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Obama’s ambassador nominees are a disservice to diplomacy
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:05 pm
by sillydaddy
Two Norwegian lawmakers have nominated Edward Snowden, the bête noire of U.S. intelligence, for the Nobel Peace Prize. It is quite possible that this is the Norwegians’ way of showing their displeasure and shame at having the Obama administration nominate a completely unqualified person to be its ambassador to Oslo.
The nominee, a Long Island campaign bundler named George Tsunis, made a fool of himself during his Senate confirmation hearings last month. He was unaware of some of the most basic facts about Norway. He admitted never having set foot in the country, and he seemed to think that Norway, a monarchy, has a president. He also had no idea which political parties constituted Norway’s governing coalition, even though, as ambassador, he would be dealing with them. It seemed, as some later tweeted, that Tsunis had not even bothered to read the Wikipedia page for Norway.
President Obama rewarding big donors with appointments to ambassadorships.
Appointed ambassadors to Norway, Argentina, and Iceland have, for example, never been to any of the countries they are now expected to deal with.
Is there no end to Obama's fuck ups.
Obama has made more political appointments than any other President in US history.
Re: Obama’s ambassador nominees are a disservice to diplomac
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:25 pm
by Grog
"Obama has made more political appointments than any other President in US history."
Not surprisingly, your Fox-sourced Teamail lied again, Silly.
Ambassadorial Appointments - Ronald Reagan
Total Appointees: 420
Career Appointments: 261 / 62%
Political Appointments: 159 / 38%
Ambassadorial Appointments - Barack Obama
Total Appointments: 186
Career: 206 – 63.0%
Political: 121 – 37.0%
http://afsa.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Obama’s ambassador nominees are a disservice to diplomac
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:16 pm
by sillydaddy
As those stats are limited to ambassadorships and may or may not include appointments that were successfully blocked. Obama is by no means the first president to use ambassadorial appointments as a political spoils system; it’s a bipartisan game. But Obama seems to be playing with unseemly enthusiasm these days. During his first term, about two-thirds of the ambassadors were career Foreign Service officers and one-third political appointees, fairly close to the average for previous presidents.
Since his reelection, however, more than half Obama’s appointees have been political, nearly a third of them major campaign fundraisers. Presidents used to sell nights in the Lincoln bedroom to fund their campaigns. Obama has raised the ante to Argentina and Norway.
Re: Obama’s ambassador nominees are a disservice to diplomac
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:37 pm
by Grog
If you're going to C&P you should at least attribute it, unless you want people to think you wrote it.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/02/10/3 ... ments.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Forbes gets a pass because, as everyone does or should, assume everything he posts is a C&P of something he or someone else already posted.
Anyway, I look forward to your learned analysis (complete with links) in which you substantiate ""Obama has made more political appointments than any other President in US history" and "As those stats are limited to ambassadorships and may or may not include appointments that were successfully blocked."
Re: Obama’s ambassador nominees are a disservice to diplomac
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:41 pm
by sillydaddy
I think the point has been made already anyway. Is there no end to Obama's fuck up? My words. But my words or not, You don't dispute the point, you can't. Obama places little or no importance on good foreign relations.
By the way check the stats you posted ..I think you copied the wrong numbers.
Re: Obama’s ambassador nominees are a disservice to diplomac
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:04 pm
by Grog
It's possible, but unlikely I posted the wrong numbers that I obtained from the source I linked.
Instead of behaving like a Fox-viewing Tea Partier and castings aspersions in the hope you may be right, post what you think are the correct ones with a link to your source.
Re: Obama’s ambassador nominees are a disservice to diplomac
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:21 am
by sillydaddy
I originally heard the report on NPR. So I stand by my statement. NPR says in their story, the AFSA made that declaration. I trust their declaration is true.
http://www.npr.org/2014/02/12/275897092 ... appointees
Re: Obama’s ambassador nominees are a disservice to diplomac
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:31 am
by RealJustme
Grog considers NPR a right wing source, only MSNBC works for him :lol: :lol: :lol:
Re: Obama’s ambassador nominees are a disservice to diplomac
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:43 am
by Clownkicker
"I originally heard the report on NPR."-sillydaddy
Does anyone believe sillydaddy listens to NPR?
