[johnforbes]

In the past week, Biden claimed 340 million people have watched his livestreams.

Thus, people watched his online speech this week to track the number watching:

247 people

[Clownkicker]

Who cares, johnny? It's campaign rhetoric. Politicians are politicians and they will say anything to get a vote. What turnip truck did you just fall off anyway?

But if you so smartly believe nothing that Biden says, why fer gawds sake do you believe EVERYTHING that Trump says?

You have to realize what a sucker that makes you, right?

[johnforbes]

No, all kidding aside, I respect Biden for being able to draw that many people to listen.

[Clownkicker]

Yes, all kidding aside, I don't respect you at all because you are an unfunny partisan hypocrite, johnny.

[johnforbes]

With you, it goes beyond your profound respect for me.

You also have an undeniable fondless for my many decades of posts enlightening you and thereby improving your life.

[divermouse]

taking a shit improves my life, not listening to it. especially russian bullshit, zeebra shit, or lemming shit.

[sillydaddy]

You want some bullshit?
Listen to this..
Soon Joey is going to pick his VP running mate...
The guy has no backbone...he was talking out of his ass when he said he was going to pick a woman...
he said it because he thought it was the right thing to say at the time.....
Now the liberals, the media, and every swinging pussy on the Left expects him to keep his word...
He's fucked....

[Clownkicker]

sillydummy votes Republican.

It is incomprehensible to him that a candidate would say they will do something and then actually do it just because they said they would. So, sillydummy has to make up stupid shit instead, claiming Biden was "talking out his ass".

But that's understandable, I suppose, because Trump's mouth does look an awful lot like an asshole, doesn't it, silly.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/04 ... sting-lies

It's easy to see why sillydummy could confuse that part of person's body with an "asshole".

[johnforbes]

It would be racist and sexist for Biden to limit his VP search to white males.

But it is also racist and sexist for him to limit the search to minority females, as he has.

[Clownkicker]

So now you're voting for Biden?

Last time you voted for a racist sexist. You should have no problem doing it again, right, johnny?


Of course, Biden didn't limit himself to a minority female to begin with, did he.

He narrowed his choices down to a minority female.

Unlike Trump who RULED OUT a female of any sort right from the start back in 2016, and you had no problem with THAT racist sexism, did you.

But as a card-carrying hypocrite, you now have no choice but to be hypocritical about it now.

[johnforbes]

No, I have never voted for a racist.

A sexist, perhaps you could put JFK in that category?

Anyhow, I was too young to vote for JFK.

Even now, I am as fresh and youthful as the April rain.

[sillydaddy]

Unlike Trump who RULED OUT a female of any sort right from the start back in 2016, and you had no problem with THAT racist sexism, did you.

Because history has shown us you can't win with a female running mate...
That's why I say Joey is FUCKED..!

[Clownkicker]

^^^^^^ And sillydummy (our neighborhood racist sexist) stops by to make an ass of himself...AGAIN.

[sillydaddy]

History...Clown..!

[Clownkicker]

"History" is right"

But just because you have been making an ass of yourself for years doesn't mean you have to keep doing it forever.

Stop being a racist sexist Trump tool. Turn off that noisy copy machine and write a new page, fer gawds sake.

[RealJustme]

Who cares, johnny? It's campaign rhetoric.

Conservatives do care , if a politicians tells a lie, we will not vote for them. Democrats on the other hand, expect their politicians to be liars and accept it.

[Clownkicker]

"Conservatives do care , if a politicians tells a lie, we will not vote for them."-RealTool

Trump told a bunch of lies in 2016 and then you voted for him.

Since then he has told thousands of documented lies, and you're going to vote for him again.

Stop making up stupid shit about how conservatives won't vote for a candidates who lies. Not one of you could care less about it. You've admitted as much yourself in the past.

[elklindo69]

No, I have never voted for a racist.

You voted for Trump the race baiting king...didn't you?

The guy tossed away the dog whistle and went with an aircraft carrier grade air horn.

I'm wondering if Trump's bumbling buffoonery has triggered an anti-racist movement....time will tell.

[johnforbes]

You voted for Obama, the race-baiting king, didn't you?

Why yes, yes you did.

[elklindo69]

Obama never called racists "very nice people."

Trump dropped the dog whistle for the aircraft carrier grade air horn.

[johnforbes]

Nor did Trump.

Come on Elkin, go back and listen to what Trump actually said -- the full context -- about Charlottesville.

He said there were good people on both sides, and that was 100 percent true.

Elkin, if you knew Charlottesville even slightly, you would know it is a mostly leftist college town, so even you would concur with Trump.

[elklindo69]

Johnnie....you have gone deaf listening to Trump's bull horn race baiting diatribes.

There were neo-Nazi and white-supremacist groups who were carrying torches and chanting anti-semitic tropes.

Apparently his attempt to re-write history went up in flames. Because who were “very fine people” that Trump was talking about? That “Unite the Right” rally was organized by Richard Spencer who is a white nationalist. So now you see that this rally was not for your garden variety confederate statue supporter.

