Political discussions about everything
By johnforbes
#124748
Biden has wrinkles.

According to Snake, the key to ascertaining merit is to look at a person's physical characteristics.

Therefore, Biden is a moron pursuant to Snake's doltish standards.
By Clownkicker
#124751
Only snakeoil has never said that Trump is a moron because he is a fat pig, johnny.

He says Trump's a moron because he can't talk and he's ignorant of things like COVID-19 and the effects of dismantling the NSC White House pandemic response team, as well as Trump saying average people don't need testing to go to work while he and everyone around him is tested daily before they go to work.

Stop using your doltish standards to put words in people's mouths just because you don't like the facts they show you.

It's like you lying about me talking about Trump's skin color when all I ever talk about is his makeup. You don't like the truth so you blame me for the type of racism you yourself exhibit here about Obama's lips and ears; things he was born with and can't help, unlike Trump's absurd masquerade getup.
By johnforbes
#124753
No, Snake made the biggest mistake of all -- he assumed that intelligence belonged to people he agreed with politically.

That is a common mistake, but a huge one.
By Clownkicker
#124755
snakeoil made no such mistake, johnny. You made it up. He posted many links to back up his assertion.

Meanwhile YOU are making the YUGE mistake of thinking Trump is somehow intelligent just because you agree with him.

And you have posted ZERO links to any information to back up your nonsense that anyone can see is idiotic.
By johnforbes
#124758
Sure, he did.

Snake seems like a nice enough fellow, but he wouldn't have started the thread if he had not assumed -- in deep naivete -- that intelligence was something associated with his own political opinions.

Marx was a very bright fellow, but he was wrong.

Adam Smith was very bright, and far more correct.
By Clownkicker
#124765
"Snake seems like a nice enough fellow, but he wouldn't have started the thread if he had not assumed -- in deep naivete -- that intelligence was something associated with his own political opinions."-johnfibs

You couldn't possibly know that, johnny. Someone could have started this thread for a number of reasons NOT merely an assumption. You simply pulled it out of your ass.

In fact, snakeoil started this thread with many examples of Trump's mental failures. You on the other hand start all your idiotic threads without examples, any evidence, or even any thoughts of your own. That's because you actually do exactly what you accuse snakeoil of doing.

Your big mistake is you believe anyone who doesn't think Trump is a "stable genius" has no reason to believe he isn't too bright. That's what keeps you hopelessly ignorant in the face of Trump's relentless ignorance and recklessness. You are nothing more than a mindless partisan hack. You can't offer anything that demonstrates Trump's alleged intelligence, let alone his self-declared "genius".
By johnforbes
#124770
Of course he made that mistake.

It is the mistake most commonly made in political discussion.

He hates Trump, so he judge him by skin tone (racism) and assumed IQ was the same was political opnion.

I don't blame him for that, but it also isn't a sign of high IQ.
By sillydaddy
#124777
I read a good part of those links oil posted...
and as I said before..they were posted by whiny liberals bitching about budget cuts...
Bitching, "Trumps cuts this and Trump cuts that..". But offering little as to why the cuts were a mistake....
Funny the liberals say Trump has accomplished nothing....
I guess becoming President in the eyes of liberals is an everyday task, like putting on your shoes....
Trump is a genius...
He said he wanted to be President and beat others who had been preparing for the office most of their lives..!
He has been accused of knowing nothing about being President...yet he has used his instincts and
despite all that has been thrown at him has managed to hold on to the office... :O :laugh:
By Clownkicker
#124778
"He hates Trump, so he judge him by skin tone (racism)..."-johnfibs

johnny, NO ONE here has EVER judged Trump by his "skin tone". You made it up because you have nothing.
Again, Trump's clown makeup is not his skin tone. That you think his makeup is his skin tone only proves your own low IQ. Stop repeating that idiotic partisan propaganda lie.

"... and assumed IQ was the same was political opnion."-johnfibs

Again, you're making it up. You drone on about things that are proven to be utter lies.
People believe Trump now has a low IQ, not just because he is incorrigible, but because he can barely speak English at a high school special education level and everything he does is based on ignorance of the facts. It is always motivated by mere self interest at the expense of the country and our relations to the rest of the world.

If his foolishness with Kim in North Korea (where they are testing missiles more than ever and building nuclear weapons as always. We gained less-than-nothing from Trump's dealings with NK) and the foolishness with bailing on the Iran nuclear deal (where Iran is now spinning centrifuges and enriching nuclear material faster than when Trump took office, as everyone warned him would happen) doesn't prove to you that Trump isn't too bright, then nothing will. We are less safe today than we were when Trump took office. Trump has a track record of foolish moves that can't be disputed as being foolish. Bright people don't ignore all of their knowledgeable advisors and do that sort of thing. That he ignores his own experts is proof of his low IQ more than anything you can come up with.

