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#122188
Obama- Kobe was a legend and just getting started in what would have been just as meaningful a second act. To lose Gianna is even more heartbreaking to us as parents. Michelle and I send love and prayers to Vanessa and the entire Bryant family on an unthinkable day.
Was he talking about more rapes when he said a meaningful second act?

The Washington Post even fired political reporter Felicia Sonmez when she dared pointed out the rape incident yesterday. If Kobe had been a white athlete the media would have been putting out that justice was finally done yesterday.
#122189
Geezus, you're STILL distracting with your Obama Derangement Syndrome while Bolton's book and the Parnus video shows Trump is lying to you again and you don't care.

Who cares what Obama thinks about Bryant? But it is revealing that your handlers told you to bring up the quotation in its own thread this time since bringing it up in another thread didn't cause the outrage you expected to distract from Trump's impeachment. But you don't get to just make up more stupid shit that Felicia Sonmez was fired.

Wow, the desperate things you will do to try to save your criminal President from facing justice....

Be sure to lick your handlers' balls on your way out, Tool.
#122190
Bolton's book and the Parnus video shows Trump is lying to you again and you don't care.
They aren't telling us anything Trump hasn't already told us. He said he held up the aid, he said he fired the ambassador, the Ukraine President has said there was conditions are demands for the investigation of Hunter. So the book and video are just confirming what Trump has already told us. :D

Now back to the subject of the thread, where are the #METOO people and why are so many people pretending Kobe who raped a teenager is at Pope status? Over 7,000 other Americans died yesterday, including Vets, but their deaths don't get a peep.
#122191
This isn't even the 1000th time Obama has used a different standard based on race.

Had Kobe been white, the "Me Too Movement" would have destroyed him even in retirement from the NBA.

I'm sorry the people are dead, and I've been in helicopter emergency situations and know they are dangerous, but this worship of an accused rapist is a bit over the top.
#122193
Wait a minute. I thought you were a conservative who always waits for the facts.

But you're calling Bryant a "rapist" without any facts.

Fact: Bryant plead not guilty.
Fact: Bryant's accuser dropped the sexual assault charges on advice of her lawyer.
Fact: Obama doesn't believe Bryant is a rapist so he is free to express any opinion of Bryant he likes.
Fact: RealTool is a diverting lying sack of shit because he's so afraid his god will go straight to hell.
#122194
No, that is not how "Me Too" works in Left Wing land.

He was accused, and ergo to the Left that means he is guilty as sin because all women must be believed.

Right now, Trump is in an impeachment trial for having done nothing wrong except to actually waste 1 billion in foreign aid to Ukraine.

To the Left, mere accusations will suffice.
#122196
No, johnny, Trump is on trial for abusing his power for personal gain to the detriment of U.S. security, which he clearly did. Bolton's book is just one more piece of proof that that is exactly what he did.

Even YOU know that's what he did. Even you aren't that stupid that you believe he did not abuse his power, but you're still desperately trying to excuse him on technicalities. And those stick in your craw as you try to pretend they are exculpatory.

As to Bryant, be a "RealTool conservative" and stick to the facts. Beyond that, who cares about Obama's opinion, or MeToo's lack of opinion for that matter.

Why are you so willing to distract from the actual news of the day by trotting out irrelevant opinions?
#122206
Biden is the one he DOESN'T want to run against.
The relevant question is ...who do the Demos/ liberals want ?

--Joe Biden , who has been called the most corrupt VP in the history of the nation..
--Elizabeth Warren, whose daughter is married to an Indian (INDIA) known to do business with Iran...
or
--Bernie Sanders...his wife was charged with fraud...
#122208
sillydummy, the only person who ever said Biden is "the most corrupt VP in the history of the nation" is Trump. What else would a coward say about an opponent he can't beat?

He says that because pea brains like you believe everything he makes up and you believe it without any evidence. If Biden was actually that corrupt, not only would he be rich (which he isn't) but the Trump Justice Department and two Attornies General should have been investigating him out in the open instead of trying to make it look like Ukraine was doing it with a fake investigation. Even YOU must admit that's true. If you can't admit that, then you're saying the Trump Justice Department won't investigate the most corrupt lawbreakers in America.

