[elklindo69]

[johnforbes]

Photoshopped.

And as fake as the Bubba noose.

[Clownkicker]

Only it isn't photoshopped, johnny. That photo is identical to a still from the longer video. Watch it for yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeDCrAkyuFA (Watch the first 40 seconds)

Look at his face from time stamp :30 to :40. Then tell us it was photoshopped, johnny.

Whatever allows a Trump supporter to remain in denial I guess....

[sillydaddy]

He will still get my vote...

[Clownkicker]

Of course he will get your vote, silly.

You clearly got Trump's message that he is the racist candidate. He uses all the secret codes and winks and knowing looks that you clowns use with each other in public.

As an admitted racist yourself, there is no one else for you to vote for.

[johnforbes]

Dementia is more common in women, but when it strikes a male -- like Biden or Clown --it is severe.

[Clownkicker]

And due to johnny's all-too-common Republican dementia, he is also going to vote for Trump along with the racists like sillydummy.

Sorry I made you face the reality of Trump's non-photoshopped walk, johnny. It was unkind, wasn't it.

Nobody should have to see such a pathetic man.

[johnforbes]

Photoshopped.

I rest my case.

[Clownkicker]

That's just it, johnny. You make up stupid shit like that without a shred of evidence to support it, and then you convince yourself it's true in the face of all contrary facts and reality.

No wonder you were unfit to practice law. You're incompetent. You rest your case before you even make a case.

[johnforbes]

Clown, you spent two years on a Russia hoax conspiracy theory when a child could have realized the dossier was fake.

A child could have realized the noose story was fake, but the leftist loons fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

[Clownkicker]

Whenever you make a fool of johnforbes, he can't ever refute what you said. He can only try to change the subject by pointing his finger elsewhere in a desperate attempt to make people think he wasn't made a fool of.

But he did made a fool of himself with his childish "photoshop" lie, and there's nothing he can do about it, no matter how much he distracts with "Obama" or "Hillary" or "Mueller" or anybody else he doesn't like. They have nothing to do with his partisan gullibility on this one. Trump DID drag his defeated ass home after his Tulsa humiliation. It's documented on authentic photos and video from multiple sources.

[sillydaddy]

I will vote for Trump...
and from what I learned this morning..
after all the bullshit.... so will John Bolton...

[johnforbes]

That pic Clown had had indeed been photoshopped.

But all it showed anyhow was a guy who took off his tie and the end of a long day and went back, doubtless seeking a showed and a Coca-Cola.

And, having led Clown yet again toward the light of sweet reason, I may get a refreshing sip of water myself before going out hiking.

[Clownkicker]

I give johnforbes the truth of a video, not a photo. I never "had" any photo. He ignores the video and all he can come back with is how he believes a photo does not represent the truth.

But the video shows the photo understates the truth. The video shows a tired, humiliated man.

johnforbes can't bear to see his hero embarrass himself the way he did, so he flails about desperately looking for some verbal loophole to dishonestly make him feel better about the truth that he abhors. johnny's self-delusion is the savior of one lacking integrity.

[sillydaddy]

Clown..the only one embarrassing himself, is you..
You're making a "mountain out of a molehill.."

[Clownkicker]

sillydummy..the only one embarrassing himself, is you..and johnforbes..and RealTool..
You're making a "big partisan pile of shit out of a regular old pile of shit.."

[johnforbes]

Clown, what you don't understand is life.

Sure, wearing a suit on a summer night and giving a long speech would leave any person in need of a shower and an ice tea.

After a long hike today on a hot, humid day, and after a lousy day in the market, even my lean, lithe body could use a shower.

However, you approach the next day with determination and vigor.

For example, more people viewed Trump's speech in Tulsa on Fox than ever in its history, and more than 12 million overall.

On the Democrat side, Biden hasn't spoken to the press in 82 days except carefully scripted questions.

Again, to be cheerful, Democrats will surely leak debate questions to Biden just as Donna Brazile did to Hillary.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, if you're too chickenshit to watch a simple video, just say so.

You don't have to keep yammering on about what EVERYONE (even you) can clearly see in the video.

[johnforbes]

But you are not watching a video.

Instead, you see through the corrective lens of partisan hate.

[Clownkicker]

That's completely untrue, johnny. I have no partisan hate like RealTool and sillydummy.

When I first saw the photo I wondered what the big deal was. It's just a picture of a guy at the end of a long day.

Ill-advised perhaps to be seen that way, given his political situation, but who cares? So it would have been smarter to retie his tie before leaving the ship.

But then I saw the video and was almost shocked to see his face as he crossed the lawn.

If you had bothered to watch the video, you would see what I saw. But you can't be bothered even after I provided a link to it. You're a partisan tool.

[johnforbes]

Fair enough, you are entitled to look at a photo or video and see whatever you want.

But the reality is that your interpretation was wrong because Trump got up the following day and pressed onward.

Isn't that what life is?

Having taken the hit of the November 2016 defeat, Obama and Biden sucked it up, considered their options, and by January 5 had settled on the strategy of railroading General Flynn and trying to destroy Trump's presidency by secret means.

[Clownkicker]

Reliably, johnforbes is entirely missing the point again.

It is not a matter of Trump feeling exhausted by another day at work. It is not a matter of him persevering and pressing onward. Of course he does.

I'm sure Trump has had dozens (if not hundreds) of days where he felt like that over his life. He faced many bankruptcies and business failures, he's been hundreds of millions in debt, he's run projects that walk the frightening line between success and disaster many times, and then he got up the next day and did it again.

