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By RealJustme
#105241
We all know Sears had bee closing stores over the years but it's their recent activities that should concern you if you have money invested in Sears. The real red flag that Sears is planning on Bankruptcy is their recent sale-and-leaseback deals that have quietly been taking place. They are selling their properties with an agreement that they lease it back from the buyers so operations aren't effected. During a bankruptcy those or other legal actions, those properties can't be touched since Sears no longer owns them.

So what are they doing with the 100's of millions they're receiving from those sales? Not sure what they're doing with it but I know why they're doing it, they're taking steps to prevent creditors and investors from getting any of it? I say watch the top executive sudden bonuses and the money being used for start ups not associated with Sears.

So a similar reason, I lease my property from my brother rather than purchasing it outright. If for what ever reason something happens are one my workers does something really stupid, no one can touch the property since I don't own it. Another plus is I get the write the money I give my brother off as expenses.

I wouldn't be surprised if Sears executives are charged in a few years for they're now doing to screw creditors and investors. Dump it, if you have it, do it now.
By johnforbes
#105271
Facebook is a tough one.

Zuck is a young dolt, and the whole business plan is to collect personal info and sell it for profit.

Google and Amazon are very eager for profit, but pretend to have some socialist "conscience."

Whatever its merits, isn't Apple at least fully priced?

I have a hard time wanting to invest in such outfits, so what I mostly do is get comm and tech funds and let some young MBA figure out what to buy and sell.
By elklindo69
#105279
johnforbes wrote:Facebook is a tough one.

Zuck is a young dolt, and the whole business plan is to collect personal info and sell it for profit.

Google and Amazon are very eager for profit, but pretend to have some socialist "conscience."

Whatever its merits, isn't Apple at least fully priced?

I have a hard time wanting to invest in such outfits, so what I mostly do is get comm and tech funds and let some young MBA figure out what to buy and sell.
Facebook is a tough one?

Really Johnnie?

An advertising platform with about 2 billion monthly active users? That's a network effect on steroids...virtually nothing can match that. Even a person with below than average intelligence can figure out that one out.

Zuckerberg has made many wealthy...can't say that for Trump.
By sillydaddy
#105287
Zuckerberg has made many wealthy...can't say that for Trump.
That's what the lefties accuse him of, every day...! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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By RealJustme
#105289
Sears has gone from a high of $133.00 to today's $2.37, yet yesterday top Sears executives were given the highest performance bonuses the company has ever handed out...this was after selling several of their properties for the cash then leasing the properties back.
By johnforbes
#105292
Facebook is a tough one for me.

When you have somebody like Zuck, or you have the many privacy issues Google has (or the way it is ruining YouTube), I have trouble buying the stock.

Investing is not just cold analysis, but also trust in the soundness of the thought of management.

That's why I will never be a good judge of stocks such as Google, Facebook, Yahoo, etc, and why I own comm/tech funds where the manager can hopefully do better.
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By RealJustme
#105751
So how's that Facebook short going for you?
Great! Told you to get out several weeks ago at it's peak, it dropped 24% today and is expected to drop even lower! The King has no clothes. Watch for Tesla to do the same.
The tech-heavy Nasdaq was set for a big down after disappointing quarterly results from Facebook sent the social media giant hurtling toward its biggest share price decline ever and on track to lose more than $125 billion in market value. With Facebook down more than 20 percent after hours, that would far and away be its biggest drop ever. Its previous biggest drop was a 12 percent fall back in July 2012 shortly after it went public. Experts are warning that based upon today's developments Facebook shares will drop even further in the coming days.
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By elklindo69
#105760
RealJustme wrote:
So how's that Facebook short going for you?
Great! Told you to get out several weeks ago at it's peak, it dropped 24% today and is expected to drop even lower! The King has no clothes. Watch for Tesla to do the same.
The tech-heavy Nasdaq was set for a big down after disappointing quarterly results from Facebook sent the social media giant hurtling toward its biggest share price decline ever and on track to lose more than $125 billion in market value. With Facebook down more than 20 percent after hours, that would far and away be its biggest drop ever. Its previous biggest drop was a 12 percent fall back in July 2012 shortly after it went public. Experts are warning that based upon today's developments Facebook shares will drop even further in the coming days.
"The emperor has no clothes" is the correct terminology you fool!

:lol:

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By RealJustme
#105763
Elk do you know how silly you are? You're going back to 2013, I said dump it a few weeks ago, not in 2013. It was peaking when I said dump it, it dropped 24% today. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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By RealJustme
#105771
Clown you don't own any stocks, but just pretend you had owned some FB stokes, let's say $100K last month when I said dump it, doing so would have saved you $24K in losses.

Clown you're probably wondering how I did it and if I have some "insider" information, well I don't. When the FB scandal broke concerning selling user's data, anyone should have seen it would result in loss of users, restrict their future selling of data and hiring massive numbers of new employees to fix it...not to mention tons of litigation. Top it off with FB selling ads to Russians during the elections and it all adds up to a rapid drop in profits. See I think like a conservative, I deal in facts and logic, not unicorn farts.
By Clownkicker
#105772
I bought FB at $32.

Imagine how broken up I am that it's only up 500% in five years.

Waaah....

Tool, you're probably wondering how I did it and if I have some "insider" information, well I don't.

I'm just a lot smarter than you.
By johnforbes
#105775
My bet is that Zuck has a steady selling plan so he can diversify and retain billions long after this terrible thing has run its course.

