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I just had a friend that is going through a hard time with his wife, they are going to counseling. I told him it is a two way street, both have to work at it. He said he was told about the wife that met her husband at the door for sex. I want to know how many of you have had your wife do that?

I have once in a Sweet Shirt that is his favorite place to go. Way back when when it was popluar in the 60's maybe 70's I don't know if women didn't spend lots of money on lingerie or it just wasn't out and they used suran wrap. Well I met my husband in that one time. I believe that dates are something that you should conitinue to do and something that takes both peoiple in the marriage to do. It isn't just the man's responsibility.

A guy here, Di, and I find I have to agree with you, wholeheartedly.

As a divorced male, I can feel for your friend....working at a marriage can be tough. Sometimes its salvageable, sometimes it simply cant be salvaged. Counseling is the way to go.....3rd party input can be helpful. I tried that, but my ex-wife simply would not come to counseling, so, obviously, it wouldnt work. The thing is, well, as much as one person might want to make it work, if the other partner has given up, it simply will not work....pure and simple.

Now, as for dates and "meeting at the door". You know, I have heard lingerie is not for her, but for him. I dont think its true really. I actually think the lingerie is more for her. Correct me if Im wrong, but it gives her that extra "oomph" to make her feel sexy, and ergo, "in the mood". Now, I like my girlfriend to wear lingerie, but, really almost anything can be sexy if worn right. Something as unsexy as a plaid flannel shirt, if worn right....wow! Thing a few buttons undone, casual look, braless.....I dont think Im alone here with that!

Viper: I agree with you. I don't think lingerie is just for the man's eyes since he is visual. I am addicted to buying lingerie.....I love it, and I love wearing it for my hubby. I also agree I have worn a tux shirt I purchased from good ole Michael's and did my hair up, had heels and thigh highs and the black and white was so striking. We all have seen gals in their guys shirts, they can really rock, I agree.

I have to say I am intrigered when I hear guys opinions. It just intersts me so very much. Thank you for sharing.

There two gals in shirts today the 27th, did you check them out?

I did, and very nice, but well, what I really like is a smoking sexuality that isnt, well, intended. I know the scope here, where folks are having pics taken of them is inherently purposeful by nature of the fact, but what about a gal who is hot without even trying to be hot?
For instance.....simply watching her shower while she has no idea....entertaining. How about we go with the plaid shirt I mentioned above, but she is now out there working in the garden, its hot, a few buttons undone, she's bending every so often....concentrating on her work...

eh, my ramblings

Try the pictures: What I Saw on the home page, those are taken without the gal knowing they are or maybe in some cases they notice they are having a picture taken by a stranger. Seems to be lots of them at events that are painted up, or on the beaches.

http://www.voyeurweb.com/contributions/comments/375965/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Check this out.....

I have never had this done to (for?) me. I would enjoy it, not only for the surprise of it, but also because it would mean she was thinking about me and wanted to do something special.

Thinker: Sorry no one has every done that for you. I remember a friend of ours and his girlfriend showed up in a trench coat with nothing under it. He was young and I sure he was happy.

Viper: i posted her link but guess I did it wrong on Coff link under private, and CDL povided the correct link. Post her link here.....it is okay to do that. Then go under the board with the section her picture is and leave the link there. More people will check it out. CDL said: Nice tits and tummy. Hopefully he voted too and left a comment.

DoubleD: I am sure your friend appreciated his gf's efforts. I am sure it will happen to me sometime. I am newly "back on the market." It will take me a little time to get back into dating. Yes, I'm an optimist.

Good luck and have fun on the dating scene Thinker! I think you will find that sometimes having a past behind you helps to ensure a better future since you can draw from that experience, DD has lots of good advice regarding relationships and brings up many great topics here.

As far as the lingerie comment from Vipermoray, I agree with you there! I love going out and purchasing a new sexy bra, panties, negligee, etc. I love the feeling of putting it on and to me the very best is when he least expects it (say coming home from work), meet him in such at the door.

My advice if you want to encourage the wife/gf to "be more in the mood" or "meet you at the door" I recommend going out and buying a gift card to Victoria's Secret or some other lingerie store and surprising her with it. This will allow her to go and purchase something that she feels comfortable in, which fits her perfectly, and have fun while shopping. Maybe have a "fashion show" when she gets home from shopping, or tell her to surprise you that week in any outfit she chooses.

Viper: http://forums.voyeurweb.com/viewtopic.p ... 817#p19817" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; go this link and see what CDL and RETO said....oh my the comments are great they are leaving on the link you provided and voting for her.

Thinker, remember.....you aren't alone. The person I was talking about his wife has never done it and they are in their 50's. He has been married for years and years.....maybe you can see why they are going through counseling. LOL no it is something other than that.

Point from there is don't pick someone that is a prude. Another thing is once you establisedh a relationship you might have to hint and say this is my fantasy....and explain. Okay, I know most guys fantasy is to have two women at one time, but you don't have to let her know that right off. Then I don't know maybe every guy has a different fantasy.

Kiki and DD, you two can be in my 2 women fantasy. I'll dream up something very nice tonight.

Kiki, I am taking your advice about the past. All I have to say is that I want to thank Karen for teaching me. Many women have benefited from your advice to me.

DD, You are absolutely right (as if you needed me to tell you!). Discussing fantasies early in a relationship is a good idea. Why just hope the other can figure it out? You never know what will happen.

Thinker: Can't wait to hear about your dating experience. I will hold my breath until I hear some great news from you. Thanks for the compliment. Okay you can have all the fantases you want.....I think it a health thing. I once read that women should fantasie (sp) about someone when making love. Now get that one.....I know guys think about how a women would look without her clothes on. So why not play the game too.