[housemd]

Whats going on with the Credit Card situation?

Seems any legit company would want my money or maybe all sorts of new peoples money?

I have asked KIK about a dozens times to activate, however not sure and not going to waste my time with the games.

I''d rather just pay for a new one and have another full year.

And NO will will never receive any information from me such as SS#, address etc etc.

So whats the scoop?

Credit card payments?

Or Not?

[VWSupport]

We have already secured the proper necessities and been completely approved in order to be able to process credit cards, however the system is being tested to ensure that the coding is perfect before anyone will have the ability to pay by credit card.

I am very sorry, but I have never received a single email from the email address you used to sign up for these forums, and have replied to every email that has been sent to me up until late last night and this morning; those I am working on right now and your email is not among them. You do not need to pay again if you are already a member or supply your address, SSN, etc in order to reactivate your account, and I have never asked for such. In fact all members have had free time added onto their accounts, and I will be happy to assist you further with getting back your account. Please send me an email to Kiki@voyeurweb.com

[housemd]

While I am sure many of us appreciate the use of Nortons security, you still have not secured a 3rd party for credit cards.
I am not too trusting in the company which owns this, being the same processing my funds, especially in another country.
While I understand that doesn't seem possible, I am just curious as to why this is?
Maybe you could shed some light on this.

[VWSupport]

There is a 3rd party processor, the company that owns the sites does not do the processing nor are they holding your credit card data. In order to be PCI compliant we do not store ANY credit card information on file in our databases or anywhere at our facilities.

[housemd]

And why are they no longer doing business in the US?

England?

I am sorry, something doesn't add up.

Normally CC companies redirect you to their site.

That signup form is nothing other than a Norton Secure form.

[housemd]

I am really not trying to bust your stones.

If you can give me a legitimate name and company.

I have search and do not find this anywhere, it just seems odd.

Sorry, wasn't trying to cause trouble.

BTW, you missed a great day on a sailboat.

[housemd]

Again, not trying to cause trouble, just seems odd the address is a common flathouse.

19 KATHLEEN ROAD
LONDON
ENGLAND
SW11 2JR




Legal Information

Company Registration No.: 07954162

Incorporation Date: 17 Feb 12
5 Months old

Financial Year End: 29-02

Capital:£1.00
on 17 Feb 12

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[Lucky99]

Before Feb 23 2012 sounds like it was one of those poker sites that got shut down.
From Google

Previous names:

Basic information about company SOCIAL GAMING, INC. LTD
Company Number 07954162
Terms of Use
Registered Office 19 KATHLEEN ROAD
LONDON
ENGLAND
SW11 2JR

[VWSupport]

This address is for an office in London which handles certain items for our sites, however, this company does not deal exclusively with us (or they would be quickly broke) and other corporations utilize them as well.

[Lucky99]

what this about on your credit card sign up page?
Clearwater Florida is a long way from London

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[Lucky99]

There is a 3rd party processor, the company that owns the sites does not do the processing nor are they holding your credit card data. In order to be PCI compliant we do not store ANY credit card information on file in our databases or anywhere at our facilities.

So why does a 3rd party processor have an email address like (secure.redclouds.com)?

[VWSupport]

Please understand that the SSL certificate provides encryption for our website and a verification which ensures that the website (in this case RedClouds) is owned by the company viewed on the certificate (in this case Social Media), this is simply to prevent fraud and protects you as a consumer. It does not mean that we are the credit card processing company, these are two entirely different things. If you would like further information on this please see this link http://www.boutell.com/newfaq/definitions/ssl.html

[VWSupport]

There is a 3rd party processor, the company that owns the sites does not do the processing nor are they holding your credit card data. In order to be PCI compliant we do not store ANY credit card information on file in our databases or anywhere at our facilities.

So why does a 3rd party processor have an email address like (secure.redclouds.com)?

It does not, secure.redclouds.com is not an email address, it is a webpage. It is the web address for our payment page https://secure.redclouds.com/memberships/purchase/.

If you have any further questions just let me know.