"It is the mistake most commonly made in political discussion."=-johnflubs

Then stop making that mistake yourself and look at the facts, johnny. You believe Trump is smart solely because you agree with him. His actions certainly aren't smart. And that is a demonstrable fact.

You just can't face the fact that despite whatever IQ test you may have taken in the past, you just aren't that bright either.
You regularly repeat lies that you have been shown to be lies with irrefutable evidence. You aren't even smart enough to watch a video and listen to Trump say "Take it!" That's how dumb you are.
By johnforbes
#124779
I was being totally fair to Clownslacker.

He was the first member of his extended family to break into double digits on an IQ test.
By Clownkicker
#124781
^^^^^^^ And there it is. johnny's IQ is so low he can't even refute a thing I said.

If he's so bright, why can't he ever argue a point or even admit when he's wrong?

If you behave exactly like a stupid person, people believe you are stupid, johnny. Both Trump and you.
By johnforbes
#124784
As the twilight surrenders to velvet dusk, my alert staffers spotted one comment which deserved to be highlighted. They take the liberty of appending it herewith:


Of course he made that mistake.

It is the mistake most commonly made in political discussion.

He hates Trump, so he judge him by skin tone (racism) and assumed IQ was the same was political opnion.

I don't blame him for that, but it also isn't a sign of high IQ.
By elklindo69
#124786
Johnnie...parroting stupid shit like a 10 year old in regards to how you can't prove if social distancing works to stop the spread of a coronavirus (a respiratory disease) or how hydroxycholoroquine is supposed to effective in treating coronavirus because Trump claimed some French voodoo doctor said so....now even Trump and the right wing blogosphere have gone quiet on this on.

Hey...but don't blame me....I'm not the guy that bankrupted casinos and who has a COVID-19 outbreak in his own house wants to gamble with your life.
By johnforbes
#124799
Forget Trump.

Look up Didier Raoult, who has MD and PhD degres and has actually treated covid patients.

He found 91 percent efficacy with no cardiac consequences.

Thus -- and we no doubt both concur on this -- we need a really big, good, scientific study of HCQ versus other therapy.

I would be more happy if the Gilead drug worked as an investor, but my goal in mentioning HCQ is to see what works.

E.g., why are areas where HCQ is given to prevent malaria not having much covid? Accident?
By sillydaddy
#124804
That he ignores his own experts is proof of his low IQ more than anything you can come up with.
Clown, if your idea of having a higher IQ is waiting for others to tell you what to do then
It would not surprise me if you were born with handlebars ...!

The other day, in an interview, Fauci admitted he knows nothing about the coronavirus.... :O :laugh:
By Clownkicker
#124805
sillydummy, an idiotic lie is not an argument, either from johnforbes nor you.

A president can't know about everything. The job is too large for any one man to understand it all without the advice of experts.

If your idea of having a higher IQ is making life or death decisions while ignoring the advice of experts in areas where you are totally ignorant, then I already KNOW you have a double-digit IQ.... :O :laugh:
By johnforbes
#124810
Diver, do you have MD and PhD degrees?

Do you run a virology clinic?

Are you the most famous virologist in some country?

If not, perhaps you should do a little research before flapping your gums?
By elklindo69
#124816
Johnnie you claimed that there is no way it can be proven that social distancing works.

Do you have MD and PhD degrees?

Do you run a virology clinic?

Are you the most famous virologist in some country?

If not, perhaps you should do a little research before flapping your gums?

You're stinking up the board again with your hypocrisy...
By sillydaddy
#124826
Clown, Yet Trump is President, because he works hard at remaining President ...
and listening or not listening to "experts" has nothing to do with it..! that's the genius..! :O :laugh:
By divermouse
#124849
well john I did do a 2 min read on the man. and no i am not a dr of any sort. you caught me! though for some reason have many friends with phd's in medicine, law, eng, I make no claim to be the smartest guy in the room. but I am smart enough to identify a possibility of a cure over BS hope.

watch this. I can admit I was excited about HCQ sounded great... in HIS study of 20 patients. but alas it did not work out in the OTHER multitude of studies. so I and the rest of the world moved on. continued looking, seeking for results. not wasting time on a failed hypothesis. continued testing is how you get there. not digging in on failure. smart guys know you will have many failures, you will be the sugar cookie before you get the pin.

