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Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:02 am
by johnforbes
Was he in America legally?
Was the mall a gun-free zone where retired law enforcement and military are not permitted to carry?
Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:43 am
by Clownkicker
^^^^Why is it that these reactionary clowns can't seem to make a point?
Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:49 am
by RealJustme
Just more murders in another liberal city. The tighter the gun restrictions, the more the murders. Another example of why liberals will be tossed out on their asses in the next elections.
Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:02 am
by elklindo69
RealJustme wrote:Just more murders in another liberal city. The tighter the gun restrictions, the more the murders. Another example of why liberals will be tossed out on their asses in the next elections.
It's exactly the opposite...
The United States has more guns and gun deaths than any other developed country in the world, researchers found.
A study by two New York City cardiologists found that the U.S. has 88 guns per 100 people and 10 gun-related deaths per 100,000 people — more than any of the other 27 developed countries they studied.
Japan, on the other hand, had only .6 guns per 100 people and .06 gun-related deaths per 100,000 people, making it the country with both the fewest guns per capita and the fewest gun-related deaths.
Drs. Sripal Bangalore, who works at NYU Langone Medical Center, and Dr. Franz Messerli of St. Luke’s Medical Center studied the statistics of guns per capita and gun deaths. They used firearm injury data from the World Health Organization and guns per capita data from the Small Arms Survey to put together a list of 27 developed countries.
They said they carried out their study because of what they said are seemingly baseless claims on either side of the gun control debate.
“I think we need more of what I would call evidence-based discussion and not merely people pulling things out of their hats,” Bangalore said. “We hear time and time again about these shootings, especially in the last year or so. A lot of claims are made…so we wanted to look at the data and see if any of this holds water.” They concluded that more guns do not make people safer.
David Hemenway, a professor at the Harvard School of Public Health who specializes in injury research and is considered one of the top gun violence researchers in the country, said the there’s “no question” that the relationship between guns and gun deaths is real.
“It shouldn’t be really a surprise to people,” Hemenway said. There are some caveats to the data, such as countries’ records of illegal guns, but it seems to be “reasonable” and on par with previous research, Hemenway said.
The National Rifle Association did not immediately respond to ABCNews.com request for comment.
Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:26 am
by Clownkicker
Watch out, the reactionaries will point to the much higher incidence of Samurai sword deaths in Japan. :o
Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:58 am
by RealJustme
You can't compare Japan to America, Japan still teaches discipline and respect in their schools, less than 8% of children are raised in single parent homes, of course there are less murders there. When is the last time you've seen a herd of Japanese children raiding a department store or attacking people on the street?
Compare apples to apples. Chicago has 6 times the rate of gun murders than Dallas, guns are prohibited in Chicago, 35% of adults in Texas carry conceal, 85% own at least one gun. I rest my case

Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:27 am
by johnforbes
For decades, all of DC was pretty much a gun-free zone, though some court cases added a few nuances.
So how did that work out in DC?
It meant that criminals had plenty of guns and their victims did not.
And no sane person would walk the streets of DC at night.
Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:13 pm
by Grog
Instead of "gun free" zones, we need "gun required" zones!
Colt, Winchester, Ruger et al.
Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:37 pm
by RealJustme
Instead of "gun free" zones, we need "gun required" zones!
You're making progress there Grog, but only the good guys should be allowed to carry guns, any type of drug charges or violent crimes carrying a gun should be a mandatory prison sentence. Random searches of the felons homes should be conducted to insure they don't get guns. If they took those simple steps gun violence would go down 90% or more within a year and the streets would be much safer.
A felony conviction should mean giving up certain rights, the right to own a gun should be one of them the other is their homes and they bodies are open to search at any time, for any reason police feel like doing it. If they stay clean for 15 years with no arrests, they get those rights back.
Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:05 pm
by sillydaddy
Grog is just being sarcastic. He doesnt even want an armed military. What does he call them?....oh yeah!..." Armed young men fueled by testosterone and amped on alcohol in the EM club on Saturday night?.." No, Grog is protecting himself with the shield of "Strawman Logic" and Political Correctness. Grog's motto,"Be Part Of The Solution".
Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:22 pm
by Grog
No. Obviously the military needs all kinds of weapons in battle and such. An alcohol-drenched EM club is not an appropriate venue for armed dudes, especially ones who might start shooting if their favorite sports team is insulted.
I assume and hope you guys will require everyone to be armed at all times in the great nation of Texas.
The Pecos Kid
Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:56 am
by johnforbes
EM clubs are no more ethanol-drenched than O clubs.
There are signs all over Ft Hood proclaiming this or that aspect of combat readiness, but the place is essentially a gun-free zone, so you had trained people disarmed when a slaughter unfolded.
That's the human cost of Political Correctness, and such nonsense is rapidly ending America's greatness.
Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:24 pm
by sillydaddy
Grog is pissed 'cause his Obama Commemorative Plate has not only not increased in value, but is now almost worthless. The only thing that keeps him from using it for his dog's dish, is that Obama is still in office. Hope and Change, Grog.
Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:19 pm
by RealJustme
I was wondering why all of the sudden the media lost interest in this brutal mass murder, then I saw the picture of the shooter...media nothing here, move on.
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Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:32 pm
by Grog
Hmmmm. It's still all over the liberal lamestream media today.
Perhaps you should finally make the switch from watching only Fox News for infotainment.
Rush
Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:48 pm
by johnforbes
Yep, no story now in the Columbia mall shooting.
Unless CNN can go into its usual mode of pinning everything on white racists, it swiftly loses interest.
Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:56 pm
by RealJustme
Hmmmm. It's still all over the liberal lamestream media today.
The only thing the liberal media is talking about is that it was mass shooting with a gun. MSNBC Alex Witt is drawing fire even from some Democrats when he said the shooting was a good thing because it helps the gun control agenda. "There is one good thing that comes from this shooting, it reminds people we need gun control". That's your liberal media.
Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:46 pm
by Clownkicker
"The only thing the liberal media is talking about is that it was mass shooting with a gun. "-RealTool
Yeah, the liberal media aren't talking about a mass shooting at all.
They're only talking about a mass shooting with a gun.
Jesus, RealTool, do you ever go back and read the stupid stuff you mindlessly post?
Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:46 pm
by Grog
No, he doesn't. He doesn't even understand most of it.
Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:58 pm
by johnforbes
Nobody reads the mindless drivel posted by Grog.
Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:30 pm
by elklindo69
50% of Forbes posts refer to his credentials.
Mindless drivel...
Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:34 pm
by Clownkicker
Yup, and the other two thirds are droning on about how FAUXnews isn't funny or witty or worth watching or actual news something like that.
Mindless drivel.
Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:41 pm
by johnforbes
Elkin, I took the trouble to explain that to you before.
When challenged or questioned, then -- and only then -- have I mentioned credentials.
So don't be so dishonest, little boy.
Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:53 pm
by Grog
I see. You're calling yourself a 'nobody,' Forbes? I ask because on this day alone you have responded to me numerous times.
Don't be so self-loathing. Mark Foley, amongst others, has said that you have some redeeming qualities. Or was that redeemable chits?
Who knows? You guys do what feels best. Just try to make it's "legal," like you stipulated before.
Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:02 pm
by RealJustme
Yeah, the liberal media aren't talking about a mass shooting at all.
They're only talking about a mass shooting with a gun.
The liberal media isn't talking about the murder, they're focused on the gun. Had it been a white male shooting two blacks you can rest assured he media would be talking about the shooter and the shooters friends and family. As it is they're screaming about a mass shooting WITH GUN, can leave out the gun or it's not news. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Re: Columbia Mall Killer
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:46 pm
by Grog
Kinda like talking about an automobile accident fatality without mentioning an automobile was involved in the fatal accident?
Silly and Forbes not only understand you, JustFreedManMe, they believe you.
This is another example of why I have pushed for and will continue to push for you and Forbes to have your own Fox News investigative show.
You can show a picture of Rosa Parks and say it's Barack Obama and that will be close enough for your viewers because Parks and Obama are negroes. If someone points out they are not the same person, Forbes can opine that those pointing out Parks and Obama are not the same person, are lying libtard tools that left and lean left.
I look forward to your show and will use some conservative tax dollars to buy a few of the products advertised by your sponsors.