[housemd]

And as you said our bill will show Social Media inc as listed with our payment.
So this is in fact, not a 3rd party.
That is what I was asking to begin with.
Thanks very much for the help

[VWSupport]

It is the same way that when you go to a mom and pop store down the block for a pizza pie it shows up as Billy's Pizza Store on your credit card. This is so you know where the charge was from when you look at your statement, but Billy's Pizza Store does not own their own credit card processing company. It is simply the place where you received the product that was billed for; this is a common practice. The charge says Social Media rather than VoyeurWeb, RedClouds, etc, in order to protect your privacy and so it does not stand out on your credit card statement.

[DarknLadyJedi]

Norton verifies that the log in page follows all PCI compliance procedures, as required. Part of those is not storing CC information or having it available to the initiating web site.

Of course, not all companies can qualify for the Norton Seal, and those companies either can not use CC processing through their own site, or have to use another company that offers similar services.

I would always recommend researching any company you are not familiar with that is authenticating CC processing to ensure they are a safe and reliable company.

For instance if you put "Norton Secured scam" into a Google browser you come up with a number of hits talking about how Norton prevented a scam. If you put another company, say "SecurityMetrics scam" into Google you come up with a lot of complaints about how this company operates and questions it's integrity.

On 419legal.org they were unable to verify if the company was a scam or not but did have this report:

I did not find much information about Securitymetrics Scam, so that I can clear your idea about whether it is a scam or not. But one review that I got from Complaintsboard.com discloses some fact about this online company.

This is the review I am talking about read it carefully and judge by yourself.

http://www.419legal.org/frauds/security ... s-scam.php
“Securitymetrics.com when i went there, i had to register and was asked to pay £11. 97 this is a discounted price for BCMS customers, when i read the terms and conditions, it stated that basically they were not responsible for anything that i told them???, so when i called them and asked what they did, they said that the form i filled in online was sent to BCMS, my question is why are BCMS asking me to give an undertaking to a third party that does not warrant the information, and why do i have to pay for the privilege, Barclays say that this company are APPROVED and if i did not conform to this then i could get a MASSIVE FINE from a card company, i only transact cards from a machine that is connected to the telephone line directly and the receipts that we keep are put into a secure till along with all the money that we take in the course of a day, and are then put in a locked device in a locked and secure office...”

So as you can see there is a wide variety of companies out there that can provide security seals. From reliable companies like Norton, who provides for VW, to less reliable companies that may even be allowing the company that uses them to provide false information.

I don't know that I would be willing to give my CC info to a company that was secured by someone with that many reported scams coming up on the first page of a Google search. But that's just me.



As to the addresses of VW, do you honestly think they have just one?

[housemd]

Dark,
If you are not directly working for this company.
Your opinion doesn't hold any weight
Thanks, but kiki was kind enough to answer, what we already knew.

[theNakedTruth]

Kiki,

I sure hope that you just came up with a terrible analogy. When I go to the pizza place on the corner, I have to hand someone my credit card which gives them a chance to copy down the numbers or make an impression of the card BEFORE they hand it off to the company to process it. (In fact, I've had my card number stolen this way at of all places Disneyland.) I sure hope you aren't telling us that the data we enter into that form is being handled by VW before it's passed on to some company to process the actual charge.

DarknLadyJedi,

Where does it say that the Norton Seal verifies PCI compliance procedure? It's my understanding that all that does is verify SSL is being used and authenticates the website.

I didn't find any article that said that SecurityMetrics verification is a scam nor did I find anything that said Norton Secured Seal prevented a scam. Norton Antivirus may have though. I've only found people complaining like the one you quoted above as to why they are being charged for this service. Do you really want me to quote things that were said by someone like rugrollers a month ago regarding the lack of security at the Explicit BB and tell people they are foolish for trusting it? According to you, being accused of something isn't the same as being convicted of it and these are only complaints about CC companies requiring people to pay for this service.

Lastly, the question about the addresses wasn't why does this company have multiple locations and you know it. The question is why is VW's location in London just a front for the company?

