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By lumpster
#10421
Egyptian President Mohamed Morsy has removed the country's top two military officers and rescinded a June decree by the generals that kept lawmaking powers in their hands, his office announced Sunday.

Field Marshal Mohammed Hussein Tantawi -- the defense minister who took power after the 2011 ouster of longtime strongman Hosni Mubarak -- and the military chief of staff, Lt. Gen. Sami Anan, "will be sent to retirement," Morsy spokesman Yasser Ali said Sunday evening on state-run Nile Television. Tantawi and Anan have been appointed as advisers to Morsy, the country's first elected president, but no details of the new posts were announced.

In addition, the government has reversed a June constitutional decree by the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces that claimed to retain legislative authority until a new parliament could be sworn in near the end of the year, Ali said.


http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/12/world/mea ... ?hpt=wo_c1

The military is the only things that was keeping him in check but if he takes over the military they will go to war with Israel and the only thing that will stop that is to take out Egypt President and regain control of the country..
#10440
Not only can you not compose a grammatically correct or properly spelled statement, you still seem to think Hussein MaoBamma has a chance to win a second term.
Once again, you are wrong about everything.

How do you manage to hold a job?

Wait, I think I know.

Sorry.
By Leroy
#10506
It's a sad day in this country when the same liberals that complained about Nation Building under a Republican President don't complain about a democrat president helping to overthrow foreign governments and giving control to radical Islamic terror groups like Obama has done.
By Leroy
#10603
Interesting how none of the fascists (liberals) can condemn the actions of an American President working to over-throw a foreign government, getting thousands of innocent people killed in the process, and all without congressional approval, because he's a Democrat.
#10630
Leroy
Insted of complaining of what or why liberials/progressives or "fascists"( using your words ) won't come on and talk about this, what are your thoughts of what should, or should not be done.
Sorry to say this but when ya call anyone or party words such as "Fascists, why would you expect any honest or polite dialect in return?
By Leroy
#10633
Maybe you missed this way up top in the thread:
Leroy wrote:I wonder why the liberals/progressives aren't screaming as Obama helps eliminate another leader of a country?
I have to ask again, why is it that liberals crucified Bush when he went to war with Congressional Approval, but, when Obama has foreign leaders deposed, even uses are war machine to do it, liberals are silent?
By Leroy
#10634
One other thing, let me help you with the Wiki meaning of the word Fascist: the word fascist is intended to mean "oppressive", "intolerant", "chauvinist", "genocidal", "dictatorial", "racist", or "aggressive"

In the case of liberals/progressives, they clearly use and support those things, all of them, and we can prove it by watching MSNBC, NPR, and most "liberal" news groups as well as the confirmed liberals/progressives in this group.
#10641
Well Leroy
You asked why peole arn't answering your question. I gave you an opinion why. Do with it what you will, you know you used the word" Fascist" as a derogatory term. I'm not on here for word play, I would rather read people's thoughts and opinions on a given subject.
By Leroy
#10667
justdoit wrote:Well Leroy
You asked why peole arn't answering your question. I gave you an opinion why. Do with it what you will, you know you used the word" Fascist" as a derogatory term. I'm not on here for word play, I would rather read people's thoughts and opinions on a given subject.
Are you telling me that you don't believe the word "Fascist" isn't negative when talking about others?

The people that complained about Bush doing things are not complaining about Obama doing far worse, and the fact of the matter is that they won't get into a discussion about it because they know that they would have to admit they were wrong, that they are hypocrites, that they are dishonest/liars - that they are also Fascists.
#10839
Leroy wrote:Maybe you missed this way up top in the thread:
Leroy wrote:I wonder why the liberals/progressives aren't screaming as Obama helps eliminate another leader of a country?
I have to ask again, why is it that liberals crucified Bush when he went to war with Congressional Approval, but, when Obama has foreign leaders deposed, even uses are war machine to do it, liberals are silent?

