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#113366
Ocasio-Cortez cheers as Amazon scraps NYC headquarters

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez took a victory lap on Twitter Thursday over news that Amazon is scrapping its plan to build a new headquarters in Queens.

“Anything is possible: today was the day a group of dedicated, everyday New Yorkers & their neighbors defeated Amazon’s corporate greed, its worker exploitation, and the power of the richest man in the world,” she tweeted.

The freshman Democratic lawmaker had been a vocal opponent of the deal to lure the online retail giant to Long Island City — which would’ve given Amazon $3 billion in city and state subsidies in exchange for bringing a projected 25,000 jobs to the area.

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SCREW THOSE JOBS RIGHT LIBTARDS AFTER ALL THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT. NO MORE CAPITALISM
#113367
"...which would’ve given Amazon $3 billion in city and state subsidies"-dumbfuck's source

Why is namandgulfdumbfuck in favor of giving $3 billion of public money to a corporation? And to the richest corporation in America at that?

Why do conservatives support welfare to rich corporations but want to take food away from hungry Americans by cutting welfare?

Simple question, dumbfuck, why do you support corporate welfare but not support welfare to humans?

I mean, unless that human is you, of course. Then you're all for it, you hypocritical socialist leech.
#113368
Does anyone else understand what namandgulfdumbfuck is pissing himself about?

New York saves $3 billion in corporate welfare and dumbfuck says it means "NO MORE CAPITALISM" somehow.

He should be cheering that it's the BEGINNING of real capitalism when governments don't give public money to corporations.

Let them pay their own costs of doing business, right?
#113370
Cortez just lost NYC 25,000 good paying jobs and all the spending that comes with it. 70% of New Yorkers strongly supported Amazon opening their second operation in NYC. Amazon citied Cortez' threats to force them to pay more taxes was the deciding factor that NYC isn't business friendly so will look else where. As Amazon pointed out "Why would want to build a large operation in a city where voters selected politicians that start attacking us before we even start construction?"

The funny thing is all those insiders who bought up properties surrounding the area they were going to build now will have to sell at a loss! The Clintons were among those who invested 100's of millions in the area just before Amazon's announcement to build there. Hillary probably wants to pull that bitches greasy hair out.
#113386
elklindo69 wrote:Now the Trumpers are criticizing the democrats for not giving corporations 3 billion dollars in socialist welfare payments?

Go figure?

:roll:
I dont see where anyone said that Elk. Again just another lie on your part. Learn to read and comprehend before you speak. All that crack cocaine has fucked up your mind dude.
What were criticizing is the loss of jobs. Again learn to read and comprehend
#113392
"I can't believe Clown and Elk are defending the bimbo....."-sillydummy

I didn't defend ANYONE, you moron.

I simply pointed out that government giving money to corporations is not "capitalism" which is the thing you imbeciles are all pretending to support.

I also pointed out that every single hypocrite conservative here who pretends to support capitalism is now criticizing the idea that stopping the practice of governments giving public money to corporations is somehow anti-capitalism.

And beyond all that, not a single job was lost, nor was any capitalist entity harmed in the slightest. Capitalism is doing just fine in America. And so is Amazon in particular.
You dimwits are simply parroting the talking points of your handlers. This is because every last one of you is an emotion-driven "empty pool type diver." Did you notice RealTool couldn't refute a thing I said, but he dived right in with his purely emotion-driven comment, just like the rest of you. You know it's emotion-driven because a rational response would have tried to refute something I actually said.
#113394
Clownkicker wrote:"I can't believe Clown and Elk are defending the bimbo....."-sillydummy

I didn't defend ANYONE, you moron.

Indirectly you are Komrad Klown

I simply pointed out that government giving money to corporations is not "capitalism" which is the thing you imbeciles are all pretending to support.

I see where suck butt Elk got his talking points

I also pointed out that every single hypocrite conservative here who pretends to support capitalism is now criticizing the idea that stopping the practice of governments giving public money to corporations is somehow anti-capitalism.

Again you are twisting words. No on said this. except you

And beyond all that, not a single job was lost, nor was any capitalist entity harmed in the slightest. Capitalism is doing just fine in America. And so is Amazon in particular.

Not one single job was lost. Really! Amazon had over 20,000 jobs for the area. Not including construction and local business support it. Local New Yorkers are pissed at AOcotex for being so thoughtless and stupid. Even though they voted the dumb cunt in..