And if by some fluke, perhaps in a coffee shop, he heard the report on the radio, does anyone believe he would be listening to it while yacking to his friend?
And if by some fluke he listened to it while his friend went to the restroom, does anyone believe he would go to the NPR site to find the story?
Nope, he googled his own plagiarized post and found a more 'acceptable' source to post. :lol:
Re: Obama’s ambassador nominees are a disservice to diplomac
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:28 am
by Grog
Good lord, Silly. You listen to NPR? :lol: The only thing on your radio is Rush, Sean, Levin and probably some station that plays patriotic country music.
Your original source for this was Fox.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/02 ... ign-posts/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You either saw it on Fox or, more likely, you received it in a Teamail that probably had ALERT in the headline.
The numbers I posted at 8:25 last night came from AFSA. That's why I included the link to AFSA.
The NPR article you belatedly posted is generalities, like the Fox story is generalities.
Here is the link again,
http://afsa.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; so that you can do your own research.
Re: Obama’s ambassador nominees are a disservice to diplomac
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:29 pm
by johnforbes
What Grog is doing is the usual lazy liberal stuff of pretending nobody has an idea unless they read it on some web site.
Of course, most of the entire history of mankind in this vale of tears predated the Internet.
And every word Grog speaks, or ever ponders speaking, was some blather he read on a leftist site.
Re: Obama’s ambassador nominees are a disservice to diplomac
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:56 pm
by Grog
The AFSA is a leftist site, eh?
But of course.
Re: Obama’s ambassador nominees are a disservice to diplomac
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:43 pm
by johnforbes
Grog, dial down your dishonesty.
What I said was that each and every "idea" which lurks, or loiters, in your skull was obtained from a leftist web site.
Is that true?
Well, of course not. Nor is it true that non-liberals depend upon Right-leaning web sites for their ideas.
Some of us even know who Burke was.
I would assume some on the Left actually know that Keynes, like Grog, was both gay and leftist.
Re: Obama’s ambassador nominees are a disservice to diplomac
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:35 pm
by Grog
Forbes has been so swept up --a preening dervish, as it were-- with C&Ping himself lately, that he's typing gibberish when he tries something new.
Clearly he's overdue for a purging encounter in the Log(ger) Cabin room of his favorite D.C. bathhouse, The Foley Institute For Page Discipline.
Chuck "Whipmaster" Norris
Re: Obama’s ambassador nominees are a disservice to diplomac
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:54 pm
by johnforbes
Grog should dial down the dishonesty.
What I said was that each and every "idea" which lurks, or loiters, in your skull was obtained from a leftist web site.
Is that true?
Well, of course not.
Nor is it true that non-liberals depend upon Right-leaning web sites for their ideas.
Some of us even know who Burke was.
I would assume some on the Left actually know that Keynes, like Grog, was both gay and leftist.
Keynes was brilliant, a good investor, and totally wrong.
Grog is not brilliant and totally wrong.
Re: Obama’s ambassador nominees are a disservice to diplomac
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:13 pm
by Grog
Forbes is caught in a loop of his own creation due to his burgeoning, tumescent focus on his weekend plans at the Foley Institute.
Scott "Sugar Boy" Baio
Re: Obama’s ambassador nominees are a disservice to diplomac
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:42 am
by johnforbes
Yep, Grog should dial down the dishonesty.
What I said was that each and every "idea" which lurks, or loiters, in your skull was obtained from a leftist web site.
Is that true?
Well, of course not.
Nor is it true that non-liberals depend upon Right-leaning web sites for their ideas.
Some of us even know who Burke was.
I would assume some on the Left actually know that Keynes, like Grog, was both gay and leftist.
Keynes was brilliant, a good investor, and totally wrong.
Grog is not brilliant and totally wrong.