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D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:25 am
by RealJustme
WASHINGTON (AP) -- At least one gunman opened fire inside a building at the Washington Navy Yard on Monday morning, and officials said six people were killed and as many as 10 were wounded, including a law enforcement officer.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:47 am
by Clownkicker
So what's your point?

Are you saying we need even stricter gun laws to stop the violence?
Or are you saying gun owners are just more violent than the rest of us?
Sounds like you believe the only way to stop gun violence is to confiscate guns.

Pretty radical position for a conservative.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:08 am
by RealJustme
So what's your point?
Obama wants D.C.'s gun laws to be the law of the land...look what those laws just did for D.C. ;)

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:19 am
by Clownkicker
So you ARE saying that gun laws need to be stricter or guns need to be confiscated because gun owners are so violent?

Wow.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:05 am
by RealJustme
So you ARE saying that gun laws need to be stricter or guns need to be confiscated because gun owners are so violent?
If it was up to me the only gun law would be to actually punish those who use guns during a crime and that you have to an adult to buy one. As it is now in D.C. criminals who use guns during crimes are processed and let right back on the streets while law abiding citizens aren't permitted to have a weapon for self protection.

By the way NBC news is saying the shooter is a Navy chief petty officer named Rollie Chance. How could they know that for certain and why the rush to blame it on a military person? If the guy was a suspected Muslim they certainly wouldn't be a rush to put that out there. What kind of news agency is it that they have so much hate for the military they rush out allegations before the bodies are even cold?

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:37 am
by Clownkicker
"By the way NBC news is saying the shooter is a Navy chief petty officer named Rollie Chance. How could they know that for certain and why the rush to blame it on a military person? If the guy was a suspected Muslim they certainly wouldn't be a rush to put that out there."-RealJustme

Don't be ridiculous. When the military psychiatrist shot those soldiers in Texas, it was reported the first day that he was a Muslim.
It was also reported that he was in the military.
Did you come out here and ask why they pinned it on a military guy then?
No, you accepted that a military guy was responsible the first day and you called for his head.

You hypocrites are unbelievable.

"What kind of news agency is it that they have so much hate for the military they rush out allegations before the bodies are even cold?"-RealJustme

The same kind of hate you have, apparently.
You blamed the gassing in Syria on Al Qaida on day one without waiting for a shred of evidence that they were responsible.
Your thread is still on the baord so you can't pretend you didn't.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:43 am
by RealJustme
Michelle Obama took a moment out to expressed her heart felt sadness for the victims of today's shooter during a late-morning workshop for local high school students. Michelle was accompanied with several artists, including Estefan and her husband, Emilio, of Miami Sound Machine.

She went on to say she's proud to announce the White House will be hosting a celebration of Latin Music where Gloria Estefan, Romeo Santos, Lila Downs, Marco Antonio Solis and other top Latin musicians will be performing on Monday night. She said the beats and melodies in Latin music are so irresistible that even President Barack Obama "will shake his groove thing".

She told the students that the White House event will be shared with the public over PBS who will be airing the celebration live.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:23 pm
by Clownkicker
^^^^^^RealJustme does the reliable "if you're caught with your pants down, give 'em the old shuck and jive" routine.

He can't even pretend to stay on topic ant more.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:54 pm
by RealJustme
RealJustme does the reliable "if you're caught with your pants down, give 'em the old shuck and jive" routine.
I am on topic.

1- Media tries to blame a military member and discusses why military members are becoming so violent with no proof the shooter is in the military.
2- D.C.'s strict gun control disarmed good citizens and allowed them to be slaughtered by a bad guy.
3- Michelle talks about partying and Barack plans on shaking his bootie after saying her heart went out to victims.
4- Obama tries turning the shooting into a political tool during his speech on the economy.

Concerning the Ft Hood shooting, sure the media was quick to pounce on a military member being involved, but only FOX news reported that he was a Muslim who shouted Allahu Akbar as he killed the people. In fact MSNBC denounced FOX's reporting as being anti-muslim.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:02 pm
by RealJustme
CBS News and NBC News retracted reports about the identification of the Washington Navy Yard shooter on Monday, just minutes after each network reported that the suspect in question was a Navy chief petty officer named Rollie Chance.

CBS's John Miller reported that Chance was a suspect before 1 p.m. on Monday. NBC News later reported the same information and continued to do so past 1 p.m., even after Miller reported that the initial reports about Chance were wrong.

Finally, at 1:05 p.m., NBC political director Chuck Todd tweeted: "NBC News: we are now NOT reporting name of shooter our initial information was wrong; retracting that report. deleting those tweets."
Once again the liberal media tries and fails to find a suspect that fits their agenda.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:10 pm
by Clownkicker
RealJustme hates it when the news companies behave just like he does, jumping to conclusions.

There is one difference, however, between them and RealJustme.
That is, the news companies retract a statement when they find out they are wrong.
RealJustme can have his nose rubbed in irrefutable facts and he still hasn't ever admitted he was wrong about a Muslim, a member of the military, Obama, or a gun owner.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:27 pm
by RealJustme
That is, the news companies retract a statement when they find out they are wrong.
They retract their statements when proven wrong and pretend it never happened. Turns out I was spot on again! This thug had been arrested for a gun crime and then let out.
Aaron Alexis, 34, was arrested in September 2010 after his upstairs neighbor called Fort Worth cops to report that a bullet had been shot into her apartment. The round apparently first traveled through her home’s floor and then the ceiling. The local district attorney subsequently declined to file charges against Alexis.

In early-July, a male roommate of Alexis’s called Fort Worth cops to report his suspicion that Alexis “put unknown substance in gas tank to damage vehicle,” according to a July 5 report. Again no charges were filed against Alexis.j Records indicate Alexis was arrested on two other occasions involving assault and theft but no charges were filed.
Dude you starting to see where the problem is? Passing more laws to restrict the rights of good citizens isn't the solution, following the laws already on the books with punishment is what needs to happen. The Chief Petty Officer NBC and CBS accused of the killings to suit their reporting "wants" needs to sue their irresponsible asses off.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:49 pm
by johnforbes
Re gun laws, it doesn't get much more strict than D.C.

Or Chicago, for that matter.

Result? Both places are havens for violent criminals.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:03 pm
by RealJustme
During his rampage witnesses said he appeared to fire at selected targets and not randomly.
Any bets on what this black thug's targets were?

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:37 pm
by brandon
I'll venture a guess.

I bet the poor baby lost his AA handout contract and got pissed at the Creepy Ass Crackers.

8-)

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:35 pm
by RealJustme
I bet the poor baby lost his AA handout contract and got pissed at the Creepy Ass Crackers.
If Obama had a son he would call whites creepy ass crackers.

The NRA just got a big boost, they're saying "we told you so!" D.C.'s gun control laws failed, they also pointed out this thug had been arrested 3 times for weapon related crimes and never charged in any of them, liberals won't prosecute, there lies the problem.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:49 pm
by johnforbes
Is the Navy Yard a gun-free zone like Ft Hood?

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:28 am
by Clownkicker
" liberals won't prosecute, there lies the problem."-RealJustme

Yeah, we all know how prosecutors hate to convict a black man of a crime. :lol:

More likely it's NRA conservatives who pressure prosecutors not to charge a veteran with a legal concealed carry permit.
Prosecutors have critically limited budgets and staff because of conservative tax cutting for cities and they don't want to waste money prosecuting a losing case that would have NRA backing. You couldn't prove the guy wasn't just cleaning his gun when it went off, and if you tried, the RealJustme clowns would be screaming about how liberals were persecuting a patriot for exercising his 2nd Amendment rights.

You claim liberals are responsible for passing strict gun laws, and then you claim liberals won't put someone in jail for violating gun laws? :lol: Do you guys listen to a word you say?
You can't even recognize your lies anymore.

So I guess you clowns have nothing to worry about then, right? Apparently you believe liberals are all talk.
Then why do you shit your pants over more gun laws if liberals won't prosecute them anyway?

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:08 pm
by elklindo69
RealJustme wrote:
I bet the poor baby lost his AA handout contract and got pissed at the Creepy Ass Crackers.
liberals won't prosecute, there lies the problem.
Well there you go, now you have no reason to fear the gun grabbers....

:lol:

Go back to sleep Justme.............................

:mrgreen:

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:17 pm
by Clownkicker
I've been waiting for RealJustme to return and admit that the media were right that the shooter was a military guy.

And after that he should admit that it was the ready availability of guns that armed the man to shoot his way into the building.
Yup, two days before he went nuts, he walked into a gun store and bought the shotgun he used to take out the security guards of the building.
But does RealJustme come out and support longer waiting periods for weapons purchases that might have prevented this attack on Monday?
Nope. He's silent.
He's a conservative. He believes walking into a store and buying a shotgun for a crime is every citizen's right.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:56 am
by johnforbes
Clownhick's real name happens to be Rollie Dumm.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:18 am
by RealJustme
You claim liberals are responsible for passing strict gun laws, and then you claim liberals won't put someone in jail for violating gun laws?
Exactly, just as they want more taxes on everyone...except themselves. 90% of gun crimes are by liberals, liberals don't want those gun crimes prosecuted but liberals want more gun laws :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:17 am
by Clownkicker
So what you're saying is you admit the media were right in pinning it on a military guy, and that it was the ready availability of guns that allowed this to happen?

Thanks, weasel.

Next topic.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:20 am
by Clownkicker
johnforbes' real name happens to be Moran Dumass.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:27 pm
by johnforbes
Clownhick has hurt my feelings, so I'm leaving the Internet forever.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:49 pm
by Clownkicker
^^^^^^^Yeah, he says that now but dunderhead johnforbes will be back online the next time he puts his morning Hot Pocket in the microwave.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:27 pm
by johnforbes
No way you'll ever see me around here again.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:43 pm
by Clownkicker
Really, johnforbes, Hot Pockets for dinner?

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:23 pm
by johnforbes
Another brilliant riposte.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:27 pm
by Clownkicker
Whereas your dinner: another dull repast.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:15 am
by RealJustme
Notice how the media is avoiding the discussion about D.C.'s strict gun laws failed to stop this shooting. In fact it disarmed citizens who could have fought back.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:14 am
by Clownkicker
Notice how RealJustme avoids the discussion about how strict gun laws in one place are meaningless when someone can simply circumvent them by buying a shotgun in Virginia on Saturday and then drive across the river to commit a crime with it on Monday.

In fact, it was Navy base policies that "disarmed citizens who could have fought back" and not the D.C. laws.

This attention to D.C. gun laws is irrelevant all the way around in this case, and RealJustme knows this already.
So why is he dragging this red herring around?.
Because Breitbart and FOXnews told him to. What a tool.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:54 am
by johnforbes
Gun-free zones become charnel houses.

It is a mistake for military bases to deny guns to trained personnel there.

It leaves them defenseless while they wait for some rentacop or MP to show up with a 9.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:13 pm
by RealJustme
Notice how RealJustme avoids the discussion about how strict gun laws in one place are meaningless when someone can simply circumvent them by buying a shotgun in Virginia on Saturday and then drive across the river to commit a crime with it on Monday.
He bought a shotgun, not an assault rifle. The Obama Administration recommended Americans buy shotguns for self protection, so are you for banning shotguns? The problem wasn't with the shotgun it was with the person who pulled the trigger, he should have been behind bars for past crimes but liberals let him walk every time. We need to be tough on these thugs, lock them up and throw away the key. If they are released there should be a big tattoo on their forehead saying "Can't buy guns"

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:49 pm
by Clownkicker
Notice how RealJustme again avoids the discussion about how strict gun laws had nothing to do with this case.

And a waiting period is not the same as banning shotguns, imbecile.
And liberals had nothing to do with him 'walking' in the past.
It's NRA 'patriots' who made sure he wasn't prosecuted.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:16 pm
by elklindo69
Conservatives cut off funding to the CDC for scientific research into for the causes of gun violence claiming that it was not a public health issue.

And BINGO a mentally ill person goes ape shit bananas with a shotgun...........................

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:39 pm
by RealJustme
There are two facts concerning where one is most likely to get murdered.

1. The stricter the gun laws in the city, the more likely you are to get murdered.
2. The higher percentage of citizens in the city that could be Obama's son, the more likely you are to get murdered.

I rest my case!

:D

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:55 pm
by elklindo69
RealJustme wrote:There are two facts concerning where one is most likely to get murdered.

1. The stricter the gun laws in the city, the more likely you are to get murdered.
2. The higher percentage of citizens in the city that could be Obama's son, the more likely you are to get murdered.

I rest my case!

:D
So says the NRA, but bullet points prepared by pro gun lobbying organization doesn't count as a reputable objective research.

Peer reviewed journal article proves that states which have the weakest regulations have the highest rates of gun homicides...

http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article ... id=1661390

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:44 pm
by johnforbes
But, of course, peer review merely means that people of the same mind took a gander at a given publication.

In some matter of hard science, the ability to replicate an experiment is very important, but it isn't important when essentially some gasbag finds another gasbag in the groves of academe.

Re: D.C.'s strict gun laws have failed

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:51 pm
by RealJustme
Peer reviewed journal article proves that states which have the weakest regulations have the highest rates of gun homicides
Uhhhh
Funding/Support: Dr Hemenway received funding from the Joyce Foundation to conduct and disseminate research on firearms.
The Joyce Foundation is a charitable foundation based in the city of Chicago, Illinois in the United States and operating principally in the broader Great Lakes region. It was established in 1948 by Beatrice Joyce Kean and is dedicated to liberal causes.