You dimwits are simply parroting the talking points of your handlers. This is because every last one of you is an emotion-driven "empty pool type diver." Did you notice RealTool couldn't refute a thing I said, but he dived right in with his purely emotion-driven comment, just like the rest of you. You know it's emotion-driven because a rational response would have tried to refute something I actually said.

Unlike you and Elk we dont have handlers and dont use talking points.. But you know that so your going to lie about it. Its no wonder no one of here believes a word you say.
#113395
"I can't believe Clown and Elk are defending the bimbo....."-sillydummy
I didn't defend ANYONE, you moron.
Indirectly you are Komrad Klown"-namandgulfdumbfuck

No, dimwit, criticizing your stupidity doesn't support ANYONE indirectly besides intelligent, rational people. The criticism just points out your stupidity and nothing more.

You are simply one of those imbeciles who believes if I don't like your particular brain-dead stupidity, then I magically like and support the person you are stupidly criticizing. This is because you cannot think beyond a narrow world where everything is either "us" or "them". You know, the world of the dimwitted conservative Trump supporter.

"Not one single job was lost. Really! Amazon had over 20,000 jobs for the area. Not including construction and local business support it."-dumbfuck

All those jobs will simply go somewhere else, dumbfuck. Nothing was lost. Amazon will employ just as many people as they were ever going to employ. Wake up. You clearly don't understand how capitalism works.


"I simply pointed out that government giving money to corporations is not "capitalism" which is the thing you imbeciles are all pretending to support."
"I see where suck butt Elk got his talking points"-dumbfuck

Notice dumbfuck couldn't refute what I said so tries a diversion instead. It's what his handlers tell him to do when he's got nothin'.
#113398
"I also pointed out that every single hypocrite conservative here who pretends to support capitalism is now criticizing the idea that stopping the practice of governments giving public money to corporations is somehow anti-capitalism."-me
"Again you are twisting words. No on said this. except you"-namandgulfdumbfuck

So now you are saying you support giving government money to corporations after all and you think that is how capitalism works?

Would you make up your mind. Either support giving government money to corporations or criticize giving government money to corporations. Stop trying to pretend you can do both at the same time.

I criticized giving government money to capitalist corporations and you disagreed with my position. You could only disagree with my position if you support giving government money to capitalist corporations.

It isn't a matter of "twisting" your words. It is the only possible understanding of your words. If you don't agree with my argument, then you must believe something other than what I argued. So what is it you actually think about giving government money to capitalist corporations? Are you for it or against it?
#113400
So now you are saying you support giving government money to corporations after all and you think that is how capitalism works
See that's how a libtard looses an argument every time. They REALLY think the government gives corporations money. The only time the government gives a company money is payment for a service, other than that they only collect money from corporations.
#113403
"Yes it would be ..
right now you have to qualify for it..! "-sillydimwit

Yes, it would be socialist then just as it is socialist now, but now it is only for some.
And if there is Medicare for all, then everyone would qualify for it, wouldn't they, sillydummy.
Your only criticism of Medicare for all would suddenly vanish simply by changing the rules on paper.

What is it about arbitrary rules that the conservative mind finds so desirable and compelling.
There is nothing sacred about them. They're just rules, and rules can be changed anytime we like.

It used to be that, to you, marijuana users were criminals and you all believed that made them bad people who should be locked up to protect society.

Now marijuana is legal in many states, so now you don't think people who use it are bad people who should be locked up to protect society any longer. Now they are just like conservatives who consume a drug like alcohol. (A mind-addling drug conservatives have no problem with and actually love.) Yet they are the same people they were five minutes before the laws were changed. It's like magic to the simple conservative mind. They just don't understand how the magic happened.

See how easy it is to simply change the rules and let go of your paralyzing fears.
#113404
"I never said anything about the gov giving or not giving money to anyone. thats your thing. Dont put words in my mouth Your Lordship."-namandgulfdumbfuck

Yes, you lack the balls to actually take a stand on something like that, dumbfuck. Because if you did, you would have to agree with Ocasio-Cortez on something, the truly conservative idea that capitalist corporations shouldn't be given public money, and then you would lose your coveted "Useful Trump Tool" card.

"They REALLY think the government gives corporations money."-RealTool

See, that's how a conservatard "looses"<-- :lol: an argument every time. They honestly can't grasp that if Amazon doesn't pay for the required infrastructure required to service their local enterprise, then someone else ends up paying for it. And even if you believe all public money comes from corporations, (which it doesn't. That sort of thing is financed largely by property taxes and bonds) then the conservatard is saying that other businesses should pay for the streets and sewers and police needed by the freeloading corporation.

