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#103026
A federal judge has rejected special counsel Robert Mueller’s request to delay the first court hearing in a criminal case charging three Russian companies and 13 Russian citizens with using social media and other means to foment strife among Americans in advance of the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

Mueller's team assumed the 13 people charged in the high-profile indictment in February wouldn't appear in a U.S. court however, a pair of Washington-area lawyers suddenly surfaced in the case, notifying the court that they represent Concord Management.

On Friday, Mueller’s prosecutors disclosed that Concord’s attorneys, Eric Dubelier and Kate Seikaly, had made a slew of discovery requests demanding nonpublic details about the case and the investigation. Mueller's team sought the delay on the grounds that it was unclear whether Concord Management formally accepted the court summons related to the case so the government wasn't prepared to produce the requested documents.

In a blunt response Saturday morning, Concord's attorneys accused Mueller's team of ignoring the court's rules and suggesting a special procedure for the Russian firm without any supporting legal authority.

"Defendant voluntarily appeared through counsel as provided for in [federal rules], and further intends to enter a plea of not guilty. Defendant has not sought a limited appearance nor has it moved to quash the summons. As such, the briefing sought by the Special Counsel’s motion is pettifoggery," Dubelier and Seikaly wrote. The lawyers, who work for Pittsburgh-based law firm Reed Smith, also signaled Concord intends to assert its speedy trial rights, putting more pressure on the special counsel's office to turn over records related to the case.

Judge Friedrich sided with Concord and said the arraignment will proceed as scheduled Wednesday afternoon and that the government must produce the requested documents in order for the defendants to conduct a proper defense.
Oooops! :D
#103057
Probably those were "show" charges made because they expected no response at all.
That's exactly what it was, everyone predicted the Russians would just ignore the trial and Mueller was caught off guard when their attorneys showed up and said we're ready, let's do this! Mueller had to admit he wasn't ready because he thought they wouldn't show up and asked for an extension, the judge didn't buy it, she said present your case and provide the defense attorneys documents they need for a defense.
#103059
Watch for Mueller's team to call the judge at home in the middle of the night and drop the charges...
Either that or send a SWAT to his house at 4am to search for evidence the Judge conspired with the Trump campaign or failed to disclose returns on an investment in 2001. Hell you never know what type of crimes that judge committed until you kick I his door and seize everything.
#103094
DNC server was almost surely never hacked anyhow.

That's why the DNC never turned it over to the FBI, but instead relied on friendly contractor Crowdstrike.

That company is funded by pro-Democrat Google, eh?
#103374
Another Federal Judge bitch slaps Trump supporters who claim Mueller overstepped his mandate

"A federal judge in Washington ruled Tuesday that special counsel Robert Mueller was working within his authority when he brought charges against President Donald Trump’s former campaign chairman.

The decision was a setback for Paul Manafort in his defense against charges of money-laundering conspiracy, false statements and acting as an unregistered foreign agent. Manafort had argued that Mueller had exceeded his authority because the case was unrelated to Russian election interference.

But U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson disagreed, siding with prosecutors who had produced an August 2017 memo from Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. The memo shows Rosenstein authorized Mueller to investigate Manafort’s Ukrainian work and related financial crimes."
http://time.com/5278526/robert-mueller- ... -manafort/

Trump supporters are melting down in Desperation!
#103381
I still don't understand why Mueller is wasting time and money on Manafort...
It's going to tie up his lawyers for weeks maybe months...
only to have Trump pardon the guy..

As for thinking Manafort is going to give up anyone..
the fact that he is going to trial tells you Mueller got nothing from him.. :o
#103382
Then I guess Mueller will have to settle for enforcing the law, won't he, silly.

I know that's an alien concept for you, but we are a nation of laws.

For the rest of us, when you learn someone has broken the law, you need to prosecute them.

Just ask johnforbes how crucial that is.

