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Trump and Sanders

All the other candidates just have people who could change their mind in a heartbeat, but not Trump and Sander supporters, they're all in, their votes have been decided and they can't wait to complete their ballots.

Both bucked their parties, it'll be very entertaining, pass the popcorn.

Very true.

Both are anti-Establishment candidates.

johnny, you happily groveled to the establishment when you were drafted and you brag about it now, but you suddenly think the establishment is a bad thing?

It's just more of you being your regular hypocritical self, I guess.

It is actually the Left which now -- inexplicably -- thinks the Establishment is wonderful.

Years ago, every good Democrat was suspicious of intel agencies.

Today, with them using fake dossiers to wiretap Trump, Democrats love the sleazy and corrupt people who use fake dossiers to lie to FISA judges and wiretap Republicans.

According to Trump only the mob takes the 5th....

....then Trump proceeds to block the testimony of Bolton, Mulvaney and Pompeo.

Exec privilege has been invoked by every modern president.

If Pelosi believed the House had been somehow wronged (actually its subpoenas were technically invalid anyhow, but that issue no longer germane), then she should have gone to court.

Instead, she embarked for politics on the moronic impeachment effort.

Trump's the self proclaimed...I've got nothing to hide president. Yet he blocked Bolton and others from testifying and Trump is attempting to block Bolton's book from being published....at least until after the election.

LOL

The modern Left would not be recognized by leftists from the 1960s.

Hillary used a Brit spy and Russian sources for her fake dossier, and then corrupt Dems lied to the FISA court (including one Obama appointee who might not have been tough to lie to) and wiretapped the Trump campaign.

In the past, leftists such as Dershowitz hated that sort of Orwellian federal control, and Elkin and Clown would have agreed in the 1960s.

Today, Democrats love crooked spys. and they think it is dandy to use fake dossiers to wiretap people.

John Forbes covers up steaming bullshit with more steaming bullshit.

Now Trump wants to block Bolton's book...at least until after elections in November.

The modern Left would not be recognized by leftists from the 1960s.

Hillary used a Brit spy and Russian sources for her fake dossier, and then corrupt Dems lied to the FISA court (including one Obama appointee who might not have been tough to lie to) and wiretapped the Trump campaign.

In the past, leftists such as Dershowitz hated that sort of Orwellian federal control, and Elkin and Clown would have agreed in the 1960s.

Today, Democrats love crooked spys. and they think it is dandy to use fake dossiers to wiretap people.

John Forbes covers up steaming bullshit with more steaming bullshit.

Now Trump wants to block Bolton's book...at least until after elections in November.

The modern Left would not be recognized by leftists from the 1960s.

Hillary used a Brit spy and Russian sources for her fake dossier, and then corrupt Dems lied to the FISA court (including one Obama appointee who might not have been tough to lie to) and wiretapped the Trump campaign.

In the past, leftists such as Dershowitz hated that sort of Orwellian federal control, and Elkin and Clown would have agreed in the 1960s.

Today, Democrats love crooked spys. and they think it is dandy to use fake dossiers to wiretap people.

John Forbes covers up steaming bullshit with more steaming bullshit.

Now Trump wants to block Bolton's book...at least until after elections in November.

Although young Elkin would not realize it, the modern Left would not be recognized by leftists from the 1960s.

Hillary used a Brit spy and Russian sources for her fake dossier, and then corrupt Dems lied to the FISA court (including one Obama appointee who might not have been tough to lie to) and wiretapped the Trump campaign.

In the past, leftists such as Dershowitz hated that sort of Orwellian federal control, and Elkin and Clown would have agreed in the 1960s.

Today, Democrats love crooked spy operations. and they think it is dandy to use fake dossiers to wiretap people.

johnny, you keep repeating this same nonsense. How do you manage to avoid boring yourself? You certainly bore the rest of us.

You seem to have missed the fundamental flaw in your adolescent thesis; that your alleged "modern Left" is not the Left at all. It's just the Right in different clothing.

In other words, you keep criticizing people like Hillary because you believe she is just like Nixon using his dirty tricks squad or like Trump making an abusive use of power.

I think you had better go back to college (smoke some dope if you need help to unclench your rectum) and learn the difference between "Left" and "Right".

You just might stop making a fool of yourself by constantly criticizing your own reactionary Right beliefs.

In reading over this thread, my staff members spotted this gem of wisdom:

It is true that the modern Left would not be recognized by leftists from the 1960s.

Hillary used a Brit spy and Russian sources for her fake dossier, and then corrupt Dems lied to the FISA court (including one Obama appointee who might not have been tough to lie to) and wiretapped the Trump campaign.

In the past, leftists such as Dershowitz hated that sort of Orwellian federal control, and Elkin and Clown would have agreed in the 1960s.

Today, Democrats love crooked spy operations. and they think it is dandy to use fake dossiers to wiretap people.

^^^^^^^ Every time johnforbes is forced to face the truth, he goes into "babbling ignoramus mode" droning ignorant repetitions because his brain simply shuts down.

Maybe when he snaps out of it he will finally be able to tell his Right from his Left.

Read a news item that Biden is being pressured by the DNC "powers that be" to pick a woman to run as his VP...
And the woman they want him to pick is none other than the Indian Princess...!

So Silly...how's your 401K doing? Still buying on the dead cat bounces down to the bottom?

It looks like you will need that $1000 dollar republican socialist check ....

LMFAO

Liz Warren (D, Cherokee) make heap big wampum pretending to be Blonde Indian.

Ugh.

johnforbes is so dimwitted he still doesn't understand that by repeating ad nauseum a single irrelevant criticism of Warren only proves how honest she actually is compared to Trump.

johnny has nothing else to criticize her for.

