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#10810
I'm not so sure how conservative Romney is but no one can deny Obama is very liberal. Consider this when you cast vote because it will determine the path our Country takes.

If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.
If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.
If a conservative is heterosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
If a liberal is down-and-out, he demands someone take care of him.
If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
If a liberal doesn't like a talk show host they demand it be shut down
#10818
Lumpster I think you're on the wrong thread, what does military commanders making field decisions on targets of opportunity have to do with the difference between a liberal and a conservative?

Do you really think Obama is getting 3am calls or while he's playing golf from Afgan saying there is toyota with Taliban travelling on route 202, "what do we do Mr. President?"
#10822
RealJustme wrote:Lumpster I think you're on the wrong thread, what does military commanders making field decisions on targets of opportunity have to do with the difference between a liberal and a conservative?

Do you really think Obama is getting 3am calls or while he's playing golf from Afgan saying there is toyota with Taliban travelling on route 202, "what do we do Mr. President?"

Nice folksy example but in the real world it doesn't happen like that.

The president leads the direction on what he wants his administration to do. He hand picks these people and have them confirmed thru congress or appointed. Conversely, if they do not like working with the president they can resign or not accept it. Also in some cabinet positions, if republicans don't want that person appointed they can block his/her confirmation.

Gen. Mc Chrystal resigned I think because he was not in favor of how Obama was running the show. John Hunstman resigned as ambassador to China to run for president under the republican party. But Gen. Petraus (a republican) agreed to be the CIA director of Pres. Obama. Robert Gates also a republican was our defense secretary.

If the president says go kill as many terrorist as you can then that order is followed thru down the military line of command. When George Bush said that he doesn't care where Osama Bin Laden is during his presidency the task force to look for Osama was dismantled. This is a fact.

When we invaded the territory of Pakistan for few minutes to kill Bin Laden it was approved ultimately by President Obama. Not of the field commanders.

Bottom line : The buck stops at the President. He therefore has the power to say where he wants this country to go including ordering to kill terrorist. Regardless the president is a republican or democrat. That's why we have elections every four years, right ?

So Lumpster is absolutely right. You just don't want to give Obama credit because you are anti Obama.
#10850
Bottom line : The buck stops at the President.
I thought I would never hear a liberal use those words while Obama was in office. :shock:

I'll try and dumn it down so you can understand why there has been more drone attacks under Obama than under Bush. Under Bush there were very few drones and they were almost all used for surveillance, under Obama the military has 700% more drones capable of carrying weapons and their technology is much more advanced than they were 4 years ago. 700% more attack drones, 48% more drone attacks = Bush was actually more aggressive with the few attack drones he had.
#10851
RealJustme wrote:I'm not so sure how conservative Romney is but no one can deny Obama is very liberal. Consider this when you cast vote because it will determine the path our Country takes.

If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.
If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.
If a conservative is heterosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
If a liberal is down-and-out, he demands someone take care of him.
If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
If a liberal doesn't like a talk show host they demand it be shut down
Interesting how the resident liberals replied and didn't address your post.

What should be taken from this is that Liberals are "Intolerant" and use "hate and violence to spread their intolerance of others"

As for Lumpy and the idiot, Bush put the orders in place, they remain standing currently, and the Military doesn't need approval from Obama for each attack against terrorists using the drones. If Obama had his way, he would remand the order to use drones, but he knows that it would cost him more votes than it's worth (to look bad in the eyes of his brother terrorists).
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