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By johnforbes
#126961
e most secure mask, an N95, led to a droplet transmission of below 0.1 percent. But handmade cotton and polypropylene masks, some of which were made from apron material, also proved effective, with droplet transmission ranging from 0.1 percent to 0.4 percent. One mask, which was knitted, released a higher number of droplets, from 0.1 percent to 0.6 percent. But none of the masks compared with the neck fleece, which had 110 percent droplet transmission (10 percent higher than not wearing a mask).
#126971
"But none of the masks compared with the neck fleece, which had 110 percent droplet transmission (10 percent higher than not wearing a mask)."-johnfibs

johnforbes is one of those morons who always gives "110%".

Obviously, it is impossible to exhale more droplets than you actually exhale, which is 100% of what you exhale.

johnforbes just can't grasp that 100% of exhalations is as high as exhalations can go.
#127072
Elkin, you'll have to ask the scientists who reported that.

What they say is that the constriction increases the pressure of the breathing -- as, for example, the rapid heartbeat experienced by Elkin when reading Karl Marx.
#127108
They are scientists, not "scientists."

The analysis, carried out by researchers at Duke University School of Medicine, relied on an “optimal measurement method” that uses a laser beam and cellphone camera to track the number of droplets that emerged from an individual while he or she wore a mask. Of the 14 masks, the two that proved least effective were a bandanna and what the researchers refer to as a neck fleece, also known as a neck gaiter.

The most secure mask, the N95, led to a droplet transmission of below 0.1 percent. But handmade cotton and polypropylene masks, some of which were made from apron material, proved beneficial, showing a droplet transmission ranging from 10 to 40 percent. One mask, which was knitted, released a higher number of droplets, with up to 60 percent droplet transmission. But none of the masks compared with the neck fleece, which had 110 percent droplet transmission (10 percent higher than not wearing a mask).
#127372
Your question is reasonable, and it is what I asked myself before reading.

But you are not challenging me.

I did not do the study.

The scientists who did the study found that the gaiter type of mask apparently increased the velocity, thus getting to that percent.
#127389
But how does it increase the velocity. It's does not make any sense?

First you have some 110% transmission.

Now you are saying it increases velocity or something?

Something doesn't seem right here?
#127401
It was one of those fascinating conclusions, and the questions you posed are, of course, the ones we all had upon reading the study.

My assumption was that it had to do with air travel and velocity.

For instance, some say that if you can breathe in air, covid can enter too.

We know that some masks which are less than N95 quality do nothing to deter covid, and only delimit aerosols or droplets going out in the event of a cough or sneeze.

That finding had to relate to velocity which was physically guided by the gaiter type of mask.

The whole mask thing this year has been wacky -- from not necessary before March 31 to the current posture which is that masks are essential to signal you are a good person with respect for others.

The answer to this is more science, eh?
#127494
I'm still not getting how you get 110% transmission by wearing certain masks.

I'm challenging the results of the study because there is something missing here? Nobody explained how you get 110% transmission? The whole purpose of the study was to determine why and there is no answer?

I'm starting to believe that this is a flawed study and the results are actually inconclusive.

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