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Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 11:30 am
by RealJustme
Five of the Most Dangerous Taliban Commanders in U.S. Custody Exchanged for an American. "On behalf of the American people, I was honored to call his parents to express our joy that they can expect his safe return, mindful of their courage and sacrifice throughout this ordeal,” President Obama said in a statement.
"Our joy at Sergeant Bergdahl's release is tempered by the fact that President Obama chose to ignore the law, not to mention sound policy, to achieve it,"
"Trading five senior Taliban leaders from detention in Guantanamo Bay for Bergdahl's release will have consequences for the rest of our forces and all Americans" by giving terrorists "a strong incentive to capture Americans."
Similarly, Rep. Mike Rogers (R., Mich.), chairman of the House Select Committee on Intelligence, called the move a "fundamental shift in U.S. policy" that "will threaten the lives of Americans for years to come."
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:06 pm
by RealJustme
Obama's new terrorism policy. "I'll free five of your top terrorists for every American you can capture"
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:22 pm
by Clownkicker
So you're saying the Taliban are going to continue their current policy of capturing as many Americans as possible?
Wow, that's quite a daring prediction.
I guess you support the alternative of simply killing Americans instead of capturing them, eh?
Now that's REALLY a daring position for a Righty to take.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:40 pm
by RealJustme
So you're saying the Taliban are going to continue their current policy of capturing as many Americans as possible?
You're spot on, that is their current policy thanks to Obama. Even Jimmy Carter was smart enough not to release terrorists in exchange for captured Americans.
If Obama is willing to exchange the top 5 terrorists in captivity for a soldier who fled his post because he didn't believe in the war, imagine what a captured fighting soldier would get them. So now what happens if they capture an American tourist and demand 5 more be released? Does Obama say the American tourist's life isn't as important and a deserter or does he release 5 more? It will happen.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 3:00 pm
by sillydaddy
Obama allowing the Taliban to have leverage.
Why am I not surprised.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 6:57 pm
by elklindo69
RealJustme wrote:So you're saying the Taliban are going to continue their current policy of capturing as many Americans as possible?
You're spot on, that is their current policy thanks to Obama. Even Jimmy Carter was smart enough not to release terrorists in exchange for captured Americans.
If Obama is willing to exchange the top 5 terrorists in captivity for a soldier who fled his post because he didn't believe in the war, imagine what a captured fighting soldier would get them. So now what happens if they capture an American tourist and demand 5 more be released? Does Obama say the American tourist's life isn't as important and a deserter or does he release 5 more? It will happen.
So you are prognosticating that terrorists will kidnap instead of kill Americans?
:shock:
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 4:40 am
by Intrepid
There is significant evidence that the soldier deserted instead of just being taken captive. A member of his unit publicly called for him to be shot for deserting shortly after he disappeared. He sent emails to his parents saying he was ashamed to be an American in the days preceding his disappearance.
There is more to this than meets the eye. But the Useful Idiots will all stand up and cheer their Messiah while ignoring the five terrorists who will now be free to resume killing Americans.
Please, please, please Lucky Junkie Pothead Stoner ClownDicker, demand a link. I'll enjoy smashing your face into the facts once again.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:48 am
by johnforbes
Apparently, Obama's folks were desperate to find a way to change the subject from the mess in the VA.
So they took this bad deal to get the soldier back.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:38 am
by sillydaddy
The US has a policy never to negotiate with terrorists.
Obama failed to notify Congress of the exchange as required by law.
Once again Obama wipes his ass with our laws.
The excuse for bypassing Congress approval, was that the soldier's health was deteriorating , and quick action was needed. Reports say he's in excellent health.
The soldier may be guilty of desertion....but Obama is guilty of treason for deliberately aiding our enemies.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:19 am
by Clownkicker
^^^^^So tell Issa to get right on it.
What's the matter with these Republicans in Congress that they stand by and let this stuff go on?
Last I heard, Obama was "toast". Surely he's a pile of charcoal ofter this one.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:47 am
by RealJustme
The soldier may be guilty of desertion....but Obama is guilty of treason for deliberately aiding our enemies.
If one American is killed through any actions of the 5 terrorist leaders released, Obama should be charge with manslaughter for the death (s). Imagine if our prisons operated as Obama just did by releasing murders in exchanges for anyone kidnapped. Kidnappings would sky rocket and murders would be right back on the streets to murder again. What Obama did was unforgivable and a criminal act.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:53 am
by sillydaddy
Unfortunately burning down the barn to get rid of a rat is counter productive...that's exactly what the niggers would do to this country if legal action was taken against Obama.
