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By johnforbes
#137844
Even though Mr Forbes is energetic, he did not himself count up the 21 major lies which the "debate" moderators let Kamala skate by on.

They included the Charlottesville nonsense, and the Project 2025 hoax, and the 34 "felony" count stuff, etc.

ABC was even more unfair than expected...
By johnforbes
#137847
Here are some of them:
There were 21 major instances where Kamala said something untrue and the moderators from ABC did nothing to fact-check her:

1) The "very fine people" Charlottesville hoax appeared yet again

2) She said Trump favored Project 2025, but he has said again and again he not only won't follow it, but hasn't even read it

3) Trump would be a "dictator from day one"; Trump once joked at a rally that it might be fun to be a dictator for just one day and fix things

4) Kamala sought to blame the Afghan withdrawal mess on Trump

5) She said Putin would be "sitting in Kiev" if Trump got reelected

6) She said Trump had said it would be a "bloodbath" if he were not elected again, but what he said was it would be a bloodbath in the auto industry (which it would)

7) Trump refused to rent to blacks (an old lie)

8) Kamala never said she would ban fracking (yes she did, and on video)

9) Kamala said she and Biden ramped up oil production. False, they lessened it.

10) She claimed Trump wants a national sales tax (false)

11) She said Trump left the US with the most unemployment since the Great Depression (clearly false)

12) She said she was raised middle class. Nope, raised in affluent Westmount in Quebec where her father was a Marxist econ professor

13) She said Trump would terminate the Constitution. Absurd.

14) She and Biden had "not one" soldier in a war zone (false)

15) She didn't want to ban guns (false, and she has campaigned on banning AR-15s)

And on and on...
By Clownkicker
#137848
Besides all the lies above that johnforbes just told about Harris, he somehow overlooked posting all the lies Trump told.

Why is that? What is it with hypocrite johnny who gets so 'outraged' about lies he simply claims (without any evidence) others told but he couldn't care less about all the verifiable lies that Trump told?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/here-are- ... -unchecked

And on and on...
By johnforbes
#137852
Trump was "fact-checked" (to use the juvenile expression) by those two "journalists" from ABC.

Kamala never was, so the debate was biased in favor of Kamala.

Yes, Trump's staffers were crazy to send him into such a biased mess, but even with 3 on 1 the undecided voters are going for Trump.

Dana Walden, the Disney exec with oversight of ABC, is a lifelong friend of Kamala, so perhaps that explains the biased debate
By Clownkicker
#137854
johnny, Trump was fact checked a total of FOUR times. But that had to be done because his lies are so moronic.

He was called on things like the ridiculous lie that immigrants were eating people's pets or that Harris had met with Putin before the Ukraine invasion when she hadn't. Or that the Central Park Five had pleaded guilty to murder when they hadn't. That's public record and not debatable. Harris didn't lie about asinine things like that. And that's what explains what you call a "biased debate." Yes, the truth does tend to bias people against a pathological liar saying blatantly fantastic and false things.

Besides, if ABC is overseen by a friend of Harris, but you claim Trump easily won the debate, then what's your problem?
According to you, Harris having a friend at Disney didn't decide the debate so why bitch about something that of course Harris' friend didn't do a thing to influence? (And you don't get to blame Harris or Trump's campaign for the ABC venue. Trump himself had agreed to that months ago.)

What I want to know is why are you so adamant that Trump should be allowed to simply lie with impunity? Don't you think he can win if he is restricted to only telling the truth? No, he probably couldn't. I tend to agree with you on that.
By elklindo69
#137856
Not to mention the one where Trump claimed that babies are being executed.

I'm not even sure what to say about that one? That's just mind boggling. It's as if Trump just lost all of his shit.
By johnforbes
#137858
My staff members have done extensive fact-checking, and one thing emerges with crystal clarity:

To preserve kittens, citizens should vote Trump.
By Clownkicker
#137861
Yes, the guy johnforbes is going to vote for says Democrats want to kill babies after they have been delivered. And he thinks it is unacceptably "biased" to call the clown for such made up stupid shit.

That's how insane Trump supporters are. Like johnforbes, they see it as "biased" to interrupt a ranting nut job to explain that no one has proposed killing babies after they have been delivered.

The worst part about it is Trump supporters actually believe that sort of idiocy to be true and nothing anyone can say will ever change their minds. There are no limits to the Looney Tunes cognitive dissonance johnforbes can hold in his head and still consider himself to be a "pillar of sanity."
By johnforbes
#137873
Mr Forbes, despite his tan and taut physique, is a sensitive soul who likes kittens.

Clown and Elkin spent most weekends with their pals from Haiti BBQing...

That is the truth, not haiti speech...
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