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Kerry thanks Iran for incident of detaining sailors
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:40 pm
by RealJustme
Iran, took our ships, our weapons and equipment and detained our 10 sailors at gun point. While having them in detention they recorded them on their knees and apologizing. Kerry thanked Iran for the way they handled the incident. :shock:
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Re: Kerry thanks Iran for incident of detaining sailors
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:18 pm
by Grog
I'm sure you would have preferred that the sailors were killed so that you would finally have an excuse to personally use your AR-15 to take the fight to the Iranians. :lol:
Re: Kerry thanks Iran for incident of detaining sailors
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:48 pm
by RealJustme
Clown I don't own an AR15, I have no need for it but I do know people who do like and own them. If I were to head our to rescue the Sailors I'd rather be armed with an assault rifle than an AR15.
The only reason they released the Sailors is because Obama is sending them another $30 Billion on Monday and they knew the American public would never stand for it if they kept the sailors.
Re: Kerry thanks Iran for incident of detaining sailors
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:00 pm
by Clownkicker
"The only reason they released the Sailors is because Obama is sending them another $30 Billion on Monday and they knew the American public would never stand for it if they kept the sailors."-RealTool
So what you're saying is the only reason they released the sailors is because of the nuclear deal with Iran?
I guess it's already paying off big time for the U.S., huh? No lives lost. No hostages. No serious international incident.
That's great! Thank Obama for getting our sailors back so quickly with no one dead or injured!
If he was a Republican you would be singing his praises.
"Clown I don't own an AR15, I have no need for it"-RealTool
So you're not a hunter, eh? :lol:
Re: Kerry thanks Iran for incident of detaining sailors
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:16 pm
by RealJustme
So what you're saying is the only reason they released the sailors is because of the nuclear deal with Iran?
For there to be a deal, both sides have to give something, there is no deal, just an agreement to give Iran what it wants so they would sign a piece of paper. What did we get from the deal? We aren't even getting our 5 Americans they're holding captive released, we got nothing but a signed piece of a paper and a promise they've already broken.
Re: Kerry thanks Iran for incident of detaining sailors
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:06 pm
by Clownkicker
We just got a boat load of them, Tool. :lol:
Re: Kerry thanks Iran for incident of detaining sailors
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:32 pm
by RealJustme
Now clown thinks releasing the 10 sailors was part of the nuke deal :lol: Did you forget they 5 Americans held captive that they had prior to Obama giving them everything they demanded. Those 5 are still being held captive.
Re: Kerry thanks Iran for incident of detaining sailors
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:38 pm
by Grog
Like Forbes, you prefer something more muscular than an AR-15 when you're out patrolling the Straight of Hormuz on your aqua-hoverboard? :lol:
Re: Kerry thanks Iran for incident of detaining sailors
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:48 pm
by sillydaddy
The boarding of US vessels, taking the crew prisoners....the removing of weapons and equipment.....
Only Obama...... would not consider this a hostile act against our Nation....
Re: Kerry thanks Iran for incident of detaining sailors
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:03 pm
by Clownkicker
"Now clown thinks releasing the 10 sailors was part of the nuke deal..."-RealTool
You're the one who claimed that's why Iran gave us the sailors in your 4:48 p.m. post, not me.
I quoted you saying it.
Try to keep up....with yourself, Tool. :lol:
Re: Kerry thanks Iran for incident of detaining sailors
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:10 pm
by Grog
No, simple Silly, I'm sure he did consider it a hostile act. It was.
But not one worth unleashing the death-dealing ferocity of kill-krazed patriots like yourself and JustFreedManMe. :lol:
On the other hand, maybe if you strapped it on and went to battle, Obama might give you a COLA increase. lol and LOL
Re: Kerry thanks Iran for incident of detaining sailors
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:33 pm
by johnforbes
There are some cool AR-type ones out there these days.
Re: Kerry thanks Iran for incident of detaining sailors
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:39 pm
by Grog
But not as cool as the peni-weapons in the cockfights you "refereed" back in the day, though. Right? :lol:
Re: Kerry thanks Iran for incident of detaining sailors
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:38 am
by sillydaddy
I'm sure he did consider it a hostile act. It was. ~~Grog
"A senior administration official said there is nothing to indicate this was a hostile act on the part of any entity in Iran, adding that the U.S. has received high-level assurances that the sailors would be released promptly." ~~ CNN
I believe the Iranians kept the boats.
Maybe Obama will discount the value of those vessels from the money he's going give them. :lol:
Re: Kerry thanks Iran for incident of detaining sailors
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:31 am
by Grog
Forbes can't answer, so I'll try you (I know, lol):
Do you know where the money he's "giving" them comes from?
Re: Kerry thanks Iran for incident of detaining sailors
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:31 am
by snakeoil
I'm sorry to say this Justme, but you don't understand the situation regarding the incident with Iran detaining our sailors. The patrol boat was three miles off of Farsi Island. Farsi Island is a super-sensitive military installation for Iran and is their first line of defense for any incursion into their territory, This is equivalent to the Iranians being three miles off of Norfolk Naval Base. (I wonder how we would have reacted in that scenario?) I'm sure that the first thought that went through the Iran's head was that the patrol boats were on intelligence gathering missions. Had I been in charge of that Iranian commander, I would have reacted the same as they wee probably investigating to see if, in reality, the sailors were intelligence gathering. If intelligence data had been found the situation would have unfolded differently. As to why the sailors were detained, that is a bit more complicated. First, the commander of the Iranian boat was probably a medium level officer and had to answer to a higher superior on shore, Then it gets more complicated. The Iranian military seized the boat but the Iranian Revolutionary Guard stuck it's nose into the situation and every thing was in turmoil for a while. The Iranian Revolutionary Guard is a military/political group that answers to the Muslim Cleric in charge over there. He is their only boss. The IRG is a bit radical and has reacted badly in the past.
To sum up, I think the situation was resolved well; as well as it could be dealing with Iran. We got our nose tweaked a bit but no one was injured or killed which is a big plus in my book. Iran saved face and the USA got out of the situation without injury or dead sailors.
Re: Kerry thanks Iran for incident of detaining sailors
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:56 am
by johnforbes
My initial reaction to ARs was negative, but perhaps because we trained on 14s first.
AKs are fun, but tend to climb. More reliable than accurate.
Re: Kerry thanks Iran for incident of detaining sailors
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:28 am
by Grog
Look out! Forbes is trying to butch up. :lol:
Re: Kerry thanks Iran for incident of detaining sailors
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:30 pm
by RealJustme
The only reason they released the Sailors is because Obama is sending them another $30 Billion on Monday and they knew the American public would never stand for it if they kept the sailors
Iran scored big by showing they would stand up to our military. I'm sure Kerry pleaded "Please release them, this will embarrass Obama if you don't and we won't be able to send you the money, Congress will block it, Trump will laugh at us, please, please, please release them, here's some extra stuff we'll give you, starting with...."
Re: Kerry thanks Iran for incident of detaining sailors
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:54 pm
by Grog
I'm sure that's how it worked in your world. And we've seen enough of your world over the years to know it's unhinged from reality. :lol:
Re: Kerry thanks Iran for incident of detaining sailors
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:33 pm
by Clownkicker
Upon realizing that he's made a fool of himself, RealTool doubles down on stupid once again. :lol:
Re: Kerry thanks Iran for incident of detaining sailors
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:48 pm
by johnforbes
Grog and Clownlicker posting in sequence, whew.
You could add up their IQs and the sum would be 1/16th of John Stuart Mill's IQ.