I thought you said Obama hates America ? And here he is killing Bin Laden within 4 years, killing terrorist leaders, ordering drone strikes against terrorist inside Pakistan without giving the fuck what Pakistanis complain of us invading their airspace, deposing dictators in the middle east.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Anybody remember years ago when Republicans lie and accused him of hanging out with terrorist. Turns out republicans lied on that one as evidence of what Obama is doing to killing the terrorist....Remember Sarah Palin 4 years ago saying Obama was hanging pals around with terrorist ? :lol: :lol: :lol:

See how dirty liars republicans are ? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Obama loves America he is just smart and way intelligent than Bush in killing the terrorist. Bush was all megaphone talk while Obama speaks softly but carries a big stick...
By Leroy
#10846
themission1428 wrote:
Leroy wrote:Maybe you missed this way up top in the thread:
Leroy wrote:I wonder why the liberals/progressives aren't screaming as Obama helps eliminate another leader of a country?
I have to ask again, why is it that liberals crucified Bush when he went to war with Congressional Approval, but, when Obama has foreign leaders deposed, even uses are war machine to do it, liberals are silent?

I thought you said Obama hates America ? And here he is killing Bin Laden within 4 years, killing terrorist leaders, ordering drone strikes against terrorist inside Pakistan without giving the fuck what Pakistanis complain of us invading their airspace, deposing dictators in the middle east.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Anybody remember years ago when Republicans lie and accused him of hanging out with terrorist. Turns out republicans lied on that one as evidence of what Obama is doing to killing the terrorist....Remember Sarah Palin 4 years ago saying Obama was hanging pals around with terrorist ? :lol: :lol: :lol:

See how dirty liars republicans are ? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Obama loves America he is just smart and way intelligent than Bush in killing the terrorist. Bush was all megaphone talk while Obama speaks softly but carries a big stick...
Except that Obama had passed on Killing UBL three times, that Obama DOES support terrorists/groups because HE'S HAD THEM REMOVED FROM THE TERRORIST WATCH LIST - Hillary, a member of his team, even has a terrorists sister working for her - and lets not forget how Obama bends over backwards to give Terrorist Connected groups special access to the White House and our Military.

As for the drones, that was authorized and in place well before Obama took office.

Got anything credible, yea, didn't think so, you're just diverting and misdirecting and lying again.
#10862
I thought you said Obama hates America ? And here he is killing Bin Laden within 4 years, killing terrorist leaders, ordering drone strikes against terrorist inside Pakistan without giving the fuck what Pakistanis complain of us invading their airspace, deposing dictators in the middle east
Actually the military killed Bin Laden "despite" Obama. The military carried out drone strikes "despite" Obama.

If McCain had won in 2008 the wars in Iraq and Afgan would have been over long ago and he would have supported the overthrow of Iran in 2009, there would be no nuclear threat to peace. Egypt and Libya would still be under the control of moderates instead of Muslim extremist and their Sharia Laws...and before anyone brings it up the war in Iraq was won by Bush and then lost by Obama; it is far from over we've just retreated, Iraq is already exchanging weapons with Iran and soon the two will be joining forces with Afgan plus Libya to take the United States on. All with the help of Obama, one must ask why he helped build this powerful assemply of Anti-American Middle East Armies.
By Leroy
#10868
RealJustme wrote: Actually the military killed Bin Laden "despite" Obama. The military carried out drone strikes "despite" Obama.

If McCain had won in 2008 the wars in Iraq and Afgan would have been over long ago and he would have supported the overthrow of Iran in 2009, there would be no nuclear threat to peace. Egypt and Libya would still be under the control of moderates instead of Muslim extremist and their Sharia Laws...and before anyone brings it up the war in Iraq was won by Bush and then lost by Obama; it is far from over we've just retreated, Iraq is already exchanging weapons with Iran and soon the two will be joining forces with Afgan plus Libya to take the United States on. All with the help of Obama, one must ask why he helped build this powerful assemply of Anti-American Middle East Armies.
Too bad we don't have a LIKE button in the forum.
#10880
RealJustme wrote:
I thought you said Obama hates America ? And here he is killing Bin Laden within 4 years, killing terrorist leaders, ordering drone strikes against terrorist inside Pakistan without giving the fuck what Pakistanis complain of us invading their airspace, deposing dictators in the middle east
Actually the military killed Bin Laden "despite" Obama. The military carried out drone strikes "despite" Obama.

