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Mr Forbes takes climate change seriously because (as is widely known, or at least suspected) he has a Ph.D. in climate science from the University of Twitter.

In that regard, he has learned that:

"In what amounts to dissension from National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) climate change policy, a series of just-released studies by working-level scientists prove that geological and not atmospheric forces are responsible for melting of Earth’s polar ice sheets."

Once again johnforbes posts unattributed bullshit from his handlers' social media websites instead of facts from scientific websites.

"FULL CLAIM: In what amounts to dissension from National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) climate change policy, a series of just-released studies by working-level scientists prove that geological and not atmospheric forces are responsible for melting of Earth’s polar ice sheets.

This article at Climate Change Dispatch points to two studies published on geothermal heat flow beneath ice sheets to support its claim: one on the Greenland Ice Sheet1 and one on a portion of Antarctica2. However, neither study makes or supports the claim that geothermal heat—rather than human-caused global warming—is the driver of glacial ice loss. The Climate Change Dispatch article was published in August 2018, but has continued to spread across social media and reappear through posts on other websites, leading to more than 40,000 shares on Facebook at the time of this review.

In 2017, one of the authors of this study (NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Senior Research Scientist Erik Ivins) was contacted by the fact-checking website PolitiFact. Ivins told them: “The study itself is about steady state conditions that would exist at the bottom of the ice sheet for many many millions of years. We think of climate change as occurring 10 years, 100 years, maybe 500 years—our study has nothing to do with those time scales[…]Nothing in our paper has anything to do with climate change.”

The Greenland study1 evaluated the geologic cause of the pattern of geothermal heat flows around Greenland and concluded that the pattern is likely the result of a hot portion of the Earth’s mantle passing beneath Greenland 50 to 80 million years ago. (That portion of the mantle now lies beneath Iceland.)

The study makes no mention of geothermal heat flow causing a net loss of ice from Greenland over the last century. It does not describe a recent change in geothermal heat flow, but rather a geographic pattern of heat flow with an ancient origin.-Science Feedback
https://sciencefeedback.co/claimreview/ ... ard-kamis/


johnny's misunderstanding of this subject is just like his misunderstanding of the difference between weather and climate time frames. Only this time it isn't the difference between weather (days and weeks) and climate (decades and centuries) but is instead the difference between geological time (millions of years) and climate change time frames (hundreds of years.)

Thanks to Clowntroller for his usual gracious acceptance of genuine science, which takes a cold and neutral look at new facts, and accepts the true empirical nature of actual science.

Happy to help mitigate the gross ignorance from your empty head any time, johnny.

To recap then: first comes incredibly long geological time spans, then comes intermediate climate change times, and then comes immediate weather-related time spans. They are not interchangeable so don't confuse them, johnny.

You're quite welcome.

If memory serves, Gross Ignorance From an Empty Head was the title of Clowntroller's first autobiography.

The New York Times called it "A poignant saga of social strife sweeping across the generations..."

^^^^^^^ As always, whenever johnforbes realizes he was duped once again by his partisan handlers, he resorts to desperate attempts at diversion from his humiliation by trying (and failing) to be funny.

Clown's assertion is the polar opposite of the truth.

Au contraire, Mr Forbes resorts to returning to the topic like a homecoming laser beam.

The polar ice apparently is not melting due to Global Warming, but other factors if at all.

Yes, johnny, you are indeed a moron.

Come on, man.

Everyone knows that there is no polar cap.

It is too cold there for an ordinary cap, and instead people wear watch caps.

Or Elmer Fudd hats.