But on the plus side, even you Clown are seeing what a danger he is.........to all of us. That's a victory of sorts, I guess.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:07 pm
by johnforbes
Clownhicker can break a slice of toast with one hand.
He is a frightening individual, grasshopper.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:28 pm
by sillydaddy
What's the matter with these Republicans in Congress that they stand by and let this stuff go on? ~~~ Clown
But Clown still needs some work....evident by the quote above.
Everything has to be spelled out for him.
Obama didn't tell Congress what he was going to do.
And he didn't tell them because....(say it with me Clown).....because they would NOT have allowed it.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 4:39 pm
by RealJustme
Obama needed a distraction and a photo op, so he violates the law and changes national policy to turn over 5 top terrorist leaders in return for a deserter who hates America. It would be laughable if it weren't so serious.
My question now is why isn't the deserter behind bars now that's he' back in military custody?
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:27 pm
by johnforbes
So, apparently, this fellow Bergdahl went under the wire with a cell phone, food, water, and a knife.
He phoned back a few days later to say he was a deserter.
His father learned Pashto and has tweets favoring the Islamic viewpoint in the war in Afghanistan.
And, in exchange for this deserter, we released 5 Islamic terrorists.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:55 pm
by sillydaddy
They are going to really love us in Europe, if these guys start bombing buildings all over the place there.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:36 am
by RealJustme
They are going to really love us in Europe, if these guys start bombing buildings all over the place there.
If? Not only will they kill again, Obama has given terrorists around the world a huge boost in moral and 5 new Bin Ladens. 6 good soldiers died trying to find the deserter, 100's of good soldiers died in their efforts to capture the 5 terrorists leaders Obama just unlawfully and secretly released...all for a photo op!
Doesn't anyone else consider it odd that the deserter has changed his name to Abdullah? This guy is a terrorist sympathizer who joined ranks with them and helped the top 5 terrorists in captivity get free. Yesterday him and his father said they would continue to work to free all Muslims being held in Gitmo. The greatest scam in history was pulled off for a photo op.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:51 am
by sillydaddy
"Regardless of the circumstances we still get an American soldier back if he's held in captivity. Period." —Obama on Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl
Yes, regardless of the law..the law that he signed saying Congress had to be notified 30 prior to such action.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:42 pm
by brandon
the deserter has changed his name to Abdullah... This guy is a terrorist sympathizer who joined ranks with them and helped the top 5 terrorists in captivity get free. Yesterday him and his father said they would continue to work to free all Muslims being held in Gitmo. The greatest scam in history was pulled off...
If one American is killed through any actions of the 5 terrorist leaders released, Obama should be charge with manslaughter for the death (s).
Wow.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:54 pm
by sillydaddy
CBS reports, Obama administration says the 5 terrorists post no danger, but says if they become active again the US will track them down and re-capture them ! SAY WHAT??
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:21 pm
by RealJustme
CBS reports, Obama administration says the 5 terrorists post no danger, but says if they become active again the US will track them down and re-capture them ! SAY WHAT??
I originally thought this was just another stupid act by Obama for a photo op, but now I suspect it may be more heinous motives.
CNN just reported that Army warned the White House not to release the Terrorists for this guy's release since he was a Taliban sympathizer, the day he deserted the Army picked up radio transmissions where he was trying to make contact with the Taliban while hiding out from soldiers looking for him in a local village. Even with this knowledge the White House ignored laws and in secret released 5 top terrorist leaders for an identified Taliban sympathizer... then sent Susan Rice before the media to call him a hero who served with distinction. No one is a stupid as Obama is pretending to be in this matter.
Treason should be the charge and I'm not talking about the deserter, I'm talking about Obama.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:54 pm
by tvd
I wonder if they were released purposefully in order to hit them with a drone strike in the near future....
That would be some shit, huh?
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:42 pm
by RealJustme
I predicted as soon as this broke that this would be Obama mistake of his Presidency and it's proving to be true. The White House is saying the completely under estimated the public's response to this action and even Pelosi is saying she wasn't in on the decision and had comment when asked if the 5 terrorists should have been released. Harry Reid also said no comment, Hillary Clinton said she found the release to be "interesting" but had no further comment.