Liz, the blonde Indian, came in third even in her own camping land of Taxachusetts.

^^^^^^ See? johnny's got nothing else to criticize her for. That's how squeaky clean she is relative to Trump.

She (and/or hubby) is a very diligent investor.

Last time I read a disclosure from her, she had 8 million and now it is 12. Sure, the market was kind in that timeframe with Trump at the helm, but Liz is a greedy squaw...

"but Liz is a greedy squaw..."-johnforbes

And so is Trump, but mysteriously you don't criticize HIM for it.

Why are you always criticizing Democrats when they behave like Trump?

It's like you're nothing more than a partisan hypocrite or something.

By itself, and this is a point made by Ayn Rand et alia, greed isn't bad.

It leads to all sorts of benign results.

For example, a hunger or greed to be a famous doctor might lead to a drug which could help society.

Jobs and Gates were greedy bastards, but left us Apple products and the ongoing mess of WIndows 10.

"By itself, and this is a point made by Ayn Rand et alia, greed isn't bad."-johnforbes

....which only makes it even more absurd and unforgivably hypocritical that you criticize Warren for having traits that Trump has but you never criticize Trump for having the same traits.

Don't you SEE that, johnny? Honestly? You really don't realize what a dishonest partisan scumbag you are?

Nope, and here's why.

Trump proudly proclaimed himself a billionaire, but Liz pretended to be Indian and attacks corporations while she herself busily invests in their stock.

So your position is--- being a hypocrite is bad?

Is there nothing you won't be a hypocrite about, johnny?

The markets are now lower than when Trump got into office.

Apparently he has fulfilled the pledge that he would run the government like it was one of his businesses.

Come on Elkin, this flu was not under his control any more that Obama controlled the flu in his tenure.

Obama allowed A MILLION TO BECOME INFECTED AND 1000 TO DIE from his flu outbreak.

johnforbes posts duplicate lies, I'll post duplicate reality check smack downs:


"Though the H1N1 virus had begun spreading in Mexico, the first case in the United States was detected on April 15, 2009, in a 10-year-old patient in California. Two days later, CDC laboratory testing confirmed a second infection in an 8-year-old also living in California. Within one week, the CDC had activated its Emergency Operations Center to respond to what it had identified as an emerging public health threat.

Before the end of April, the government had declared a public health emergency and started releasing medical supplies and drugs from the CDC’s Strategic National Stockpile. “The real-time PCR test developed by CDC was cleared for use by diagnostic laboratories by FDA under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) on April 28, 2009, less than two weeks after identification of the new pandemic virus,” the CDC notes on its website.

Sebelius remembers that date well. It was the day she was sworn in as HHS secretary.

The test developed by the CDC was created quickly. It was accurate. And it was shared with governments around the world, she said. “The capacity of CDC at that point to make and develop and quickly turn out a test was vastly different than what we saw occurring” with the coronavirus, Sebelius said.

In an interview, Dr. Tom Frieden, who was CDC director under Obama, said testing for H1N1 and the United States’ willingness to share its test with other countries was a success. “I traveled all over the world and for years afterward even very hostile governments were saying thank you for sending it to us.”

Coronavirus testing, on the other hand, remains mired in delays. Though the first person in the United States was confirmed to have the virus on Jan. 20, a series of problems have kept testing out of reach for many patients with telltale symptoms of the virus. The CDC designed a flawed test for COVID-19, then it took weeks to figure out a fix so state and local labs could use it, ProPublica found. Trump said on March 6 that “anybody who wants a test gets a test,” but many doctors, patients and public health leaders say that is not the case.

On Wednesday, Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine, a Republican, said: “Testing is limited. It will, in all likelihood, remain limited.”--ProPublica


Trump is STILL lying to you, johnny, but for some reason you are not only swallowing his lies, but you are naively and unquestioningly propagating his lies. Even Republicans are calling him a liar, as we see with Gov. DeWine.

Clown melts down, once again.

RealTool is parading his ignorance of the English language again.




Say it with me---"ESL classes, dimwit. ESLclasses"

The TV series "MASH" showed how M.D.s could be rebels within the military, and that is why I've always said M.D.s should not be officers but remain private citizens providing services.

The CDC has a bunch of docs, and they do what they want, and everybody knows that bureaucratic red tape slowed down the coronavirus response.

That's a pretty funny way to admit you were just plain wrong about the "1000 dead before Obama declared an emergency" thing, johnny.

Obama wasn't a doctor, and so he fumbled his flue crisis very badly, and he didn't act until 1000 were dead and a million infected.

But the only "doctor" president was Wilson and he was a PhD not an MD.

That's a great Obama story, johnny.

Too bad it has nothing to do with either the truth or reality. You made it up.

Or your handlers made it up and you just obediently regurgitate it.

Thank you for saying, quite accurately, that it is a great Obama story.

He allowed 1000 Americans to die, and 1 million to become infected, before he managed to put down his leather-bound copy of Das Kapital and pay attention.

Thank you for admitting quite accurately that your story is made up and has nothing to do with either the truth or reality.

In the real world where intelligent people (non Trump supporters) live, Obama declared a national emergency within the same month of the first confirmed U.S. case of H1N1.

Trump took three months to do the same thing with COVID-19.

Nope, Sibelius is not a trustworthy source.

She is the same dolt who could not even put up an Obamacare web site.

Heck, Clown's own web site, which is www.modern_Marxism.org, works very well.

Your source is not trustworthy either, johnny.

It is a purely partisan Trump-supporting site. Nothing but lies for the dimwitted.