It's incredible what the conservatives can so easily talk themselves into. They actually believe it is right and good if IBM and Intel and Costco are forced forced to pay for Amazon's needs of doing business. :shock:
#113414
New York wanted to give Amazon a $30 million dollar tax break. That means no one gives receives money. Its called a tax break. In return Amazon would pay $25 million in taxes to the state over a period of time. In return employees would spend their heart out adding revenue to the state coffers. If libturds understood economics 101 they would have known this.
thanks to Liberal leaders like AOCotex they lost more then just a business.. They lost millions in revenue.
#113418
So dumbfuck....where do you think the 3 billion dollars in tax revenue is going to come from? The fucking Blue?

No dumbass....the freaking taxpayers are going to have to pay for it. So do think it's free to operate the subways and schools, clean the vomit off the park benches, fix the potholes, and for cops to patrol the streets?

Amazon wasn't really making a decision based on any incentives, they decided to go to NYC because they felt they would con politicians out of a whole lot of money. And once the locals realized that it was raw deal then it was doomed...and rightfully so. That price they would have to pay was just too much.
#113428
elklindo69 wrote:So dumbfuck....where do you think the 3 billion dollars in tax revenue is going to come from? The fucking Blue?

No dumbass....the freaking taxpayers are going to have to pay for it. So do think it's free to operate the subways and schools, clean the vomit off the park benches, fix the potholes, and for cops to patrol the streets?

Amazon wasn't really making a decision based on any incentives, they decided to go to NYC because they felt they would con politicians out of a whole lot of money. And once the locals realized that it was raw deal then it was doomed...and rightfully so. That price they would have to pay was just too much.
ROFLMAO @ Elkie poo. Moron its called a credit. No money is exchanged. look it up. Every city does it.. Its pretty obvious from all you stupid ramblings you dont have a clue how the economy works .Dopey :lol: :lol: :lol:
#113439
namngulfvet wrote:
elklindo69 wrote:So dumbfuck....where do you think the 3 billion dollars in tax revenue is going to come from? The fucking Blue?

No dumbass....the freaking taxpayers are going to have to pay for it. So do think it's free to operate the subways and schools, clean the vomit off the park benches, fix the potholes, and for cops to patrol the streets?

Amazon wasn't really making a decision based on any incentives, they decided to go to NYC because they felt they would con politicians out of a whole lot of money. And once the locals realized that it was raw deal then it was doomed...and rightfully so. That price they would have to pay was just too much.
ROFLMAO @ Elkie poo. Moron its called a credit. No money is exchanged. look it up. Every city does it.. Its pretty obvious from all you stupid ramblings you dont have a clue how the economy works .Dopey :lol: :lol: :lol:
Whatever you call it is besides the point dummy.

The point is that Amazon worked out some secret deal with the mayor of NYC and governor and never got any input from the community that it would have impacted.

So now these people announce some deal that would have given up some 3 billion dollars in tax revenue. And all of the locals are saying who will be paying for the infrastructure costs associated with 25,000 new people coming into the area. So obviously that didn't sit well with them.

I think if they would have gotten input from the locals from the beginning then they could have certainly extracted better terms from amazon and worked out a deal. The city attracts plenty of investment capital without offering any tax incentives.
#113450
Whatever you call it is besides the point dummy.

The point is that Amazon worked out some secret deal with the mayor of NYC and governor and never got any input from the community that it would have impacted.

So now these people announce some deal that would have given up some 3 billion dollars in tax revenue. And all of the locals are saying who will be paying for the infrastructure costs associated with 25,000 new people coming into the area. So obviously that didn't sit well with them.

I think if they would have gotten input from the locals from the beginning then they could have certainly extracted better terms from amazon and worked out a deal. The city attracts plenty of investment capital without offering any tax incentives.
Elk this is what you want. Full time government control does. Aka Socialism its called. Are you getting the point now. or did it go over over your head
#113453
I think if they would have gotten input from the locals from the beginning then they could have certainly extracted better terms from amazon and worked out a deal.
That's why they elected the bimbo....!
Obviously it wasn't a done deal..otherwise Amazon would not have nixed it so easily. :o
#113457
It wasn’t NYC’s $3 billion...
It was Amazons $3 billion...
NY was going to provide a $3 billion tax break in exchange for $25 billion in economic activity that would have produced considerably more than the $3 billion the city would have given up. Meanwhile, all of those $100k+ jobs will now go somewhere else.

For someone who has a degree in economics-AOC’s financial illiteracy is staggering.

Don’t ever let these people ever get any real power...
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