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Dear Supreme Leader
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:28 am
by elklindo69
Following up on an op-ed in the Washington Post calling the GOP’s open letter to the Iranian government last week a glorified “blog post,” former Bush speechwriter Michael Gerson suggested Sunday morning that many of the 47 GOP senators who signed the letter did so in haste, and without full understanding of its full ramifications — all of which spoke poorly of the GOP’s capacity to govern.
“This was really a stunt rather than a strategy,” Gerson told CNN’s State of the Union, before comparing Young Tom Cotton’s (R-AR) letter to Young Ted Cruz’s (R-TX) shutdown of aught-thirteen.
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Gerson said “a lot of these signatures were hurried off the floor,” that some senators signed it simply because Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) did, and that others were critical of the fact that the caucus wasn’t convened to discuss the letter.
“It shows how difficult it is to conduct the opposition from Congress,” Gerson added. “You can’t speak with one voice. You have everyone from [Senator Bob] Corker (R-TN) to Cotton in this…And the U.S. needs to speak with one voice on foreign policy matters.”
Earlier in the program, McConnell responded to Gerson’s op-ed by calling criticism of the letter a “distraction” from the issue of Iran.
Re: Dear Supreme Leader
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:27 am
by johnforbes
Why hasn't Obama done advice and consent with Senate?
That's what the Constitution calls for.
Re: Dear Supreme Leader
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:50 am
by RealJustme
“This was really a stunt rather than a strategy,”
It's actually resulted in Iran questioning Obama's authority to make promises that can't be changed by Congress or the next President and are now calling on assurances from Congress that they approve of any agreements Obama makes. It has derailed Obama's attempt to go around Congress by educating Iran on our Laws...so I would call it a strategy rather than a stunt.

Re: Dear Supreme Leader
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:23 pm
by Malcolm
Re: Dear Supreme Leader
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:16 am
by johnforbes
One of Obama's claims to office was that he was once an instructor, part-time, in constitutional law.
What, then, is his excuse for not understanding that, to make a treaty, a president should seek advice and consent from the Senate?
Obama said 22 times he lacked authority to give amnesty to illegals, then he said the hell with it and did it.
If Kerry's deal with Iran is a good deal for us (not likely), then letting the legislature look at it would be good.
Re: Dear Supreme Leader
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:47 am
by RealJustme
Half of the US Senate Just Committed Felonies, Could Face 3 Years in Prison.....
Wrong, they didn't do like Pelosi did under Bush and attempt to negotiate an agreement with a foreign government, they just clarified how the laws in the United States function. I assure you even if was close to breaking the law Holder would have already brought charges.

Re: Dear Supreme Leader
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:03 pm
by elklindo69
RealJustme wrote:“This was really a stunt rather than a strategy,”
It's actually resulted in Iran questioning Obama's authority to make promises that can't be changed by Congress or the next President and are now calling on assurances from Congress that they approve of any agreements Obama makes. It has derailed Obama's attempt to go around Congress by educating Iran on our Laws...so I would call it a strategy rather than a stunt. 
Going back on an executive agreement could have significant, if intangible, consequences for the nation’s diplomatic credibility. Retreating from one executive agreement would be a pretty radical step historically and could endanger the nation's ability to both ensure that old agreements stand and to strike new agreements.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... t-about-c/
Re: Dear Supreme Leader
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:04 pm
by elklindo69
johnforbes wrote:Why hasn't Obama done advice and consent with Senate?
That's what the Constitution calls for.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... t-about-c/
"For the president to vacate an executive agreement would be quite problematic," Peake said. It "would be largely unprecedented and cause the U.S. a great deal of grief in diplomacy, especially since 95 percent of international agreements are done via executive agreement rather than the constitutional treaty process." Indeed, Peake said, "It could call into question America’s commitment to the vast majority of her international agreements."
Re: Dear Supreme Leader
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:31 pm
by RealJustme
Going back on an executive agreement could have significant, if intangible, consequences for the nation’s diplomatic credibility.
Obama doesn't have the authority to waive sanctions passed by Congress on Iran through an executive agreement. He has to go through Congress which he has flatly refused to do, he won't even tell them what he's offering Iran or what parts of the law he's planning on changing. Iran knows more about what parts of the law Obama is changing than Congress. What Obama is doing could have significant, if intangible, consequences for the nation’s diplomatic credibility and our whole system of laws.
Good for Congress telling Iran the truth, Obama doesn't have the authority to change the law without Congress.
Re: Dear Supreme Leader
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 3:25 pm
by RealJustme
This will blow the Clown's mind.
U.S. Constitution, Clause 2: Advice and Consent Clause
The President exercises the powers in the Advice and Consent Clause with the advice and consent of the Senate.
"He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur..."
Re: Dear Supreme Leader
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:26 pm
by Malcolm
They already control Tehran increasingly they control Damascus and Beirut and Baghdad and now Sana’a as well. They do all that without a nuclear weapon. imagine what they would do with a nuclear weapon... :lol:
cotton candy..... :lol: total dipshit..... :lol:
Re: Dear Supreme Leader
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:55 pm
by Malcolm
.....Muravchik argues that we ought to just go ahead and declare war on Iran and get it over with, already. Why? Because it's really the best option we have. ........"No sense makes sense." - Charles Manson..... :lol: