DarknLadyJedi wrote:lmatnme wrote:Everyone should check their CC statements for miscellaneous charges!!!!!!!!! (anything from $1 on up)
The only way VW has your credit card info is if VC also has your credit card info.
Granted, after learning that the passwords were/are kept in plain text it does make you wonder in what other ways VW was run that is completely different from how anyone would reasonably expect their security to be run.
That should not be true. The credit card companies will not allow online computer storage of CVV/CVV2 numbers, insist on all sorts of additional security, controls, and segregation when numbers and expiration are stored, etc. This particular data has to have been segregated and would not have been available to VC in the same manner as the rest of the data.
Speaking from experience there. My company had to jump those hoops for several years before we dropped direct online payment.
DarknLadyJedi wrote:As for charge backs, remember those a pro-rated. Unless you just signed back up is it really worth your time?
And there I have to suspect is the point and the reason we needed to see screenshots, etc. Depending on the assumptions you make about membership, etc., every day you can keep your userbase from cancelling en mass is another $2 - $10K in your pocket.
As of yet we have been shown not one iota of evidence a site exists or is being worked on or that there is a single programmer. Maybe the next few hours will show differently, but either way we are dealing either with complete fraud or complete incompetence.