But there's nothing Mueller can do about a possible pardon for criminals. That's up to Trump if he wants to further thumb his nose at our justice system.
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#103383
It has now come out that Mueller's agency, when he ran it, used Russian oligarch Deripaska to help them, and he is apparently also involved in the Manafort case.

This is an obvious ethical problem for Mueller, as was Mueller hiring ONLY Democrats when his goal was surely to produce an investigation which earned the trust of the general public.

Instead, this looks like a political witch hunt.

If it isn't, why not reveal the FULL contents of both of Rod's letters giving Mueller his mandate?

Just show the average citizen what the heck they were looking for.

If they couldn't even figure out what crime they were investigating, hasn't this been a huge waste of public money?
#103384
"If it isn't, why not reveal the FULL contents of both of Rod's letters giving Mueller his mandate?"-johnfoibles

Because anything you give to Nunez will "l e a k" to Trump and every other possible target of the investigation.

That's bad to give possible targets of an investigation all the information about the investigation before it is finished.

Any 1L knows this, johnny. Did you flunk out your first quarter?
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#103385
A friend and were talking today over lunch, he made a good point, we know there's corruption in D.C. but Trump's not from D.C. and was never a politicians before, so exactly what does Trump have to do with Mueller's investigation. I said nothing, he agreed.
#103387
What does Trump have to do with an investigation into the Trump campaign possibly breaking laws? :shock:

"Nothing"? Are you conservatards for real?

The Mueller investigation isn't primarily about corruption in D.C. any more than the Starr investigation was about White Water, but you had no problem with that, did you?

Wake up and stop being such a tool, Tool.

"Nothing" :lol:
#103390
The Mueller investigation isn't primarily about corruption in D.C. any more than the Starr investigation was about White Water, but you had no problem with that, did you?
Clown you really are stupid minded today. Of course Mueller's investigation about corruption, it's about taking the President down any way they can, so what they're doing is going for the low fruit, corruption in D.C. to trying to get something one someone associated with Trump or his family so they to get hold it over that person to say something bad about Trump. They would declare that a victory even knowing it could never be proved in court, the damages of pressing charges can't be reversed.
#103446
A federal judge on Tuesday rejected an attempt by Paul Manafort, a former Trump campaign chairman, to get an indictment against him dismissed by claiming that special counsel Robert Mueller’s appointment was flawed.

In a blow to Manafort’s defense, U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson ruled that Mueller’s prosecution of the longtime political consultant on charges of money laundering and failing to register as a foreign agent for Ukraine was “squarely” within the authority that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein granted to Mueller last May.


Wooops...Trumptards!

:lol:
#103464
They kept saying Mueller was a Repub, but that was long ago if ever true.

Mueller hired 100 percent Dems for his staff, and he clearly aspires to nail Trump for something.

Probably Mueller gave Comey immunity, which is why Comey is on TV every day contradicting himself with zero worry.
#103466
What does Trump have to do with an investigation into the Trump campaign possibly breaking laws?

"Nothing"? Are you conservatards for real?
And Yet the media keeps asking the question.."Can the president be indicted??".."
".. Then can the President be subpoenaed; .. ??
Even though their own analysts tell them NO...they still keep harping on those questions..
In effect trying to influence public opinion and the Mueller investigation.. :o :lol: :lol:
#103479
So.....Ghouliani and the Trumptard clan are no longer contesting Trump's guilt, but are now reduced to arguing if Trump has the power to keep himself from testifying or being arrested.

Donald's Tower is falling down, falling down, falling down................

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
#103518
^^The two dynamic dingbats in action^^

It's a waste of time to explain that investigations take time and that Mueller has already generated multiple indictments and prison sentences but your mind is already made up and you've stopped listening or more accurately never listened to begin with in the first place, so go on, back to the friendly confines of Hoax News...
#103520
It's a waste of time to explain that investigations take time and that Mueller has already generated multiple indictments and prison sentences
Elk name one person Mueller has sent to prison in this Russian investigation? Name one dude.
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