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Source is NY Times

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:25 am
by johnforbes
Fryer, a Harvard professor, found blacks not more likely to be shot.

Blacks were more likely to be stopped, but then young black males are 3 percent of the population but account for almost half the violent crime.

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:42 am
by Clownkicker
Predictably, our resident hypocrite leaves out the rest of the story:

"A new study confirms that black men and women are treated differently in the hands of law enforcement. They are more likely to be touched, handcuffed, pushed to the ground or pepper-sprayed by a police officer, even after accounting for how, where and when they encounter the police."-johnny's article

And THAT is what people are upset about, johnny; exactly what the study concluded.

johnny also dishonestly leaves out the fact that whether or not there is racial bias in shootings overall, this tells you absolutely nothing about possible racial bias in the particular shootings that have everyone so upset recently.
The study doesn't say that there is never racial bias in any shootings.

johnforbes really needs to take a statistics class to understand what study results actually mean.

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:09 am
by RealJustme
They are more likely to be touched, handcuffed, pushed to the ground or pepper-sprayed by a police officer,
There's a reason for that.
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Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 11:09 am
by Clownkicker
Tool is a typical reactionary.
He can't get it through his thick skull that the reason those people are on the car and upset is precisely because of the injustices demonstrated by johnny's referenced study.

Again:"A new study confirms that black men and women are treated differently in the hands of law enforcement."

You would be up on the car too if it were "stupid Cubans" who were being unfairly treated.
But undoubtedly you would have an AR-15 with you.
johnforbes not only shot himself in the foot with his dishonest post, but he set you up to shoot yourself in the foot as well.

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 11:51 am
by RealJustme
He can't get it through his thick skull that the reason those people are on the car and upset is precisely because of the injustices demonstrated by johnny's referenced study.
So when the police arrest them for attacking the police, this makes them want to attack the police?

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:53 pm
by Clownkicker
No, Tool, when police kill unarmed people or sever their spines in the van ride to the station, all with impunity,("not guilty") it makes the victims of such systemic treatment want to attack the police, just the same as it would make YOU want to attack the police if the courts provided YOU no path to justice for measurably unfair treatment of your friends and family.

The proof is seen in the case of Muslim immigrants. When a few attack you unfairly, but on a regular basis, you want to kill them all in other countries and stop any of them from entering this country.
Why would you expect blacks to respond any differently than you do to a recognized group behaving toward them in a similar fashion?

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:05 pm
by RealJustme
Why would you expect blacks to respond any differently than you do to a recognized group behaving toward them in a similar fashion
What are you attempting to say?

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:19 pm
by elklindo69
RealJustme wrote:
Why would you expect blacks to respond any differently than you do to a recognized group behaving toward them in a similar fashion
What are you attempting to say?
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Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:20 pm
by elklindo69
RealJustme wrote:
Why would you expect blacks to respond any differently than you do to a recognized group behaving toward them in a similar fashion
What are you attempting to say?
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Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:21 pm
by elklindo69
RealJustme wrote:
Why would you expect blacks to respond any differently than you do to a recognized group behaving toward them in a similar fashion
What are you attempting to say?
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Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:22 pm
by elklindo69
RealJustme wrote:
Why would you expect blacks to respond any differently than you do to a recognized group behaving toward them in a similar fashion
What are you attempting to say?
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Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:33 pm
by RealJustme
Lots of photographic proof of why police are forced to use force against them. Thanks clown.

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:00 pm
by johnforbes
Clowntoker, of course, doesn't realize that blacks are just 3 percent of America, but commit almost half its violent crimes.

Naturally, and properly, cops pay more attention to such a problem.

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:16 pm
by elklindo69
Trump didn't even know who David Duke was...and the Republiturds think he can improve race relations.

Trump Trump Trump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:roll:

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:27 pm
by Intrepid
Don't stop believing Elkindoofus.

Please?

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:29 pm
by Intrepid
(This Useful Idiot has no idea how I'm punking his Useful Idiot punk bitch ass)

Schweeeeet!

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:32 pm
by elklindo69
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Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:17 pm
by Intrepid
And the beat goes on....

Don't stop believin' Elkindoofus.

Please?

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:49 am
by johnforbes
For Melania, English is her 3rd or 4th language.

Still, she speaks it better than Elkin.

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 12:04 am
by Clownkicker
Try to spin this one, RealTool.