Obama said he forgot about "the Law" he signed just 6 months ago requiring him to obtain Congressional approval before releasing any Gitmo prisoners. He forgot the Law he signed, he says he wasn't aware Sgt. Bergdahl left his post, he thought he was a hero captured fighting on the battle field. He wasn't aware there were problems with the VA, he forgot he campaigned to reform the VA.
Obama is a lair!
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:53 pm
by RealJustme
The White House said Tuesday the President had exercised his constitutional authority out of a sense of urgency for Bergdahl’s safety. “Delaying the transfer in order to provide the 30-day notice would interfere with the Executive’s performance of two related functions that the Constitution assigns to the President: protecting the lives of Americans abroad and protecting U.S. soldiers,” National Security Council spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden said in a statement released to the press.
So releasing the top 5 terrorists leaders in return for a deserter who joined the Taliban is in the best interest of protecting Americans and U.S. Soldiers? Not even a 3rd grader would buy into that.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:26 am
by johnforbes
Just the other day, Rice said that Bergdahl served with honor.
At that time, Rice had to know that he was a deserter.
Six brave men died seeking to get him back.
Five terrorist leaders are now on the loose to organize again to kill Americans.
I don't care where anybody is politically; this is insane.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:43 am
by johnforbes
UK Daily Mail has a story that he is a collaborator.
A Taliban leader is telling the British press that Bergdahl helped them make IEDS and roadside bombs.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:16 am
by Intrepid
An attempt to take the VA scandal off the front page has really blown up in the Dear Leader's face. Now even Dianne Feinstein has her granny panties all up in a bunch over not being informed by the Imperial President about what he intended to do. And Susan Rice has been once again revealed to be simply a Useful Idiot dupe who will parrot any line she is fed. How much embarrassment can she stand?
Were this situation in reverse, with a Republican president guilty of such high crimes and misdemeanors, the Usual Suspects on the left would by now be confidently predicting that any minute now everyone from the president on down to the lowliest White House porter would be arrested, handcuffed and, "frog marched" out of the White House.
I will say this: impeachment proceedings should begin at once.
But they won't.
Because everyone is afraid of being labeled a racist.
With every violation of the Constitution that Obongo is allowed to get away with, he becomes more bold and assured of his status of being the Anointed One. At some point he will commit an act so egregious that even his most ardent supporters cannot stomach any more. DiFi may be there already (I'm thinking she was willing to put up with this inept, upstart Chicago thug as long as he furthered the liberal cause, but now he threatens to destroy everything with his bumbling stupidity).
But by then, how much damage will have been done to the Constitution and the country? It is clear that Obongo is out to destroy both the Constitution and the American way of life. How far will he be allowed to go?
I'm thinking something will happen to limit his destructive path.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:17 am
by johnforbes
Even liberal law professor Turley, who voted twice for Obama, has said that this business of Obama ignoring the Constitution has gone too far.
Just with the release of 5 terrorists, Obama violated the law yet again by not informing Congress 30 days before.
Clearly, nobody at the White House even bothered to Google who this deserter Bergdahl was.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:31 pm
by RealJustme
Told you this Obama mistake ever:
BALTIMORE (WJZ) — The Obama administration continues to take heat following the trade of five Guantanamo Bay prisoners for Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl last weekend, and several Democrats are starting to distance themselves from the action.
Congressman Dutch Ruppersberger, the top-ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, calls this a “dangerous precedent that puts all Americans at risk throughout the world.”
Ruppersberger is one of a growing chorus of critics who say five Taliban prisoners is too high a cost.
“Since World War Two we have not negotiated with terrorists or other groups,” Ruppersberger said, according to WJZ’s media partner the Baltimore Sun. “What concerns me is the future. This puts all Americans at risk throughout the world, including our men and women on the front line…for kidnapping. The actions taken in this case can't be justified or defended.”
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:48 pm
by johnforbes
Nixon would have faced impeachment in part because of IRS abuse. Obama's White House did the very same thing.
Obama and Hillary and Rice lied about Benghazi; that is now beyond dispute.
Rice lied again on the Sunday talk shows just a few days ago.
Were Obama Republican, calls for impeachment would long ago have been widespread by Democrats.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 1:03 pm
by RealJustme
Hillary is even dumping on Obama for releasing the 5 terrorists. She said it was something that was discussed as an option while she was Secretary of State but it never occurred to her that they would actually do it. She said she feared the released terrorist could kill more Americans and refused to comment on how she felt about the soldier released other than to say she's glad he's safe.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 1:16 pm
by johnforbes
Obama will probably try to compel military folks around Bergdahl to coach him to say whatever the White House wants.
