[johnforbes]

On March 30, WHO recommended that people NOT wear masks unless they had covid or were caring for somebody sick.
"There is no specific evidence to suggest that the wearing of masks by the mass population has any potential benefit. In fact, there is some evidence to suggest the opposite in the misuse of wearing a mask properly or fitting it properly."

Dr Ryan went on to mention PPE shortage.

Dr Van Kerkove concurred that health care workers needed masks, but added:

"In the community, we do not recommend the use of wearing masks unless you yourself are sick..."

On March 31, the Surgeon General reiterated his advice to NOT wear a mask which he said could "actually increase your risk."

"What the World Health Organization and the CDC have reaffirmed in the last few days is that they do not recommend the general public wear masks."

He cited a 2015 study showing that med students touched their faces more when wearing masks (after touching a contaminated surface) than the non-masked. So mask adjustment might increase face touching.

Dr Adams mentioned the risk that mask wearing might lull wearers into a false sense of security about proximity to others.
"There may be a day when we change our recommendation...but the data is not there yet."

[johnforbes]

But please, not on bended knee.

Clown has spent way too much time in that posture...

[Clownkicker]

What johnforbes claimed and I disputed on another thread:
"On Mar 30, the WHO said there was no need for masks and this was no big deal."-johnfibs

He then produced this quotation here where the WHO does NOT say "there was no need for masks and this was no big deal."
"There is no specific evidence to suggest that the wearing of masks by the mass population has any potential benefit. In fact, there is some evidence to suggest the opposite in the misuse of wearing a mask properly or fitting it properly."

The quotation he produced does not say what he claimed they said. The quotation johnny provided merely said "there is no SPECIFIC EVIDENCE to suggest that the wearing of masks by THE MASS POPULATION has any potential benefit." It does not address the "need" for masks in the present at all.

In other words, johnforbes (being a willingly gullible partisan) was duped again by his inability to parse scientific jargon to understand what scientists are actually telling him. What they said (to keep dimwits like johnforbes calm) is that no one has specifically studied the wearing of masks by "the mass population" which of course they hadn't. So there is obviously no "specific evidence" to support a recommendation for "the mass population" to wear them. But the WHO obviously knew that everybody wearing masks would slow transmission of the virus. That's why care providers and sick people need to wear them and why the WHO now recommends them to everyone. At the time they just didn't want "the mass population" to take needed masks from frontline workers, exactly as I explained to dimwit johnny.

johnforbes failed to produce a quotation proving the WHO said "there was no need for masks and this was no big deal" either "precisely" or even vaguely.
While I thank johnforbes for providing the proof that he lied, I will accept his apology for telling that lie and humiliating himself repeatedly any time he wishes to render it.


What johnforbes claimed and I disputed on the other thread:
"On Mar 31, the Surgeon General said there was no need for masks and the threat was contained."

He then provided a quotation that did NOT show the SG saying "precisely" (or even remotely) that there was "no need for masks and that the threat was contained."
""What the World Health Organization and the CDC have reaffirmed in the last few days is that they do not recommend the general public wear masks."

This quotation says nothing at all about the "need" for masks but only makes a necessary recommendation with the purpose of preserving the supply of masks for frontline workers and sick people. It says nothing at all about the threat being contained.

I await a second apology from johnforbes for lying to us repeatedly about what the WHO and the SG said about masks. If johnny thinks they said those things, then why couldn't he produce quotations saying those things "precisely" or even vaguely? Instead, he offered the quotations I had already posted and explained to him why he was wrong.

[johnforbes]

As stated before, he said precisely what I said he said.

You have to watch the entire statement, of course, and I'm not going to type that out here word for word.

A simple apology will suffice.

[Clownkicker]

"As stated before, he said precisely what I said he said."-johnfibs

That has now become a wilful lie, johnny. You failed to produce any quotations supporting your claim; not even close. You certainly didn't produce anything saying "precisely" what you claimed, and you know it.

"You have to watch the entire statement, of course, and I'm not going to type that out here word for word."-johnfibs

Nobody wants the entire statement. I already produced all the relevant portions above and explained them to the dimwitted Trump supporters among us. So all you needed to do was post a single quotation saying "precisely" what you claimed he said. But you couldn't because he never said it, and you know it.


You're humiliating yourself, johnny. Just slink away already.

Otherwise, if you insist on further humiliation, an abject apology will suffice.

[johnforbes]

As stated before, he said precisely what I said he said.

You have to watch the entire statement, of course, and I'm not going to type that out here word for word.

A simple apology will suffice.

[Clownkicker]

What johnforbes is desperately trying and failing to say is that Clown will never apologize for johnny's failure to produce a shred of evidence to support his wilful lie.


But this is no surprise since we already know jonforbes lacks all integrity and denies any responsibility for his dishonestly.

He is, after all, a Trump supporter.

[johnforbes]

Please make the apology heartfelt.

As stated before, he said precisely what I said he said.

You have to watch the entire statement, of course, and I'm not going to type that out here word for word.

A simple apology will suffice, but please be sincere.

[elklindo69]

They certainly will not name an educational institution after Trump....so perhaps Trump will settle with having a virus named after him.

I'm wondering when this "hoax" will stop killing people?