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#124190
A Chicago hospital treating severe Covid-19 patients with Gilead Sciences’ antiviral medicine remdesivir in a closely watched clinical trial is seeing rapid recoveries in fever and respiratory symptoms, with nearly all patients discharged in less than a week, STAT has learned.

Remdesivir was one of the first medicines identified as having the potential to impact SARS-CoV-2, the novel coronavirus that causes Covid-19, in lab tests. The entire world has been waiting for results from Gilead’s clinical trials, and positive results would likely lead to fast approvals by the Food and Drug Administration and other regulatory agencies. If safe and effective, it could become the first approved treatment against the disease.

The University of Chicago Medicine recruited 125 people with Covid-19 into Gilead’s two Phase 3 clinical trials. Of those people, 113 had severe disease. All the patients have been treated with daily infusions of remdesivir.

“The best news is that most of our patients have already been discharged, which is great. We’ve only had two patients perish,” said Kathleen Mullane, the University of Chicago infectious disease specialist overseeing the remdesivir studies for the hospital.

Her comments were made this week during a video discussion about the trial results with other University of Chicago faculty members. The discussion was recorded and STAT obtained a copy of the video.

The outcomes offer only a snapshot of remdesivir’s effectiveness. The same trials are being run concurrently at other institutions, and it’s impossible to determine the full study results with any certainty. Still, no other clinical data from the Gilead studies have been released to date, and excitement is high. Last month, President Trump touted the potential for remdesivir — as he has for many still-unproven treatments — and said it “seems to have a very good result.”

In a statement Thursday, Gilead said: “What we can say at this stage is that we look forward to data from ongoing studies becoming available.”

Gilead had said to expect results for its trial involving severe cases in April. Mullane said during her presentation that data for the first 400 patients in the study would be “locked” by Gilead Thursday, meaning that results could come any day.

Mullane, while encouraged by the University of Chicago data, made clear her own hesitancy about drawing too many conclusions.

“It’s always hard,” she said, because the severe trial doesn’t include a placebo group for comparison. “But certainly when we start [the] drug, we see fever curves falling,” she said. “Fever is now not a requirement for people to go on trial, we do see when patients do come in with high fevers, they do [reduce] quite quickly. We have seen people come off ventilators a day after starting therapy. So, in that realm, overall our patients have done very well.”

She added: “Most of our patients are severe and most of them are leaving at six days, so that tells us duration of therapy doesn’t have to be 10 days. We have very few that went out to 10 days, maybe three,” she said.

Reached by STAT, Mullane confirmed the authenticity of the footage but declined to comment further.

Asked about the data, Eric Topol, director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute, described them as “encouraging.”

“The severely hit patients are at such high-risk of fatality. So if it’s true that many of the 113 patients were in this category and were discharged, it’s another positive signal that the drug has efficacy,” he said, adding that it will be important to see more data from randomized controlled studies.

Gilead’s severe Covid-19 study includes 2,400 participants from 152 different clinical trial sites all over the world. Its moderate Covid-19 study includes 1,600 patients in 169 different centers, also all over the world.

The trial is investigating five- and 10-day treatment courses of remdesivir. The primary goal is a statistical comparison of patient improvement between the two treatment arms. Improvement is measured using a seven-point numerical scale that encompasses death (at worst) and discharge from hospital (best outcome), with various degrees of supplemental oxygen and intubation in between.

The lack of a control arm in the study could make interpreting the results more challenging.

A lack of data has led to yo-yoing expectations for the drug. Two studies in China had enrollment suspended partway through because there were not enough patients available. A recent report of patients given the drug under a special program to make it available to those who are very ill generated both excitement and skepticism.

In scientific terms, all the data are anecdotal until the full trial reads out, meaning that they should not be used to draw final conclusions. But some of the anecdotes are dramatic.

Slawomir Michalak, a 57-year-old factory worker from a suburb west of Chicago, was among the participants in the Chicago study. One of his daughters started feeling ill in late March and was later diagnosed with mild Covid-19. Michalak, by contrast, came down with a high fever and reported shortness of breath and severe pain in his back.

“It felt like someone was punching me in the lungs,” he told STAT.

At his wife’s urging, Michalak went to the University of Chicago Medicine hospital on Friday, April 3. His fever had spiked to 104 and he was struggling to breath. At the hospital, he was given supplemental oxygen. He also agreed to participate in Gilead’s severe Covid-19 clinical trial.

His first infusion of remdesivir was on Saturday, April 4. “My fever dropped almost immediately and I started to feel better,” he said.

By his second dose on Sunday, Michalak said he was being weaned off oxygen. He received two more daily infusions of remdesivir and recovered enough to be discharged from the hospital on Tuesday, April 7.

“Remdesivir was a miracle,” he said.

The world is waiting to find out if it is really so.

#124223
Hydroxychloroquine is not effective and not safe for people who are infected with COVID-19 . Multiple independent studies conducted in France, China and Brazil proved it.

As a matter of fact in the Brazilian study a number of patients who were administered the drug developed heart problems and they had to alter the trial after 2 weeks. Then they just said forget about it.....and shut it down.