But then, as stated above, I just don't get how people can spend hours on FB.
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By RealJustme
#105786
Even after losing $16 Billion yesterday Zuck still has over $60 Billion, he can retire on that amount and live a very comfortable life. It's the small investors like clown with his $36.00 investment that lost $8.64 yesterday that will suffer.
By elklindo69
#105788
RealJustme wrote:Elk do you know how silly you are? You're going back to 2013, I said dump it a few weeks ago, not in 2013. It was peaking when I said dump it, it dropped 24% today. :lol: :lol: :lol:
I've owned FB in my retirement account for years...

And I'll own it for many more years.......................

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
By Clownkicker
#105790
Tool, my "$36 investment" is now worth $180 after five years. How do you see that as suffering?
I think I'm doing great with that kind of ROI compared to your Partisan Hate Retirement Systems holdings.

I mean, you bought a shitload of FLR at $63 because you hate Obama, and you're still down 20% after four years.

You're a friggin genius to lose that kind of money in this market. You're the one who's suffering, Tool. :lol:
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By namngulfvet
#105792
elklindo69 wrote:
RealJustme wrote:
So how's that Facebook short going for you?
Great! Told you to get out several weeks ago at it's peak, it dropped 24% today and is expected to drop even lower! The King has no clothes. Watch for Tesla to do the same.
The tech-heavy Nasdaq was set for a big down after disappointing quarterly results from Facebook sent the social media giant hurtling toward its biggest share price decline ever and on track to lose more than $125 billion in market value. With Facebook down more than 20 percent after hours, that would far and away be its biggest drop ever. Its previous biggest drop was a 12 percent fall back in July 2012 shortly after it went public. Experts are warning that based upon today's developments Facebook shares will drop even further in the coming days.
"The emperor has no clothes" is the correct terminology you fool!

:lol:

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Hey Elkturd are you aware FB board is talking about dumping Zukenburg. Hes looking millions because of his political views .. they dont want him there anymore :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Its kind of like the USS Unitied Steel workers union is going all Trump on us.. Hes bringing back jobs so they can work.. and they love it :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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By RealJustme
#105794
Clown - I bought FB at $32.

Imagine how broken up I am that it's only up 500% in five years.
Clown - my "$36 investment" is now worth $180
Clown you can't even keep your lies straight. :lol: :lol: :lol:
By Clownkicker
#105796
Tool, you moron, you're the one who changed $32 to $36.

But that doesn't matter, because it is still true that every $36 I invested is now worth roughly $180.
That's why I said "$36 investment" and not $36 share of stock, you imbecile.

I know that sort of mathematical reality evades your dimwitted consciousness, but it's true whether you can grasp it or not. :lol: :lol: :lol:

You're so used to simply making up stupid shit, you think everyone else does what you do.

We don't.
By Clownkicker
#105799
"It's the small investors like clown with his $36.00 investment..."-RealStool

No, those are your words, verbatim, Tool. I said $32 per share. You said $36 investment, which is exactly what I responded to.

The joke is, you're honestly unaware of what you said, you're just so used to making up stupid shit.

You actually can't help yourself. It's automatic with you.
By johnforbes
#105802
"...every $36 I invested is now worth roughly $180."

I, for one, would like to salute Clowntoker for reaching this financial milestone.

A lot of people try to save and invest, and all of them hope to attain the lofty goal of having $180 invested as Clown does.
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By RealJustme
#105804
Clown "...every $36 I invested is now worth roughly $180."
Clown "I said $32, it was you that said $36.

No dude, words have meaning. You should have cut your loses and just said "Justme, you were spot on when you recommended we sell FB stocks when you did." We would have all applauded you for finally manning up!
By Clownkicker
#105805
Yup, johnny, do it ten- or twenty-thousand times and it turns into a useful amount of money, doesn't it.

But the point is it was done in just five years and RealTool has the gall to bad mouth the stock. Meanwhile, he's still struggling to get his hate-based FLR investment back to break-even, which won't happen this year either.

Unlike RealTool, I don't invest based on who I hate.


"It's the small investors like clown with his $36.00 investment..."-RealStool

Yes dude, words have meaning. Why you insist on running away from your own words is a mystery.
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By namngulfvet
#105808
Clownkicker wrote:Tool, you moron, you're the one who changed $32 to $36.

But that doesn't matter, because it is still true that every $36 I invested is now worth roughly $180.
That's why I said "$36 investment" and not $36 share of stock, you imbecile.

I know that sort of mathematical reality evades your dimwitted consciousness, but it's true whether you can grasp it or not. :lol: :lol: :lol:

You're so used to simply making up stupid shit, you think everyone else does what you do.

We don't.
So Realjsutme nailed it with you! ROFLMAO... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
By johnforbes
#105822
Alphabet, Facebook, Apple...they all seem overpriced to me.

But then it is so difficult to appraise a com-tech stock properly that I prefer to let purported "experts" do that for me.

Facebook, Twitter... one day I bet all things related to Google and YouTube will be slammed...
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By RealJustme
#105831
When one com-tech stock is hit, it normally drives the others down as a normal reaction to the market. Zuck knew that an not only sold 18% of his FB stock but several other tech stocks just before the scandal went public.
By elklindo69
#105870
RealJustme wrote:When one com-tech stock is hit, it normally drives the others down as a normal reaction to the market. Zuck knew that an not only sold 18% of his FB stock but several other tech stocks just before the scandal went public.
Proof?
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