If McCain had won in 2008 the wars in Iraq and Afgan would have been over long ago and he would have supported the overthrow of Iran in 2009, there would be no nuclear threat to peace. Egypt and Libya would still be under the control of moderates instead of Muslim extremist and their Sharia Laws...and before anyone brings it up the war in Iraq was won by Bush and then lost by Obama; it is far from over we've just retreated, Iraq is already exchanging weapons with Iran and soon the two will be joining forces with Afgan plus Libya to take the United States on. All with the help of Obama, one must ask why he helped build this powerful assemply of Anti-American Middle East Armies.

And who gave the military orders to kill the terrorist ? just by themselves ? If yes, then why didn't they go to China ? Remember when George Bush was newly elected and before 911 his administration was targeting China ? Our plane crashed in China early in his presidency and he and other so called military hawks (cheney, rumsfield, etc) were chest pounding against China.

After 911 China was our "friend" because we have to focus on the islamic terrorists. And the fact is that our plane went down in China and we never said a word against them after 911. Bush shifted his target to the islamic terrorist not the communist China anymore.

The president calls the direction including with the military on what he wants to do with his presidency. If the military just want to do what they want then we would be like third world country where there are constant coup de tat my the military so they can rule this country.

And You just said it yourself in your post above " If John McCain won in 2008...." :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
By Leroy
#10894
themission1428 wrote: And who gave the military orders to kill the terrorist ? just by themselves ? If yes, then why didn't they go to China ? Remember when George Bush was newly elected and before 911 his administration was targeting China ? Our plane crashed in China early in his presidency and he and other so called military hawks (cheney, rumsfield, etc) were chest pounding against China.
To directly answer your question "And who gave the military orders to kill the terrorist ?" - President Bush did, and it's a standing order, but it only covers where we have active operations, so they could not go into China as you wonder.
#10935
RealJustme wrote:
Obama should get credit for the drone attacks, the buck stops with him.
LOL, I thought I would never hear that the bucks stop with the President from a liberal. You made my day dude. :D
You mean when George Bush got the daily presidential briefing while he was in Texas that the US will be attack by the Islamic terrorist and yet didn't take responsibility. Instead George Bush continued cutting trees while John Ashcroft was busy going against pornography. Even Condeleeza Rice testified in congress that they received the presidential briefing and knew about the impending threat. Talking about taking responsibility.

Only in a republican administration the greatest attack in American history happened. And the president was warned about it, he got it writing as well during his DAILY presidential briefing.

Republicans don't like to accept 911 happened on their watch but they have no problems taking credit that they killed Bin Laden even though it was Obama who gave the go signal for the operation to be carried out. Nice try buddy...
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Buddy...have you heard of Romney being interviewed saying that GM should go bankrupt because there is no other way but later took credit when GM came back ? Yeah....talking about republicans taking responsibility. :lol: :lol: :lol:
#10936
Leroy wrote:
themission1428 wrote: And who gave the military orders to kill the terrorist ? just by themselves ? If yes, then why didn't they go to China ? Remember when George Bush was newly elected and before 911 his administration was targeting China ? Our plane crashed in China early in his presidency and he and other so called military hawks (cheney, rumsfield, etc) were chest pounding against China.
To directly answer your question "And who gave the military orders to kill the terrorist ?" - President Bush did, and it's a standing order, but it only covers where we have active operations, so they could not go into China as you wonder.

So you mean republicans have no problems lying for Bush taking credit on killing Bin Laden because of his standing order but republicans don't admit that it was Bush fault why 911 happened ? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Bush could write a standing order that continues even he is not president ? Wow...what a foresight/intelligence. So this standing order will continue 100 years from now ? :lol: :lol: :lol:

But Bush didn't have the intelligence or foresight to give also a standing order for 911 NOT to happen. He was given the information that islamic terrorist would attack the US in his DAILY PRESIDENTIAL BRIEFING both in person and in writing. But he didn't give a standing order ?

Let's see.

Bush didn't give a standing order in order to prevent 911 even though he received highly accurate and credible information that Islamic terrorist will attack the US.

But he predicted that Bin Laden will be killed under President Obama not under his watch so he wrote a standing order so that republicans like Leroy can give him credit. And by the way, he also took funding out and closed down the task force that was tracking Bin Laden. Remember ? He even said at that time that he didn't care where Bin Laden is and that he is not that important anymore to him. Remember that statement ?

Also he didn't give a standing order to avoid the damage cost by Katrina even though he knew Katrina will be hitting hard Louisiana. He was briefed weeks in advance about the impending storm thru a whole day briefing given to him.

