understand climate change, do you, dummy.

First of all, he sold his Nantucket low bank house a few feet from the shore and got out. Smart, right?


You do understand that Kerry is 76 years old, right?

The new purchase is further back from the shore and a few feet higher up. Shrewd move, right?

Tell me, do you honestly believe his new house will be underwater before he dies?

You just can't stand when someone walks the walk and makes intelligent decisions, can you?
#128714
johnny, there is nothing wrong with buying waterfront 'mansions' if you so choose. There is nothing hypocritical about it either.

Once you realize that you will be dead before the real shit hits the fan in 50 years, who cares where you live, dimwit? It might as well be beautiful and luxurious.

That said, all they can do politically is to try to save the planet for YOUR grandchildren. You know, the little bastards you couldn't care less about or you would demonstrate that you do care by adopting rational environmental policies for their benefit.

The fact that Republicans refuse to adopt rational, science-based environmental policies only proves that they care no more for their own progeny than they do for anyone else's, which is not at all.

Let the little bastards fend for themselves, eh, johnny?

"Why, when I was a kid I had it tough. Why shouldn't they?"-Joe Republican
#128722
I just told you they aren't hypocrites in so many words, dimwit. You really need to join RealTool in a remedial reading class.

No climate change expert has ever said buying waterfront real estate exacerbates climate change in any way, dummy.

So rightly advocating for science-based environmental policies to mitigate climate change has nothing to do with living by the water. It's a free country.

Did it ever occur to you that the choice of living by the water might have been Kerry's wife's? She's the one with the money. And probably the Vineyard friends as well. I imagine she lives wherever she wants.

But no, it's always partisan politics with you. You don't live in the real world. You live in Trumplandia.
#128723
Well, Kerry's wife, the Heinz widow, does have more money than him, but he has plenty himself -- over a hundred million if memory serves.

Of course, there may have been other reasons, among them the fact that it is a beautiful place and apparently Kerry likes to sail a yacht and do things such as sailboarding.

At his age, he must work on fitness or be lucky to do such things.

But I never liked Kerry because of his lies about his fellow veterans, the whole torture bit which he never apologized for.

As to climate, his waterfront mansion would not matter at all but for it showing his utter hypocrisy.
#128725
Again, it is not hypocrisy to advocate for science-based environmental policies and also live on the waterfront.

Show us any climate scientist that has said living by the water causes climate change, dimwit.

It is not hypocrisy because they don't live on the Vineyard waterfront while arguing others should not live on the Vineyard waterfront because of climate change. It's really stupid and dishonest that you claim they do.

You really need to learn the meaning of the word "hypocrisy." Your ignorance of the meaning of the word may account for your constant partisan hypocrisy. You're simply don't know you are a partisan hypocrite because you don't know the meaning of the word.
#128732
It does not, dimwit. You need to learn what hypocrisy means, johnny.

To be a hypocrite, Kerry would have had to tell people living by the shore causes climate change. He never said that, did he.
To be a hypocrite, Kerry would have had to support laws based on climate scientists who claimed living by the shore causes climate change. No scientist has ever claimed that.
To be a hypocrite, Kerry would have had to pass laws keeping others from living by the shore claiming it would exacerbate climate change. He never did such a thing.

It is not hypocrisy to look at the facts and make rational choices based on those facts as long as those choices don't exacerbate climate change. Kerry's choices don't.

Kerry will live out his life only having to face some storm damage, which presumably is a price he is willing to pay for the benefits derived from living there. The next owners will be the ones facing the loss of their home due to climate change.

Once you learn what hypocrisy actually means, maybe you will finally start to be embarrassed for being one, johnny.
#128738
Kerry will live out his life only having to face some storm damage, which presumably is a price he is willing to pay for the benefits derived from living there. The next owners will be the ones facing the loss of their home due to climate change.
Clown you said living by the shore does not cause climate change for Kerry..
But as soon as he sells the next owners will be facing the loss...."due to climate change" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
#128749
"But as soon as he sells the next owners will be facing the loss...."due to climate change""-sillydummy

Quite true, silly.

And you know the next person who buys it will be a Republican climate change denier, so don't worry your silly little head about it. Because he will have decades of proof of climate change and he bought it anyway.

It's expensive being an ignorant partisan tool. Just ask RealTool about his partisan hate losses in gold this year.
#128762
"Living near the shore does not cause climate change. "-johnforbes

Then why do you keep insisting Kerry is doing something to make climate change worse, johnny? You keep accusing him of hypocrisy by living at the sea side even as you admit it is not causing climate change or making it worse in any way. In other words, his lifestyle choices are consistent with his stance against climate change. Now go look up the word "hypocrisy".

As long as Kerry is fighting to slow climate change and he isn't doing anything against that goal personally, then he isn't a hypocrite, dummy. He isn't asking anyone not to do something he is doing. He doesn't say anyone else can't buy a house by the sea but he can. He is consistent; exactly the opposite of a hypocrite.

A hypocrite would be someone who says we should try to stop climate change as he drills for more oil and gas and while putting roadblocks in place to stop the development of renewable energy sources. Kerry isn't doing that. Trump is.



"Kerry and the Obamas don't believe in rising seas or climate change, which is why they bought mansions on the water."-johnfibs

Of course they believe in climate change. Nothing they have done indicates otherwise. You simply made it up.

What they "believe" about sea level rise is irrelevant to their political stance on climate change. They are not the same thing, dimwit. They have the same estimates you have concerning sea level rise, but to you estimates aren't real. To Kerry and the Obama's they ARE real. That's why they are willing to gamble on seaside homes now before they die.



Climate change won't just destroy you at the sea shore. It will destroy you in the desert. Climate change will destroy you in presently-arable lands that will become arid in a few decades. Climate change will kill off thousands of species of animals. Climate change will cause temperature extremes that will freeze your pipes and stop your cars in the winter. You are essentially calling them hypocrites no matter WHERE they choose to live. That's just stupid.

Living in a seaside 'mansion' does nothing to cause climate change, as you said. So if you aren't accusing Kerry of contributing to climate change by his choice of living quarters, where is the hypocrisy? Whatever personal financial risks you are willing to take on before you die is your choice. Knowing you will be dead before the changes inundate your seaside home means you are quite free to live there despite climate change. You may also move to the desert now even though it will be too dry and too hot to live there 50 years from now. That doesn't make you a hypocrite either.

In fact, knowing how fast the sea levels will rise and temperatures will rise because you accept the reality of climate change merely means you have the information you need to evaluate your acceptable risks before you die. You should do it too, johnny. Our military is doing it every day. Donald Trump is doing it too, as his sea wall in Florida attests. The difference with Trump is he knows perfectly well it is happening but instead of policies that slow the change, his policies are accelerating the change by opening the Arctic for oil drilling, for example. In other words, he knows climate change is happening but he just doesn't give a fuck. Kerry and the Obama's do things to mitigate the change. Trump does things to make it worse.

As long as you don't contribute to climate change, it doesn't matter where you live. So there is no hypocrisy in living by the ocean or anywhere else. Personally, I wouldn't buy that house because I would want to pass it on someday as is. Unfortunately, the future owners of that property will have to tear it down and build a new house on stilts. And by then it will probably be worth $50 million.

I thought you understood about investing, johnny. Now you should learn about investing without harming the climate. You wouldn't want to be a hypocrite would you?

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