NOW can you please explain to the class why it is that you mr smarter than all, (though your ass gets comically handed to you regularly), why it is that you think a singular small study outweighs the plethora of studies where it did not have the same outcome as hoped. further explain why you stay committed to an error. does not sound that smart after all. mr intelligence mr muscle. more like mr spoiled disinformation spreader brat in a candy store.

I don't blame you for being a spoiled brat disinformation spreader. it appears to be your paid job to support BS liars. is all that money (your also the richest?) worth destroying your country for? you should quit, you know you don't belong. you know you 're sheep follower, not a leader. just quit. save yourself the embarrassment . I honestly do think you are smarter than the crap that comes out of your mouth so please apply it. THINK or QUIT. ring the damn bell. or does russia have that much hold over you?
By johnforbes
#124856
Over 1 million people have experience with the minimal cardiac aspects of HCQ.

Well over 1000 were tested, with over 90 percent efficacy.

In almost every country outside the U.S. -- in India, China, Brazil, and so forth -- HCQ plus Zpack plus zinc is being used and it is helping with this novel coronavirus.

As for me personally, the Gilead drug would help me as an investor, but unlike the little leftists here -- deranged young chaps like Clown and Diver -- I would actually like to see something help sick people.
By elklindo69
#124926
johnforbes wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 3:33 pm Over 1 million people have experience with the minimal cardiac aspects of HCQ.

Well over 1000 were tested, with over 90 percent efficacy.

In almost every country outside the U.S. -- in India, China, Brazil, and so forth -- HCQ plus Zpack plus zinc is being used and it is helping with this novel coronavirus.
Johnnie...how the fuck could you possibly know this?

When you make up bullshit...at least make it good and believable bullshit.

Good bullshit is at least believable. What you are claiming is nonsensical. Who are trying to emulate? Jared Kushner or something?
By Clownkicker
#124930
I think it's time for johnfibs to read something a bit more current on his 'harmless' drug HCQ.

"A study of Veterans Affairs patients hospitalized with the coronavirus found no benefit and higher death rates among those taking hydroxychloroquine, researchers said last month.
More than 27 percent of patients treated with hydroxychloroquine died, and 22 percent of those treated with the combination therapy died, compared with an 11.4 percent death rate in those not treated with the drugs, the study said."


"“There’s a misperception out there that the EUA means that the FDA has approved the drug,” said Aaron S. Kesselheim, a professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School. “That’s wrong, of course, but it’s a widespread misconception driven by irresponsible statements from certain politicians and members of the media.”
Goodman and Kesselheim are among a growing number of medical experts calling for the FDA to revoke its emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine in light of new evidence about its risks. "


"Many public health officials have called for Trump to defer to his medical experts, a push that intensified last month after the president pondered aloud whether light or disinfectant could be used internally to kill the coronavirus.

“Data-free advocacy for projects rarely turns out well,” said Peter Lurie, a former top FDA official and president of Center for Science in the Public Interest who has criticized the promotion of hydroxychloroquine by politicians. “This was a product that never had a solid basis for believing it worked, and the data that has since emerged are not encouraging. The best thing to do is to leave drug review to the experts. That goes for hydroxychloroquine, it goes for bleach and it goes for ultraviolet light as well.”"


"But doctors, health experts and officials from Trump’s own administration say the evidence does not back up the president’s positive assertions. Those assertions, which Trump has claimed are partly based on “a feeling,” could be costing lives, they said.

Yogen Kanthi, assistant professor in the division of cardiovascular medicine at the University of Michigan, said that it has been clear that the combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin — used to treat bacterial infections — could lead to cardiac arrhythmias, which cause the heart to beat irregularly or too fast or slow. Many patients hospitalized for covid-19 had underlying cardiovascular disease that put them at higher risk for arrhythmias, “so it shouldn’t be surprising we saw an increase in death,” he said.

“The question has been answered that if you have the infection and it’s significant enough to be in the hospital, the drug doesn’t seem to do anything for you,” he said. “It may be the horse is out of the barn.”


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ailsignout
By johnforbes
#124934
Related aspects of anti-malaria pills have been used on a prophylactic basis all over Asia and Africa, and covid-19 has very interestingly spared these areas.

How could I know that over 1 million people have experience with the minimal cardiac aspects of HCQ?

Because it has been around 66 years and I looked that aspect up.

In France, as in China, well over 1000 were tested, with over 90 percent efficacy.

In almost every country outside the U.S. -- in India, China, Brazil, and so forth -- HCQ plus Zpack plus zinc is being used and it is helping with this novel coronavirus.

How do I know that? I looked it up, unlike Clown and Elkin who never do any research.



As for me personally, the Gilead drug would help me as an investor, but unlike the little leftists here -- deranged young chaps like Clown and Diver -- I would actually like to see something help sick people.
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