So you are misconstruing the people who were protesting in Charlottesville. The night before they were chanting those nazi slogans....

"Blood and Soil "
"Jews will not replace us"

So these individuals were NOT "very fine people."

[johnforbes]

No, Elkin, your hatred has blinded you to what Trump said.

Referring to the actual context -- the liberal population of that college town -- and to the folks protesting or not, Trump was absolutely positively accurate to say there were good people on both sides.

Come on Elkin, don't you know that a person can be disliked (say, Stalin or Hitler) and still have nice people in their extended family?

Surely you can think beyond your cartoonish stereotypes?

[elklindo69]

‘Really Proud of Him’: Alt-Right Leaders Praise Trump’s Comments

Hard-right activists say they’re “energized” by the president’s Tuesday press conference, at which he said there were “some very fine people” among the Charlottesville protesters.

White nationalist and alt-right activists are cheering President Trump for defending white-nationalist protesters and placing equal blame on counterprotesters for the violence that ensued in Charlottesville this past weekend at a press conference on Tuesday afternoon.

“Really proud of him,” the alt-right leader Richard Spencer said in a text message. “He bucked the narrative of Alt-Right violence, and made a statement that is fair and down to earth. C’ville could have hosted a peaceful rally — just like our event in May — if the police and mayor had done their jobs. Charlottesville needed to police the streets and police the antifa, whose organizations are dedicated to violence.”

[johnforbes]

Articles that use leftist descriptions such as "alt right" are inherently not trustworthy.

There are good people on both sides of almost any discussion.

[Clownkicker]

"There are good people on both sides of almost any discussion."-johnforbes

Perhaps johnforbes would be so good as to show us some "good people" on both sides of the Nazi "final solution" discussion or Al Qaeda's "Death to America" discussion? Or maybe the "Death to Israel" discussion? Or perhaps the "slavery" discussion? Or how about the "sex trafficking" discussion or the "drug cartel" discussion? Personally, johnforbes can easily see "both sides" of the "white supremacist" discussion.

It makes one wonder just how truly stupid and gullible johnforbes really is.

[johnforbes]

No, it makes us all wonder how naive Clownslacker is.

Germany is a wonderful country which produced many outstanding philosophers and scientists, and it still has some of the finest institutions of higher learning in the world.

Yet it produced the Nazi regime as well, and that killed 6 million Jews.

If you look at this fine forum for polite discussion of the issues of the day, it has produced fine gentlement such as myself, but also leftist lunatics such as Clown.

Such is the paradox of human nature.

[Clownkicker]

Notice johnforbes realizes he made an ass of himself and couldn't come up with a single example of any "good people" taking the "pro" side of any of those discussions. He simply ignored them all.

That answers our question about just how truly stupid and gullible johnforbes is. He is actually here arguing that there are "good people" who advocate for slavery, sex trafficking, the eradication of all Jews, the organized crime drug cartels, white supremacy, and of all things--death to America.

That is how evil johnforbes is. He couldn't possibly be that naive, so it's the only conclusion one can draw from his insane stance that there is are "good people" arguing "for" all of these issues. And he's arguing "for" Trump as well. That should frighten all of us.

[johnforbes]

No, Elkin and Clown have shown their ignorance of Charlottesville, which is a nice little college town.

And, like most college towns, it is a haven for leftist professors seeking to indoctrinate naive students into the dubious wonders of Marxism.

Of course, there are many good people there with various political views.

And, of course, there were good people in Germany in the past and now, along with the horrible folks who supported Hitler.

Such is the complexity of life we seek to explain to raw, young folks like Clown.

[Clownkicker]

As always, dimwitted johnforbes tries to dishonestly change his foolish assertions in the middle of his argument.

But he has still failed to provide any evidence whatsoever of "good people" arguing for the eradication of all Jews, or "good people" arguing for slavery, or of any "good people" arguing for sex trafficking.

Nobody ever claimed there were not good people in Germany at all periods of its history. Those people stood against the eradication of Jews. What I argued (and what coward johnforbes refuses to address) is that THERE ARE NO GOOD PEOPLE arguing for eradication of the Jews nor good people arguing for slavery nor for Death to America. And there was not a single "good person" in Charlottesville arguing for White supremacy nor for the flag that represents white supremacy, nor for wearing Third Reich swastikas. And there were no college liberals arguing for them either, despite johnforbes' lies. Not one.

johnforbes is standing by his position that there ARE good people arguing for the eradication of Jews, white supremacy, and death to America.

How he can claim such horrible things can only be accounted for by his vile, narrow minded conservative philosophy and politics. And that's why he votes Trump.

[johnforbes]

I'd like to thank Clown for his gracious admission that I have been totally correct on this thread (and of course elsewhere).

There are good people with different political views in Virginia and Germany.

Hopefully, Clown will go forward from this thread with better knowledge of the world.