But this whole thing is a gigantic mess -- getting back a deserter who converted to Islam and referred to himself as a "warrior for Islam" and giving up five terrorists leaders who will certainly soon be orchestrating acts of terror.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:04 pm
by elklindo69
This is a customary prisoner exchange which is a historical custom upon the termination of hostilities.
As if Bush never negotiated with terrorists...
Conservative jerkoffery at it's finest
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:36 pm
by RealJustme
This is a customary prisoner exchange which is a historical custom upon the termination of hostilities.
Elk thinks the Islamic terrorists have terminated hostilities :lol: :lol: :lol:
Obama will probably try to compel military folks around Bergdahl to coach him to say whatever the White House wants.
Obama doesn't trust the military (unless it's imbeciles like Hagel he put in place) ... rest 100% assured Obama has Holder sending his own hand hired Chicago goons in to "Debrief" the deserter with Hagel's full support. They will "help" him get his story correct. Actual military members won't be allowed to even talk to him.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 8:00 pm
by johnforbes
But the war is not over.
The US is not gone totally, and the terrorists have never surrendered or even halted.
Bergdahl was NOT a POW, and surely Obama knew that.
So he lied, and Rice lied when she said Bergdahl was captured on the battlefield and had served with distinction.
They lied about Bergdahl's health. Do they have his medical records? No, they don't.
On Benghazi, the IRS scandal, on Obamacare, they lie over and over.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 8:29 pm
by Clownkicker
johnforbes is fine with gross hypocrisy.
But he draws the line at lying. :lol:
Right wing morality...
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:50 pm
by sillydaddy
"I make absolutely no apologies for making sure that we get back a young man to his parents and that the American people understand that this is somebody's child and that we don't condition whether or not we make the effort to try to get them back,"~~~~~~Obama
Obama accomplished exactly what he set out to do and that was to release 5 top terrorists.
And it doesn't matter to Obama if Bergdahl was a deserter or not........because he has already served his purpose.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:04 am
by johnforbes
The sad thing is that there really will be no end to Obama's attempts to destroy America's greatness.
He will just continue until his term ends.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:04 am
by Clownkicker
"The sad thing is that there really will be no end to Obama's attempts to destroy America's greatness.
He will just continue until his term ends."-johnforbes
So you're saying THERE REALLY WILL BE AN END to Obama's attempts to destroy America?
Immediately after you said THERE REALLY WILL BE NO END?
It takes a special kind of dimwit to completely contradict himself in consecutive sentences.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:30 am
by RealJustme
That's all you have Clown...really that's all you have?
Obama has released 5 terrorist leaders who will plot and kill more Americans and all Clown has is a play on words to defend Obama's actions.
Obama is claiming he took the radical action of releasing 5 terrorists to kill again to protect an American. Remember the liberals' outcries when 2 terrorists were water boarded to obtain information that saved untold numbers of American citizens?
So which President really acted in "America's" best interest, the one who water boarded 2 top terrorists leaders to stop future terrorists attacks, or the President who released 5 terrorist leaders to kill again in order to obtain the release of a deserter who betrayed his fellow soldiers?
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:52 pm
by RealJustme
Obama is in deep shit!
"It comes to us with some surprise and dismay that the transfers went ahead with no consultation, totally not following law," Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif, said Tuesday. "And in an issue with this kind of concern to a committee that bears the oversight responsibility, I think you can see that we're very dismayed about it ."
:o
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:20 pm
by sillydaddy
The Taliban asked for a prisoner exchange figuring they'd be lucky to get back one detainee of little importance with Obama doing his best not to arouse criticism.......I'm sure they did not expect Obama to be willing to put his head in a noose and release 5 top terrorists and sic the whole nation on himself for the glory of Islam.
And to make up for some of their detention....Obama awarded each a one year all expense paid vacation in Qatar, the Islam Riviera.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:48 pm
by johnforbes
Until his political career ends, Obama will continue his class warfare and race-baiting and his other efforts to destroy American greatness.
After politics, Obama will charge upwards of 200k per speech, as Bill Clinton does, and Obama will continue his attempts outside politics to destroy American greatness.
Re: Obama makes biggest mistake of his Presidency
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:25 am
by sillydaddy
Right now I can't imagine anyone wanting to pay any amount to hear Obama speak. He'll be lucky if he's asked to a high school graduation.