[snakeoil]

This GOP and Democrat primary is the craziest I've ever seen. The establishment politicians are taking gas over how the electorate is ignoring the dictates of the party.

a. I feel the GOP leaders felt that the nominee would come from the "safe" candidates, Bush, Brown or Walker.

b. The Democrats had old tried and true Hillary waiting to walk into the nominating convention crowned by the establishment.

c. Along comes the spoilers, Bernie and The Donald and the establishment goes crazy.

d. The people begin to tell the establishment that they are tired of politics as usual but the establishment is saying that the people don't know what is best for them.

e. The proble4m is that the two "upstarts" know how to play the game and have backed the establishment into a corner.

f. The establishment doesn't know how to read the people that are likely to vote. The Hispanics, blacks and the young people aren't doing what they are supposed to do.

g. Already, the establishment is making moves to sink the two upstarts if they do win the votes needed for a nomination. The establishment is floating missives against both upstarts.

h. Both upstarts have warned of a battle if any double-dealing is done by the establishment.

i. Our foreign allies have misgivings about both upstarts.

This is going to be fun!

[snakeoil]

More on the primary. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (DNC Chairman and Congresswoman from South Florida) us facing her first primary challenge ever and he is a worthy challenger.

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Schultz has made enemies over the years and has been called a DINO by some of her contemporaries over the years. As South Florida is heavily Democratic, we might be seeing a real battle for her seat.

[snakeoil]

Yesterday, on CNN, Jeb Bush was asked, "If Trump won the nomination would Bush support him." Bush refused to answer, saying three times that Trump would definitely not get the nomination. To me, Trump has a very good chance to be the nominee. Bush is not the first politico that says Trump has no shot at being the nominee. I wonder if the GOP establishment has put the fix in and greased Trump out of the convention. If that is so, it would explain why the ones that are very low in the polls are spending millions on their race to The White House.

Could we see a Trump/Palin independent run if the establishment pulls a fast one? I feel that that would ensure a win for Hillary (shudder, shudder.)

[Intrepid]

Palin won't be on the ticket. She has made some sort of deal though. Energy secretary in a Trump administration comes to mind.

[johnforbes]

I agree she won't be on the ticket.

Saw an article the other day where a person ran into Mitt in an airport and got out of him some statement to the effect that he might reconsider depending on how the year turns out.

Americans are sick and tired of the DNC and the RNC. Real wages of middle class Americans fell over Obama's tenure. There are 46 million on food stamps, and 94 million out of the labor force.

Meanwhile, Paul Ryan's omnibus spending bill would almost triple the number of H1B visas and bring in more foreigners to take jobs Americans could do (America invented most software).

[sillydaddy]

Some sickos have mentioned the governor of Texas Greg Abbott as a possible running mate for Trump.

When asked Abbott said no.

Abbott is a nut.......he is actually considering a movement to get the US Constitution thrown out and

replaced with a new Constitution.

Besides the guy is in a wheelchair.......we don't need a disabled dude as VP..

[RealJustme]

Palin won't be on the ticket. She has made some sort of deal though. Energy secretary in a Trump administration comes to mind.

Agree and if the Democrats refuse to confirm her Trump will just follow Obama's lead and make her a energy Czar with the Energy secretary accountable to her.

[snakeoil]

My point is this; almost to a man, the GOP establishment says Trump has no shot at the nomination. This leads me to suspect that the fix is in. The Democratic establishment was against Obama because it wasn't his turn to run; he hadn't played the political game long enough. The Democrats expected the nominee to come from those who had played the game and made a name for themselves. I feel that this is why Obama had such a hard time.

[sillydaddy]

The reason he had and is having such a hard time is because he's an asshole......

With him it's what he wants....not what the American people want...no compromise.

Every morning he must say to himself...."I am the President, what I say goes".

[RealJustme]

My point is this; almost to a man, the GOP establishment says Trump has no shot at the nomination.

Yep some in the GOP establishment don't want an insider to come and rock the boat, but it's up to the voters to pick the nominee, not the GOP establishment and not FOX news. Hell even Hillary's own campaign manager sent out an email that was leaked saying Trump will beat Hillary if wins the Republican nomination.

In a stunning admission, Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager predicts in an email that Donald Trump will become president if he wins the Republican nomination.

“If Donald Trump takes the Republican nomination, our party will lose more than the presidency,” Robby Mook writes to supporters.

[Clownkicker]

There's no teamail so stupid that you won't swallow it hook, line, and sinker, is there,Tool? :lol:

[johnforbes]

The problem with the Bush family is akin to that with the Clintons -- they both stayed too long at the dance.

Bush Senior was a fine fellow, but America has 300 million people and they now argue it needs a THIRD Bush as president? Come on, that's absurd.

Jeb has an undergrad degree, married some Hispanic gal who persuaded him to want amnesty for 12 million illegals, and to spout nonsense such as that illegals sneak over the border "for love." Jeb isn't a bad person, but his "Jeb!" ads prove he doesn't want to remind voters his last name is "Bush."

Bill Clinton, he was an amiable rogue -- a draft-dodger, hustler, liar. The Clinton Foundation raised hundreds of millions from foreign govts to gain access to a former president and his wife a potential president. Totally crooked and corrupt.

[sillydaddy]

Clown...are you going to vote for Hillary or Bernie?

[Clownkicker]

No, are you?

[johnforbes]

Clowntoker plans to vote early -- and often -- for Hillary.

[sillydaddy]

Yeah...for Hillary! I'm going to vote guilty! :lol: :lol: