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Sequester here we come, Senate gives up, goes home.
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:34 pm
by RealJustme
Well the House passed two Bills but the Senate couldn't get anything through, the sequester will happen at midnight.
I hope at midnight none of the planes falling from the skies hit my house. It'll be bad enough having to step over dead people and starving children just to get to my car tomorrow morning. I guess I better get in the truck and stock up with food and water before the grocery stores all shut down. I'll be stopping by the Church to say some prayers, I'll put a good word in for you guys.
If the internet is still operating tomorrow I'll checkin in to see how everyone is surviving. Not giving that additonal 2% to the budget Obama wanted is going to be devastating. Obama warned us, Congress just didn't listen, Obama will now "be forced" to bring all hell down upon us, he'll teach us, oh yes he will! After he's through with us, next time we'll give him the money.
Re: Sequester here we come, Senate gives up, goes home.
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:19 pm
by elklindo69
Nobody cares any more, people have become desensitized to political brinkmanship and fear tactics.It's the new normal.
Re: Sequester here we come, Senate gives up, goes home.
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:34 pm
by Leroy
elklindo69 wrote:Nobody cares any more, people have become desensitized to political brinkmanship and fear tactics.It's the new normal.
Not true, most liberals and low information voters believe the fear mongering of the democrats about the harm the sequester will cause the country... Talk to your typical union member, your typical democrat, they actually believe teachers are getting pink slips because of the sequester, and we're not even in the sequester yet.
Notice how people/msm are not mentioning the next month, when we have another government shut down scheduled because the democrats won't stop spending, won't cut programs, only want to increase spending...
Re: Sequester here we come, Senate gives up, goes home.
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:13 pm
by elklindo69
Leroy wrote:elklindo69 wrote:Nobody cares any more, people have become desensitized to political brinkmanship and fear tactics.It's the new normal.
Not true, most liberals and low information voters believe the fear mongering of the democrats about the harm the sequester will cause the country... Talk to your typical union member, your typical democrat, they actually believe teachers are getting pink slips because of the sequester, and we're not even in the sequester yet.
Notice how people/msm are not mentioning the next month, when we have another government shut down scheduled because the democrats won't stop spending, won't cut programs, only want to increase spending...
Do you have any numbers to back that up???
Re: Sequester here we come, Senate gives up, goes home.
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:14 pm
by Leroy
Do you have any numbers to dispute it?
Re: Sequester here we come, Senate gives up, goes home.
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:18 pm
by elklindo69
The only people who fear the sequester are the government workers.
Especially the military folks, Generals are hitting the media circuit claiming that national security is in jeopardy. Fear mongering in full effect, claiming that national security is in jeopardy. It never ceases to amaze me how strong fear is as a motivator. We can cut the military budget by 50% and we would still have a more than adequate level of defense.
Re: Sequester here we come, Senate gives up, goes home.
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:35 pm
by Leroy
elklindo69 wrote:The only people who fear the sequester are the government workers.
Especially the military folks, Generals are hitting the media circuit claiming that national security is in jeopardy. Fear mongering in full effect, claiming that national security is in jeopardy. It never ceases to amaze me how strong fear is as a motivator. We can cut the military budget by 50% and we would still have a more than adequate level of defense.
Um, you need to watch the Obama machine - they are claiming:
1) Kids will die from lead poisoning
2) Kids will die from malnutrition
3) Hundreds of thousands will be put out of work immediately
4) National Security will be compromised and our citizens will be killed
5) Our military will be compromised for years and our troops will be killed
6) Old people will die
7) Young people will die
8) Energy prices will dramatically increase
9) Food safety will suffer and people will die...
And more and more each day
Oh, and lets not forget that the Obama administration has ALREADY released criminals from prison in preparation for EXPECTED minor budget cuts THAT HAVE NOT HAPPENED YET.
Re: Sequester here we come, Senate gives up, goes home.
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:09 pm
by RealJustme
Um, you need to watch the Obama machine - they are claiming:
1) Kids will die from lead poisoning
2) Kids will die from malnutrition
3) Hundreds of thousands will be put out of work immediately
4) National Security will be compromised and our citizens will be killed
5) Our military will be compromised for years and our troops will be killed
6) Old people will die
7) Young people will die
8) Energy prices will dramatically increase
9) Food safety will suffer and people will die...
You forgot flights won't be safe because he'll have to pull traffic controllers and waiting lines at airports will be hours longer because he'll have to pull TSA workers and the last one is he'll have to release dangerous criminals (oops he already started that one).
Carlos
Re: Sequester here we come, Senate gives up, goes home.
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:12 am
by BilboBagend
Yep, Senate could not pass a bill because Senate Republicans filibustered everything that was put forward.
Re: Sequester here we come, Senate gives up, goes home.
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:02 am
by BilboBagend
and now to the rhetoric of the delusional, corrupt, and liar class.
1) Obamaquester: the lie that the entire fault of the totally disastrous sequester lies on Obama.
2) It's not so bad The argument that their above contradictory and continuing lie is nor relevant. Why do they make obvious contradictory statement? Because they know they have lost the argument and it's predominately their fault and the American people know it.
Both and dishonest attempts to disconnect themselves from their malignant intents.
One thing we know about this crop of Republican leaders. They don't want the American public to know their platforms, intents or the consequences of their actions.
Re: Sequester here we come, Senate gives up, goes home.
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:00 am
by RealJustme
Once again Obama lied, life goes on.
The Obama Administration spent over 30 Million dollars holding "community organization scare meetings" across the United States over the last 30 days rather than working on a soution...D day passes and life goes in America. In fact this morning Michelle and her staff with over 50 Secret Service Agents left this morning to attend a "friends" wedding in Chicago, obviously Obama doesn't feel sacrifices are needed, it would be hypocritical of Obama to say Americans must suffer because he didn't get more tax money.
What it's costing for Michelle to attend her friend's wedding would provide housing for 500 homeless for a year, obviously Obama is demonstrating what is more important to him.
Re: Sequester here we come, Senate gives up, goes home.
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:12 am
by Leroy
BilboBagend wrote:Yep, Senate could not pass a bill because Senate Republicans filibustered everything that was put forward.
What we know, for a fact, is that the Democrats and Obama block every bill because it doesn't have INCREASED TAXATION in it, INCREASED SPENDING in it, and, Democrats have not passed a Budget in almost 5 years and have made claims that they don't really need a budget - even though it's legally required.
So, Republicans have created and proposed budgets, have proposed spending cuts to remove the sequester, have proposed spending cuts that would eliminate the need to raise the debt ceiling, but, the Democrats have refused to pass anything that does those things.
Re: Sequester here we come, Senate gives up, goes home.
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:35 am
by BilboBagend
Filibuster: a PROCEDURAL rule untended to extend DISCUSSION of a bill.
NOT a rule intended to prevent legislative action.
NOT a rule intended as a common everyday action used to prevent the will of the people.
as it is used by the modern new extreme radical reactionary Republican Senators.
Suggestion:
A new procedural rule for both houses of congress:
All bills may be called to a final up or down vote by a single member in the last 30 days of any session of Congress in both houses.
Re: Sequester here we come, Senate gives up, goes home.
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:40 am
by Leroy
BilboBagend wrote:Filibuster: a PROCEDURAL rule untended to extend DISCUSSION of a bill.
NOT a rule intended to prevent legislative action.
NOT a rule intended as a common everyday action used to prevent the will of the people.
as it is used by the modern new extreme radical reactionary Republican Senators.
Suggestion:
A new procedural rule for both houses of congress:
All bills may be called to a final up or down vote by a single member in the last 30 days of any session of Congress in both houses.
So, what do you do when one side, the Majority, proposes completely irresponsible or unreasonable bills?
Re: Sequester here we come, Senate gives up, goes home.
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:56 am
by Leroy
Here is a good example of the Obama/Clinton math that is a complete lie:
"instead of $1.2 trillion in spending cuts called for by the sequester over the next decade, Obama would add more than $1 trillion in revenues, while cutting outlays only about $600 billion. And much of those aren't real cuts, but tiny reductions in projected spending growth over the next decade."
So, Odumbass, like Clinton, uses fake cuts, to claim spending cuts, which really are not cuts at all. This is why the Republicans won't cave, Obama is only INCREASING spending or Decreasing INCREASES on the backs of the working people.
Re: Sequester here we come, Senate gives up, goes home.
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:58 am
by snakeoil
I see the filibuster rule being discussed. Doesn't this rule fly in the face of the Supreme Court's "One Man-One Vote" decision?