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By johnforbes
#122604
Tomeka Hart revealed Wednesday that she was the foreperson of the jury that convicted former Trump adviser Roger Stone on obstruction charges last year -- and soon afterward, her history of Democratic activism and a string of her anti-Trump and Left Wing social media posts came to light.

Hart even posted specifically about the Stone case before she was selected to sit on the jury, as she retweeted an argument mocking those who considered Stone's dramatic arrest in a predawn raid by a federal tactical team to be excessive force. She also suggested President Trump and his supporters are racist and praised the investigation conducted by Robert Mueller which led to Stone's prosecution.

Judge Amy Berman Jackson had denied a defense request to strike a potential juror who was Obama-era press official with admitted anti-Trump views -- and whose husband worked at the same Justice Department division that handled the probe leading to Stone's arrest. And, another Stone juror, Seth Cousins, donated to former Democratic presidential candidate Beto O'Rourke and other progressive causes.

No matter where anybody stands on politics, you cannot have very biased jurors serving like this, and the judge did a horrible (or intentionally bad) judge of assessing the potential bias of the jurors.

Prediction: This will result in a new trial, and a decision will be made to not prosecute again.

What a horrible portrait of a "justice system."
By johnforbes
#122607
I don't know if this person made it to the final jury, but there was even a person linked to media operations in the Obama White House.

There are procedures to get a judge off a case, and it would certainly appear that the judge (who imposed a gag order on Stone to keep him quiet) either lost control of the case or wanted Stone in prison.

So the foreman of the jury was a Democrat who ran for Congress, made a lot of anti-Trump remarks including references to the Klan, and she was supposedly a neutral juror?

This is beyond ridiculous, and all because Democrats have hated Stone who goes all the way back to the Nixon era.
#122609
So johnforbes suggests that Stone could never be tried. That's nuts.

You can't find a jury where nobody ever contributed to any party. If you exclude all those who contributed to Democrats, that leaves only those who contributed to Republicans, and that would be just as unfair. johnny knows this but simply omits the fact because he is a typical partisan hypocrite.

Also, in that part of the country it is problematic to find people who haven't worked in government for one party or the other. You get to chose from whomever is randomly called. It's the same for everyone.

This is NOT beyond ridiculous. It's our system. If you don't like it, you can lump it.

Notice johnforbes can't provide any evidence that Stone isn't guilty of the crimes he was charged with. This is because Stone did commit those crimes. But johnforbes wants everyone who tampered with witnesses and lied in Trump's favor to walk free. That's how partisan johnforbes is.
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By RealJustme
#122610
This is NOT beyond ridiculous. It's our system. If you don't like it, you can lump it.
No it's not our current system to stack the deck against someone you want to get revenge on, that was under Obama and his hold overs, but now they are being called out for it. Trump really should send SWAT to everyone of their homes for 5am raids, like then Stone who was only 'suspect" if they have nothing to hide then they shouldn't mind. I'm serious he should do the raids, sure Democrats will melt down, but what's new?
By Clownkicker
#122614
Oh, RealTool has evidence that the jury pool was stacked. He should immediately send this evidence to the Justice Department to be investigated.

But he won't because it's all made up stupid shit. Barr didn't reference any such alleged bias on the jury. Even johnforbes, who brought this to our attention, doesn't have any evidence that the jury pool was stacked somehow against Stone.

RealTool should also inquire as to why Stone's defense team didn't dismiss a prospective juror with so much alleged bias.
On top of that, even if you can show some debatable bias against Trump, that does nothing to show any bias against Stone, does it. Stone was on trial, not Trump.
By Clownkicker
#122615
By the way, Tool, they raided Stone's house with a warrant. Trump can't simply raid the homes of Democrats without warrants, dimwit. That's what Banana Republic dictators do.

And he can't tell Barr to trump up warrants against Democrats either. There needs to be a legal probable cause.

Why do you hate the Constitution so much, Tool?
By johnforbes
#122620
Who leaked to CNN to coordinate the Stone raid?

Why over 20 armed officers, plus a boat and a frogman and a chopper, to arrest an unarmed elderly fellow at dawn while his wife was home recovering from surgery?

Look, we all know this was a political stunt staged to make Repubs look bad.

And that is no doubt why this extremely biased Democrat, who ran for Congress and referred to Trump supporters as Klan members, was the foreman of the jury.

At bare minimum, the judge denied Stone a fair trial by either not checking jurors properly.

Let's hope she was at least making some minimalistic effort to be fair and was just incompetent.

She reportedly supported Hillary, but let's hope things have not gotten that bad...
By Clownkicker
#122624
What johnforbes MEANT to say is, he's got nothin'.

You're welcome.

johnforbes does like to blather on, however. Innuendo is all he ever requires as proof of every conspiracy theory his handlers come up with. But actual EVIDENCE? PSHAW!!...
By elklindo69
#122625
If there is anybody out there who believes a single word that comes out of the mouth of the carnival barker clown of a president and his hand-picked goon at the DOJ....well then I have six bankrupt casinos in Atlantic City to sell you.
By johnforbes
#122628
So Elkin, if the political party here was reversed, you'd be happy to have a Republican judge and 3 very biased Republicans on the jury, and then a Democrat would serve 9 years in prison for lying to Congress?

Come on, Elkin, this is corruption worthy of a Banana Republic, and makes a mockery of the notion that we have a "justice" system.
#122630
Yes, johnny, if he lied to Congress he should go to jail. What part of "law and order" is too difficult for you?

There isn't the slightest question that Stone lied. Even you know he lied.

Why are you trying to make excuses for him?
By elklindo69
#122636
I suppose the wealthy white man Stone who was found guilty of obstruction , perjury and witness tampering is real lucky to have a carnival barking felony factory on two legs as president..........and not some black dude who was selling cigarettes on some street corner in the city because you can get in a lot of trouble for that shit.........
By johnforbes
#122670
Clapper clearly lied to Congress, and you'd almost surely have to lump in Brennan as well.

But they will NEVER even be charged because important Democrats always skate free.

McCabe clearly lied under oath at least THREE TIMES, and the Democrat IG said so, but of course he skated away totally free as an important Democrat.

I favor EQUAL -- focus on the word -- application of the law, not SELECTIVE "justice."
By johnforbes
#122701
My diligent staffers searched far and wide, and they located this sage verbiage:

Clapper clearly lied to Congress, and you'd almost surely have to lump in Brennan as well.

But they will NEVER even be charged because important Democrats always skate free.

McCabe clearly lied under oath at least THREE TIMES, and the Democrat IG said so, but of course he skated away totally free as an important Democrat.

I favor EQUAL -- focus on the word -- application of the law, not SELECTIVE "justice."
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