The black guy is a therapist at a group home trying to keep the police from shooting an autistic patient. He has his hands in the air the whole time. He explains he is a therapist and that the white guy is autistic and unarmed. Then the cop shoots the black guy, cuffs him, and leaves him face down on the ground for 20 minutes with a bullet in his leg while waiting for the ambulance to arrive.
It could happen to anyone, right Tool?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/21/us/miami- ... -shooting/

Naaaw, blacks are imagining it all, right?
What could ever justify them being upset at and afraid of police?

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:29 am
by RealJustme
The black guy is a therapist at a group home trying to keep the police from shooting an autistic patient. He has his hands in the air the whole time. He explains he is a therapist and that the white guy is autistic and unarmed. Then the cop shoots the black guy, cuffs him, and leaves him face down on the ground for 20 minutes with a bullet in his leg while waiting for the ambulance to arrive.
It could happen to anyone, right Tool?
So where's the racism in it? Is the officer expected to extract the bullet from his leg? I'd bet you anything he would have waited for the ambulance instead of doing surgery even if the guy was white.

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:34 am
by Clownkicker
"So where's the racism in it?"-RealTool

The point is not that the cop waited for the ambulance, dummy.
The point is that he didn't need to shoot the guy in the first place, did he? His hands were up and empty, as you can see.
And once he did shoot the therapist, the therapist doesn't need to be handcuffed while he's bleeding, does he?
And once the therapist is handcuffed, he doesn't need to be held with his face in the concrete for 20 minutes, does he? He could lie on his back.
And after all this, the cop says he doesn't even know why he shot the guy.

What is wrong with you, Tool? "where's the racism in it"?
"black men and women are treated differently in the hands of law enforcement."
That's systemic racism. It's proven.
The guy is the patient's therapist. He put his life at risk for his patient.
Show me one example of a white guy with his hands in the air getting shot for no reason in a remotely similar situation.
Show me one example of where the cop says he doesn't know why he shot the white guy after he shoots him.

The racism is systemic, Tool. You need to look up that word to even begin to understand the problem.

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:00 am
by johnforbes
I'd like to thank Clowntoker for his contribution to this thread.

When all of western civilization's advances have been tallied, Clowntoker's will surely rank right up there.

Or be merely rank.

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:01 am
by tvd
Clownkicker wrote: Show me one example of a white guy with his hands in the air getting shot for no reason in a remotely similar situation.
Show me one example of where the cop says he doesn't know why he shot the white guy after he shoots him.
Well, get your ass out in the street, lay down, raise your hands, and I will be right with you..... :lol: :lol:

Oooppssss....you are white aren't you? Wouldn't want to make a serious mistake.....

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:05 am
by Clownkicker
So what you're saying is, you couldn't refute a thing I said, as always.

Way to go, you useless psychopath. :lol:

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:09 am
by tvd
Clownkicker wrote:So what you're saying is, you couldn't refute a thing I said, as always.
As we have already discussed, NO ONE CAN DISPUTE/REFUTE A THING YOU SAY.

You are, after all, smarter than ANYBODY; the smartest man on the internet. Why try the refute route?
It is pointless.

(and I hope that for once you can recognize sarcasm).

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:12 am
by tvd
Oooppssss.

I mis-spelled "smartest" Should have been "ooglie-google-i-est"

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:16 am
by Clownkicker
"As we have already discussed, NO ONE CAN DISPUTE/REFUTE A THING YOU SAY."-tvdunce

Yes, that's the problem I have when posting only facts and reason while talking to dimwits.

It's a discussion killer for brainwashed reactionary losers.

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:19 am
by tvd
Clownkicker wrote:"As we have already discussed, NO ONE CAN DISPUTE/REFUTE A THING YOU SAY."-tvdunce

Yes, that's the problem I have when posting only facts and reason while talking to dimwits.

It's a discussion killer for brainwashed reactionary losers.
Now how did I know you would again be right? "ooglie-google-i-est" on the 'net.

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:22 am
by Clownkicker
Well, in your case I certainly didn't have to google that bit of common sense, did I tvdimwit?

But you sure have a funny way of admitting I only posted facts and reason in my posts above. :lol:

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:31 am
by tvd
Clownkicker wrote: But you sure have a funny way of ridiculing and mocking me. True dat!!! :lol:

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:43 am
by Clownkicker
I know you are, but what am I?

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:09 am
by elklindo69
A guy lying on the ground with hands up gets shot by cop?

They say it's a training issue. I wonder if they are hiring the right people?