Darn... your lies Leroy just don't make sense... :lol: :lol: :lol:
#10972
Just yesterday Obama mentioned Bush didn't handle Katrina correctly, he failed to over ride the Louisiana Gov and declare martial law so that the Feds could have taken over the operation prior to the hurricane struck. Looks like Obama now has his chance to back up his mouth, any bets if Obama will declare martial law and send in the Feds to take control if the Louisaina Gov. tell Obama just like they did Bush they didn't want Feds in control???
By Leroy
#10974
You know the funny thing about TM1428, he doesn't know that Louisiana had a clear and documented disaster plan for a disaster like Katrina, that it was on their website, even after the disaster, and they didn't follow it, they didn't do most of what was on the disaster plan, not before and not after the disaster. This is typical of liberal/democrat control - they have the answers all around them, but they are not smart enough to use those answers.

Lets not forget all of the gun confiscations that happened, to protect the roving bands of criminals from the law-abiding citizens that remained of their own choice. Most of those confiscated guns have not been returned to the owners. Another liberal/democrat failure (or success considering they are anti-gun).
#10989
Leroy wrote:You really are a complete dumbass tm1428, a complete dumbass.

You gave us 911. Republicans hate this country because of a republican president 911 happened in this country. He was briefed about it. He knew we will be attack. He had the Presidential Daily Briefing (PDB). And yet, 911 happened.

And you giving Bush credit for killing Bin Laden. If Romney wins, the chance is higher that another big tragedy will happen in this country. Specially that he is getting money from communist China as campaign donation from Adelson who owns casino in Macau China. Those money are gambling money mixed with Chinese mafia.

Just as Bush and Cheney has oil business in the middle East. 911 happened under a republican president. We will be less secure if Romney wins. Leroy is not a patriot but an ideologue. He is a republican first and american second.
By Leroy
#10990
themission1428 wrote:
Leroy wrote:You really are a complete dumbass tm1428, a complete dumbass.

You gave us 911. Republicans hate this country because of a republican president 911 happened in this country. He was briefed about it. He knew we will be attack. He had the Presidential Daily Briefing (PDB). And yet, 911 happened.

snip
Actually, Clinton gave US 9/11, but you keep buying that shit the democrats are telling you. The simple fact is that the Intel people had been warning about an ON SOIL attack for a long time, passing this information to their seniors, but, a Clinton carry-over staffer was removing them from the PDB's because, like Clinton's administration, they didn't believe it could happen.

9/11 was staged, planned, and put in place on Clinton's watch, and it was Clinton people left on after Bush took office that downplayed the threat until 9/11 happened.

As I said, you're an idiot, you're a liar, you are dishonest and a stain on the board, and you prove it each time you post.

What have you got to say about Obama ordering and orchestrating the overthrow of several governments leaders to allow control by Islamic Terror groups that have sworn to destroy the USA?
#10999
Leroy wrote:
themission1428 wrote:
Leroy wrote:You really are a complete dumbass tm1428, a complete dumbass.

You gave us 911. Republicans hate this country because of a republican president 911 happened in this country. He was briefed about it. He knew we will be attack. He had the Presidential Daily Briefing (PDB). And yet, 911 happened.

snip
Actually, Clinton gave US 9/11, but you keep buying that shit the democrats are telling you. The simple fact is that the Intel people had been warning about an ON SOIL attack for a long time, passing this information to their seniors, but, a Clinton carry-over staffer was removing them from the PDB's because, like Clinton's administration, they didn't believe it could happen.

9/11 was staged, planned, and put in place on Clinton's watch, and it was Clinton people left on after Bush took office that downplayed the threat until 9/11 happened.

As I said, you're an idiot, you're a liar, you are dishonest and a stain on the board, and you prove it each time you post.

What have you got to say about Obama ordering and orchestrating the overthrow of several governments leaders to allow control by Islamic Terror groups that have sworn to destroy the USA?


hahaha....the biggest bullshit i have heard.

911 happened under George Bush....
Republicans/Leroy : Not Bush's fault

Bush was briefed about the impending attack during his Presidential Daily Briefing (PDB) which was confirmed by Condeleeza Rice in a sworn testimony in congress to both republicans and democrats live on national TV.....