[Clownkicker]

What johnforbes once again conveniently overlooks is that contrary to what Trump claimed, there were NOT good people on the side of racism and slavery in Charlottesville. There were NOT good people on both sides of the Stars and Bars argument because anyone who supports the Stars and Bars are supporting white supremacy and slavery.

They will continue to insist they aren't supporting those things, but they are because the Confederacy told us that that is what they supported and the Stars and Bars is the flag of the Confederacy.

Any supporter of the Stars and Bars is either racist or grossly ignorant of the racist nature of the symbol they support, even after people have told them what they are supporting.

Once again johnforbes refuses to confront the issue that we were actually talking about and simply yammers on about things nobody was saying.

There are not good people on both sides of this issue. johnforbes is living proof of that. By trying to minimize the serious nature of the issue, he is willfully, intentionally dishonest, and a partisan liar about it, which makes him a bad person.

[sillydaddy]

Of course, Clown knows you are right.....
The thing with Charlotteville was that Trump was saying the same thing the Left
had been saying in condemning his "Muslim ban"...
Muslims have been known through history that without a doubt they hate Jews...
Yet when the President announced his ban ... the Left went to court and argued
the ban was separating families and hurting innocent people, who historically hate Jews....
Hell, even Chuck Schummer a well known Jew, was crying for the Muslims...in effect saying there are good people on both sides...

[Clownkicker]

Charlottesville was not about Islam and Judaism, dimwit.

Nobody ever said that there were not good people on both sides of the religion issue, dimwit.

But nice attempt to divert from the fact that as a Trump supporter you support the racism and white supremacy of the Stars and Bars, just as Trump does.

[johnforbes]

Only the most superficial person would think the Civil War was solely about slavery.

It was about freedom -- the rights of states to become a part of a larger union, or not.

The modern Left is so obsessed with race, and racial division, and race-baiting, that it has become crazy.

[Clownkicker]

Only the most dishonest scumbag would pretend anyone claimed the Civil War was "solely" about slavery.

But those states that articulated their reasons for secession all said that it was largely about the problem of slavery; their "freedom" to own human beings. Their "freedom" not to be outvoted in Congress by those who (unlike johnforbes) saw slavery as an evil that could not be compromised with. Their "freedom" to open new states where slavery would be legal. Their "freedom" from people telling them that they didn't want more slave states in the existing union. Their "freedom" from people who saw slavery and white supremacy as being inconsistent with the Constitution.

Those who display the Confederate Flag today are supporting the same things. They want to be free from those who would stand in the way of their practice of white supremacy, people who find it revolting and inconsistent with the Constitution today just as it was in the 1800s. They want to be free from those who would tell them they can't be practicing bigots if they choose.

The modern Republican is so unconcerned with race, and racial division, and race-baiting, that today it is actually arguing in its favor, as johnforbes is doing, excusing those who want the "freedom" to practice their racism and white supremacy with impunity.

johnforbes has become crazy. He desperately needs to read the Constitution and try to stay on topic. He can't seem to address the issue of whether there were actually "good people" on both sides of the Confederate Flag issue in Charlottesville. He keeps diverting from the fact that he can't refute a thing I actually said. His only tact is to try to put words in my mouth instead.

[johnforbes]

On April 10, 1858, I made one of my most comprehensive posts on the Internet regarding slavery.

It read thusly:

"If war comes, it will be about the rights of states to secede. The Industrial Revolution will arrive in the South anyhow."

[Clownkicker]

^^^^^^^ Look at that weasel johnforbes slink away when he realizes he has been made to look the fool AGAIN.

johnny can never address the issues someone is talking about, so instead he diverts to some irrelevant off-topic nonsense he makes up.

Made up stupid shit--it's the Trump supporter's "go to" debate tactic.

[johnforbes]

Thank you for your fiery, mostly peaceful, and deeply moronic remarks.

[elklindo69]

Look's like the Trump boat is sinking......I wonder if Johnnie will jump ship or go down with the Trumptanic.

LOL

[Clownkicker]

"Conservatives do care , if a politicians tells a lie, we will not vote for them."-RealTool

What are these stupid fuckers going to do now when there is a recording of Trump admitting he lied to them all?

There's no way even dimwitted conservatives can vote for Trump now. That would make RealTool a liar too.

[johnforbes]

I don't know about the Titanic, but Clownslacker has gone down many times during his dark, dismal, demented, deviant days with the dregs of society in Frisco.

[elklindo69]

I'm not sure what is more deviant....

Johnnie felling wood at the local republican log cabin club or Trump ogling 15 girls on the tennis courts?

[sillydaddy]

The only crime I see here is...
Elk posing as a maverick...a master of the metaphor....

[elklindo69]

Apparently the real losers and suckers are the people who support Trump.

You know who you are...........

[johnforbes]

Buck up, Elkin.

Stop calling yourself a loser.

Sure, you are a sucker for voting for Basement Biden, but you can recover from that episode of insanity and go on to become a better person.

[elklindo69]

I find it refreshing that Joe Biden is coherent and in command of the facts and is not like the coked up squirrel president who will not commit to a peaceful transition of power....