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:19 pm
by RealJustme
Clown - The point is not that the cop waited for the ambulance, dummy.
Clown - The cop leaves him face down on the ground for 20 minutes with a bullet in his leg while waiting for the ambulance to arrive.
You libtards are so fucking lame

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:31 pm
by Clownkicker
Talk about "lame". You are being intentionally stupid about this.

It isn't the waiting, dummy.

It's the waiting unnecessarily handcuffed and face down on the road while bleeding when the guy shouldn't have been shot at all.
That is inexcusable abuse of a law-abiding black man.
It would never happen to a white man.

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:53 pm
by RealJustme
It would never happen to a white man.
You're wrong, white men are also shot by police and there isn't one single case of an officer doing surgery to remove the bullet. Give us a link.

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 7:11 pm
by Clownkicker
^^^^ I love playing this lying sack of shit like the lying sack of shit he is.

I can make him make an asinine fool of himself anytime I like.

These dumbfuck trolls haven't the foggiest idea that THEY are the ones being played. :lol:

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:25 pm
by RealJustme
Clown folds ;)

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:25 am
by Clownkicker
RealTool folded way back at 8:29 a.m. on Friday.

That's when he began his partisan tool distractions and trolling because he couldn't refute anything I said.

I just got bored with his bullshit and decided to do something else.

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:29 am
by johnforbes
In all of his 72 years of littering this forum, I've never before seen Clownhicker subject to ennui.

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 11:00 am
by Clownkicker
Then you're aveugles en chauve souris, jeanforbes.

Your hypocrisy and stupidity bore me on a regular basis.

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 4:38 pm
by tvd
Clownkicker wrote:Then you're aveugles en chauve souris, jeanforbes.
The above translation from English to German was brought to you by Google, the GO TO source for those that know everything. For additional information it is recommended that you consult Yahoo Answers, or in a pinch, Ask.com.
Thank you.

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:01 pm
by Clownkicker
^^^^^^^^ :lol:


He really doesn't have the slightest idea how ignorant he is.

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:42 am
by Clownkicker
Hey, tvdunderhead, it occurred to me to take your advice that really intelligent people google things to be sure they are right.

So I checked my rusty 40-year-old "German" :lol: lessons on google and found I should have said "Then you're aveugle comme une chauve-souris, jeanforbes."

Though it could be argued "Then you're aveugles en chauve souris, jeanforbes." was okay, it's probably closer to my intention to use my google-checked modification.

Thanks for suggesting that, unlike you and Insipid, intelligent people check their facts on search engines before opening their yaps. I'll be sure to do it more often in the future, while you, of course, won't, you poor ignorant bastard. :lol:

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:02 am
by tvd
You got my troll earlier when I said "beyond the pail" three times.

I hooked you on my troll when I referred to the xlation above as German, when I know that it is indeed French.

So now I reel you in. And maybe YOU are blind as a bat when you cannot see that others might just be smarter than the smartest man on the internet.

Fool.

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:01 am
by RealJustme
So now I reel you in.
EVERYONE on this board knew it was bait...except clown and boy did he ever bite. Good one! Now clown will try and wiggle off the hook but will only make it worse.

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:51 am
by tvd
Sure he will.
He will say I never knew the language at all, and that now I am wiggling out....
Four years of HS French and one year of Freshman French until they kicked me out of the class for being too fluent.
(I was trying to pad my grades with a surefire "A", and they didn't allow it) LOL UGA, 1972..Clownmoid, Google it.)

He cannot be wrong. He is sincerely sick.

He can consider my future posts to be one of two things: Out and out mockery of his "intelligence", or trolling to snag his dumb ass.
Why? BECAUSE YOU CANNOT DISCUSS ANYTHING WITH HIM. He is always right....everyone else is always wrong.

Just a hint Clownmoid....just a hint.

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:54 am
by johnforbes
Clowntoker's high school French is worse than mine.

Which reminds me of this gal from Paris I met in Melbourne.

Nothing like a French kiss down under.

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:52 am
by Clownkicker
I post I was wrong and should have checked google as he recommends, and tvdummy comes back claiming I will say I was right. He's an incredible fool. :lol:

That's how tvdimwit and RealTool declare victory: "I'm a troll! I'm a troll! I'm nothing but a troll!"
That is the full extent of their political discourse. They drool and rave uncontrollably and then call the other guy "sick".

This is what has become of the reactionary Right and their idiotic politics. They can't defend their beliefs rationally but they are still allowed to vote. :shock:

Re: Source is NY Times

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:55 am
by tvd
See? Cannot be wrong.