The studies out of France and China did not show the drug to be effective. If it were effective then Trump would have been taking a victory lap with a bullhorn telling everybody how he was 'right'
#124230
Hydroxychloroquine, the 65-year-old malaria drug that President Donald Trump has praised, appeared not to help patients get rid of the pathogen in a small study.

The pill didn’t help patients clear the virus better than standard care and was much more likely to cause side effects, according to a study of 150 hospitalized patients by doctors at 16 centers in China. The research, which hasn’t been peer-reviewed, was released Tuesday.

The drug did help alleviate some clinical symptoms of Covid-19, however, and the patients who took it showed a greater drop in C-reactive protein, a measure of inflammation.

“When testing new treatments, we are looking for signals that show that they might be effective before proceeding to larger studies,” said Allen Cheng, an infectious diseases physician and a professor of epidemiology at Melbourne’s Monash University. “This study doesn’t show any signal, so it is probably unlikely that it will be of clinical benefit.”

There were more side effects in the group of 75 people who took hydroxychloroquine, but they were mostly mild, the most common being diarrhea. The researchers, led by Wei Tang of Ruijin Hospital in Shanghai, wrote that the medicine’s anti-inflammatory effects probably helped alleviate patients’ symptoms.

More studies of hydroxychloroquine are underway after the medicine made headlines in recent weeks and was endorsed by Trump.

“The results of those studies will be of interest,” Cheng said.
#124238
and now we find out the demorats are harboring deformed children for a sex ring operating under the secret hospital tents. man that deep state really hates trump. planned it all the way around the world and back. fuck me runnin' !

just how gullible are these people? wait for it, here comes john. going to tell us ad nauseam how fit he is, how super educated he is how wonderful his HS debate letter sweater looks in his moth house drawer. quick deflect our attention with some russian freedom news.

elklindo69 gives news of a possible solution and the right wing so adept at passing pure crap stick to their approved faux entertainment propaganda of HCQ. do you feel so safe as to go lick some door handles? NO you don't. and why is that? maybe your brain really works and you know better. so why is it that you are quite willing to endanger others. do you superior manly sperm banks think you are already forgiven buy some 2000 year old magic?

my surgeon, PA, RN, LPN friends and neighbors are all saying this ain't no Bull shit. now lets see, just one last time. do i trust faux entertainment? a land mass elected multi-daily-lying leader with direct russian connections? alex jones? . or professionals?

here's a health tip:
practice and share your didgeridoo. and good luck...
#124250
Dr Phil and Dr. Oz were promoting Hydroxycholoroquine on Fox News.

Trump is claiming the USA is the "King of Ventilators."

Then you have Stephen Moore claiming that the individuals as shown below are the modern day Rosa Parks?

It seems as if conservatives are breaking new ground in going barking batshit bonkers on a daily basis.

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#124259
Apparently so.

Democrat governors, drunk on power, want the lockdown to continue.

The original aim was to flatten the curve and not overwhelm hospitals, and that was achieved.

2.5 million Americans die every year, so the coronavirus toll of 41k is not huge.

600k die of ht disease and another 600k of cancer, but we don't ruin the economy for that.
#124263
Again, unlike COVID-19, heart disease and cancer are not contagious and thus, unlike COVID-19, not a threat to the general public that can be mitigated by social distancing, dimwit. Only a Trump supporter would consider that analogy to make any sense.

And the proof of that statement is that I pointed out your stupidity on this already, and then you repeated it here anyway.
That's because you are an incorrigible Trump supporter. (I know, that's redundant.)
#124267
Oh, I agree the potential was there.

Given the 2.2 million projection from Dr Ferguson from Imperial, I woulda shut down the country too. But opened it after the curve was flattened and hospitals NOT overwhelmed.

The imperial estimates were revised downward -- dramatically.

We now have a virus which transmits very easily, but is not very lethal unless you are the typical person to die of or with coronavirus -- a person of 79 or 80 years, obese, and diabetic.
#124273
But because we don't yet have adequate nationwide testing, we can't know for sure that the curve is actually flattened. Or if it is, WHERE is it flattened and where is it not yet flattened? Where should things open up and where should it not?

The job of widespread testing is the responsibility of the Federal government. That's the only way to get enough supplies manufactured and shipped to every state, and to see that the criteria in all states are identical in order to have meaningful and useful data.
#124282
If we had an ideal world, yes.

The CDC was horribly unprepared for this.

Homeland "Security" not only doesn't know to the nearest million how many illegal aliens are wandering around, but they never thought of stockpiling sanitizer, masks, gloves, or cheap malaria drugs.

Apparently nobody at the Red Cross did either.

Fauci and Birx and the governors didn't even know that, ever since the Civil War, fresh air and sunshine have been deemed helpful to cope with pandemic influenza.

It took a French doctor, Didier Raoult, to even realize the time was ripe to test HCQ while he had plenty of patients.

Thankfully, Dr Ionnides at Stanford was awake and decided to also test randomly to see what percentage of people had antibodies.

In the 6 weeks Fauci spent dismissing HCQ, he could have done a clinical trial of it. Did he do that or was he too busying doing interviews on CNN?
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