Stop offering your opinion like "less reliable companies that may even be allowing the company that uses them to provide false information" and pass it off as fact just to strike fear in people that may be choosing to do business elsewhere.

[Lucky99]

Housemd Dark don't work here he just lives here this web site and BB is his whole life.

[VWSupport]

I am sorry if the analogy came off incorrectly. I was trying to use a very simple analogy in order to show that the business name which is displayed as the charge on your card and the company that does the actual processing of the credit card are two very different things which have basically nothing to do with one another. The pizza place is obviously different from an online store, in that any brick and mortar establishment (like the apparently not-so-happiest place on earth) does indeed hold your credit card information literally in their hand. Online this is not the case, as the information is encrypted (what the SSL certificate is for) and VoyeurWeb never sees any of your credit card information. Here is a great diagram showing how this works: http://www.authorize.net/resources/howitworksdiagram/

Generally speaking, it is much easier for some kid behind a counter to steal your information.

I do not mind answering questions here, but let's keep everything civil on these boards. No need for negativity or drama please, just naked photos and fun.

[DarknLadyJedi]

DarknLadyJedi,

Where does it say that the Norton Seal verifies PCI compliance procedure? It's my understanding that all that does is verify SSL is being used and authenticates the website.

I didn't find any article that said that SecurityMetrics verification is a scam nor did I find anything that said Norton Secured Seal prevented a scam. Norton Antivirus may have though. I've only found people complaining like the one you quoted above as to why they are being charged for this service. Do you really want me to quote things that were said by someone like rugrollers a month ago regarding the lack of security at the Explicit BB and tell people they are foolish for trusting it? According to you, being accused of something isn't the same as being convicted of it and these are only complaints about CC companies requiring people to pay for this service.

Lastly, the question about the addresses wasn't why does this company have multiple locations and you know it. The question is why is VW's location in London just a front for the company?

Stop offering your opinion like "less reliable companies that may even be allowing the company that uses them to provide false information" and pass it off as fact just to strike fear in people that may be choosing to do business elsewhere.

You are correct, the Norton Secured Seal does not verify PCI compliance, it verifies that the company is who they say they are. And since PCI compliance it mandatory for all credit card processing, and that IS a CC processing issue...
Unless you are saying that Norton would scan and verify a site that was using a CC payment process that wasn't PCI compliant? In which case you have pretty much stated that ANY use of your credit card online is open to complete theft by the site you are giving it to.

As for SecureMetrics, people can read for themselves, no, the company itself is not a scam, although why they would initiate deep scans on companies that don't use CC transactions and thus don't need to be PCI compliant or use their services is a mystery. As is how they could verify the person in the quote, and link, I provided. This isn't to say that any company using SecureMetrics is a scam. You are the one accusing a company using Norton of being a scam.

As for an address being a front for a web based company, aren't they all?

BTW, are you the same TheNakedTruth that was posting in F&S? I noticed you never replied when it was proved all of your allegations there to be half truths and falsehoods.

[DarknLadyJedi]

Housemd Dark don't work here he just lives here this web site and BB is his whole life.

Nope, but sadly I do have way too much time on my hands lately with this new schedule LJ and I have.

[housemd]

Kiki,

If you tell us who the 3rd party CC company is, we'd gladly sign up.

I am pretty sure most of us want to be able to contact this company as we can with anybody else on the net.

Either to file a complaint, refund or etc etc etc.

Not that this is the reason, but If I use ebay, I know it is Paypal I need to resolve conflicts with.

If I sign up for candycam, I know I can go to ______________, to resolve any issues.

With you, I have ?????? To go to to resolve?

I hope I put this simply.

[DarknLadyJedi]

Kiki,

If you tell us who the 3rd party CC company is, we'd gladly sign up.

I am pretty sure most of us want to be able to contact this company as we can with anybody else on the net.

I'm curious, how do you know this about anybody else on the net?
And no, this isn't a baited question, how I found Merchant Account info was a major pain in the ass. If you have an easier way where it is shown on the different sites I would love to know it.