But there is a difference this time. Sure, he got back up the next day. But that ignores the hard realities of life that he's facing.
Trump is 74 years old now, not 35. He doesn't have the stamina (mental or physical) he had when he was 35. Nobody does. He's taking on a job that is even more stressful than property development in New York City.

I'm sure johnforbes will pretend that he read The Art of War. But even if he did, he forgets the most basic concepts it discusses. One being that when you are weak, you appear strong, and when you are strong, you appear weak.

It is widely understood in the U.S. and around the world that Trump is not strong politically. So he understandably attempts to appear strong with silly high school pep rallies, surrounding himself with mindless, bleating acolytes. What Trump had to face on Saturday night was that he could no longer shore up his ridiculous public image by using his go-to childish ploys. The mobs of people just aren't going to show up any more. People watching TV are not the same thing. As johnforbes points out, "that's life." You keep going.

But what did Trump do in front of the world? He didn't just allow himself to APPEAR weak. In his trudge across the lawn, his mask came down and he allowed the world to see just how weak he actually IS. He did it in front of Putin and Kim and Erdogan and Duterte and Xi. I've never seen him like that and johnforbes has never seen him like that. I don't believe Trump would have ever allowed such a thing 20 years ago in his business dealings.

The job takes the same toll on everyone who holds it. You saw what it did to Johnson and Nixon and Carter and Clinton and W. Bush and Obama--- and now Trump. Without his hair dye and orange makeup we would see a wraith trembling in our midst or shuffling uncertainly down a ramp.

Presidents like Carter and Obama and Bush had family and real friends to support them at the end. Trump essentially has no one. He has thrown them under the bus or massacred the rest in the name of his ego. His wife won't touch him. His kids (other than Ivanka perhaps) are not close. His friends (if he ever really had any) are opportunists that don't really care for him personally. The only 'friends' he's likely to have are those he pardons of their crimes.

(Incidentally, Obama and Biden never faced defeat in 2016. They weren't running for President so they couldn't be defeated, could they. And Hillary won by 3 million votes, so they didn't even 'lose' by that standard. The Democrat Party was defeated by superior technical finagling, that's all.)

[johnforbes]

Of course, Obama and Biden were running in 2016.

Their core beliefs -- race-baiting and socialism -- were up for decision in 2016 and they both lost.

That is why, on Jan 5, 2017, Obama and Biden and Comey and Yates met in the Oval Office to discuss how to railroad Flynn.

Strzok's handwritten notes tell the tale -- they had embarked on a campaign to try to ruin Trump's presidency with packs of lies.

[Clownkicker]

^^^^^ Well, he may be grossly ignorant and plain wrong, but at least johnny finally responded to something I actually said.



Unfortunately, he couldn't respond to the relevant parts of my post; only its footnote. I gave him a dozen things he could try to refute or dispute but he's got nothin, as always.

[johnforbes]

That you for that unsolicited praise.

Like Clown, I have both respect and admiration for the posts of John Forbes.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, if your "respect and admiration for the posts of John Forbes" is "like" mine, then I have only one question:

Why do you hold yourself in such contempt?

Maybe it's because I have finally gotten through to you about the ugly truth of your dishonest partisan hypocrisy and intellectual impotence...

[johnforbes]

So you have a doctored pic of a guy on a hot night with his tie off, and because of your political bias you think that spells utter defeat?

Last weekend, Fox had its highest ever viewership of Trump's rally, and all told 12 million watched.

No doubt leftists buying fake tickets, and the media covid fear, caused some to not attend the live rally, but 12 million attended the virtual one.

Meanwhile, Biden drew 20 people to his PA event.

20.

[Clownkicker]

"No doubt leftists buying fake tickets, ..."-johnfibs

Criminy, johnny, NOBODY bought tickets for the Trump rally. Tickets were free, you imbecile.
Besides, they couldn't buy "fake" tickets unless Trump was SELLING fake tickets, could they? is that what you are accusing Trump of selling? Like it's a university or something?


"So you have a doctored pic of a guy on a hot night with his tie off,..."-johnfibs

Again, not only didn't I "have a doctored pic of a guy on a hot night with his tie off" but I didn't "have" any pic at all, you dishonest turd. I explained that to you and you repeated your lie anyway. But for some reason you ignore the video from several sources because it proves your lie, you partisan D-bag.
You can't make a case without making up stupid shit, like ALL Trump supporters do.


"...and the media covid fear, ..."-johnfibs

johnny, it's not a "media covid fear". It's an ACTUAL covid threat. Eight people in the Trump advance team come down with COVID-19, turd boy. It is a fact. The campaign itself said so. And the virus is a serious threat to the Trump demographic (though admittedly most of them are too stupid to grasp it.)


"Meanwhile, Biden drew 20 people to his PA event."-johnflubs

It's surprising that you would admit that Biden's supporters are smarter than typical Trump supporters.

[johnforbes]

By "bought" of course I intended the concept of "reserved."

As to the rest, Trump's Tulsa rally broke a record for viewers at Fox and total viewers were 12 million on Fox and elsewhere.

Biden did draw 20 people in Darby, PA.

[elklindo69]

1,000,000 down to 12,000 up to 12,000,000.

And yes...John Forbes has just dumped another steaming pile of bullshit today....Thanks for listening to my TED talk for today.

[johnforbes]

These are simple facts:

Trump's Tulsa rally broke a record for viewers at Fox and total viewers were 12 million on Fox and elsewhere.

Biden did draw 20 people in Darby, PA

[elklindo69]

Trump: "We are proud of the fact that our country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles."

Wait until MAGA finds out what 'Judeo' stands for....