Republicans/Leroy : Bush was not informed. Clinton erased it in the PDB.

Pres. Obama gave the green light to go to Pakistan and killed Bin Laden.
Republicans/Leroy : Bush wrote the standing order to kill Bin Laden.

George Bush dismantled the anti-terrorist unit to look for Bin Laden during his term.
Republicans/Leroy : Bush is going after Bin Laden.

hahaha....I just couldn't fathom how shameful it is for republicans to take credit for something they didn't do but don't take responsibility for their own failures.
It's like when something good is done it's George Bush who did it but when it came to failures it's not George Bush fault but Clinton. :lol: :lol: :lol: geez...and they're suppose to be Christians and God fearing....what a joke these people are.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

So the deficit spending, bail out and expansion of medicare is not Bush's fault as well but Clinton ? and that the Clinton economy was because of Bush not by him ? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Go ahead Leroy you look so credible here now.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
By Leroy
#11002
There you go again, lying about my statements.

The facts are that you didn't read the entire event line - in fact, Rice claims that Tenet was in direct communication with Bush during the entire month of August 2001, daily, but Tenet claims he didn't speak with or see Bush during the entire month of August 2001. Not only that part did you miss, but Tenet also claims he was not available for most of August 2001 - in testimony before the 9/11 Commission.... Oh, and Rice wasn't with Bush during that period either.

Again, Bush was not warned, and it was Clinton Carry-Over staff, working for Bush, that removed the threats from the PDB's that were given to Bush - while the actual Intel analysts were sending the information for the PDB's.

Oh, and when they all got back into DC, even at the first meeting, on Sept 4th, Tenet and Rice didn't talk to Bush about the terrorist threat that we now know was part of 9/11.

So, there you go, now you know the FULL STORY, the truth, and you can bow out gracefully by admitting that you just repeat blog points without doing any research on them, that you're wrong as usual.
#11005
Leroy wrote:There you go again, lying about my statements.

The facts are that you didn't read the entire event line - in fact, Rice claims that Tenet was in direct communication with Bush during the entire month of August 2001, daily, but Tenet claims he didn't speak with or see Bush during the entire month of August 2001. Not only that part did you miss, but Tenet also claims he was not available for most of August 2001 - in testimony before the 9/11 Commission.... Oh, and Rice wasn't with Bush during that period either.

Again, Bush was not warned, and it was Clinton Carry-Over staff, working for Bush, that removed the threats from the PDB's that were given to Bush - while the actual Intel analysts were sending the information for the PDB's.

Oh, and when they all got back into DC, even at the first meeting, on Sept 4th, Tenet and Rice didn't talk to Bush about the terrorist threat that we now know was part of 9/11.

So, there you go, now you know the FULL STORY, the truth, and you can bow out gracefully by admitting that you just repeat blog points without doing any research on them, that you're wrong as usual.

hahaha....you got to be kidding me ? :lol: :lol: :lol:

And who is your source for this horse crap ? SHOW US HERE. I could not wait how credible this source is.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
By Leroy
#11016
themission1428 wrote:
Leroy wrote:There you go again, lying about my statements.

The facts are that you didn't read the entire event line - in fact, Rice claims that Tenet was in direct communication with Bush during the entire month of August 2001, daily, but Tenet claims he didn't speak with or see Bush during the entire month of August 2001. Not only that part did you miss, but Tenet also claims he was not available for most of August 2001 - in testimony before the 9/11 Commission.... Oh, and Rice wasn't with Bush during that period either.

Again, Bush was not warned, and it was Clinton Carry-Over staff, working for Bush, that removed the threats from the PDB's that were given to Bush - while the actual Intel analysts were sending the information for the PDB's.

Oh, and when they all got back into DC, even at the first meeting, on Sept 4th, Tenet and Rice didn't talk to Bush about the terrorist threat that we now know was part of 9/11.

So, there you go, now you know the FULL STORY, the truth, and you can bow out gracefully by admitting that you just repeat blog points without doing any research on them, that you're wrong as usual.

hahaha....you got to be kidding me ? :lol: :lol: :lol:

And who is your source for this horse crap ? SHOW US HERE. I could not wait how credible this source is.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
You posted information, but you didn't post the full details, and the details I posted are available in the 9/11 report as well as transcripts of testimony - if you're too stupid to read it
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