Notice you have NOTHING on Warren. You don't even have anything on her daughter. All you have is some idiotic 'guilt by association' with someone who hired an Iranian film director. There is no law saying he can't do that, dummy. And even if there were, what has that got to do with Warren? Nothing.

You also have nothing on Sanders. His wife wasn't charged with anything. And if you watched something other than FOXnews you would know that.

Meanwhile, the guy you pretend is supposed to be better than those three (whom you can't find any fault with) is a serial cheater, proud sexual assault perpetrator, money launderer for Russian oligarchs, serial bankruptcy claimant, payer of hush money to women for sexual favors during adultery, the most prolific documented liar in Presidential history, smearer of Gold Star families, cheater of charities for our Military Veterans, supporter of White Supremacists in his voter base, someone who spends the bulk of his presidency playing golf, holding political rallies, and tweeting hate.

The relevant question is...WHY do the Repubs/conservatives want him? Have they no integrity, honor, or self-respect?
#122209
Meanwhile, the guy you pretend is supposed to be better than those three (whom you can't find any fault with) is a serial cheater, proud sexual assault perpetrator, money launderer for Russian oligarchs, serial bankruptcy claimant, payer of hush money to women for sexual favors during adultery, the most prolific documented liar in Presidential history, smearer of Gold Star families, cheater of charities for our Military Veterans, supporter of White Supremacists in his voter base, someone who spends the bulk of his presidency playing golf, holding political rallies, and tweeting hate.
All lies, Trump is a good hard working man who doesn't even drink or smoke, never as, he's led a clean God fearing life, that's why libtards don't like him.
#122211
RealStool actually just said cheating on multiple wives and grabbing women's genitals is "good clean God fearing " behavior. :/

He's serious. He sees nothing wrong with it. He claims his Christian God supports such behavior.


"cheater of charities for our Military Veterans"

The courts said that, Tool, not me. Trump was sued by Veterans and they won a $2 million judgment against Trump for cheating his own charity-- the Donald J. Trump Foundation. Instead, they used the charity money for personal use. The President of the Foundation ADMITTED that's what they did.

"serial bankruptcy claimant"

Trump companies have declared bankruptcy six times. And before you bitch an moan about it, yes, they aren't technically personal bankruptcies, but Trump IS his companies. Also, I never said they were personal bankruptcies, did I? Only that he claimed bankruptcies multiple times.

I could go on, but two true things in the list proves they aren't "All lies". ReaTool is just making up more stupid shit because he has nothing, so I won't waste any more of my time proving more of them.
#122214
It is a matter of public record that Trump has cheated on at least two wives and this ended those marriages as well as his admission on tape that he grabbed other women's pussies while he was married.

Knowing this, RealTool still said "All lies, Trump is a good hard working man who doesn't even drink or smoke, never as, he's led a clean God fearing life, that's why libtards don't like him."

In order for Trump to have led a "clean God fearing life" RealTool is saying cheating on multiple wives and grabbing women's pussies is supported by his Christian God.

You can't have it both ways, Tool. Either you're lying or you're saying your God supports such behavior.
If and only if you're admitting that you're lying about Trump's life, then I retract my claim about your pathetic God.
#122216
The first proof is that both Ivana Trump and Marla Maples both admit to it, in books and interviews.


"Marla Maples shockingly confronted Ivana Trump about Donald Trump while they were married.

According to reports, Ivana and Trump’s relationship hit the rock bottom because he started an affair with Maples. Also, the model confronted Trump’s first wife.

“This young blond woman came up to me out of the blue and said, ‘I’m Marla and I love your husband. Do you?’” Ivana recalled (via Associated Press).

“I said ‘Get lost. I love my husband.’ It was unladylike but I was in shock,” she continued.

Trump and Maples’ affair led to his divorce from Ivana. It also affected their three children Donald Jr., Ivanka and Eric."-International Business Times


Also, in 1989, when Trump was still married to Ivana but taking a break from Marla, he had an affair with 19-year-old Gabriela Sabatini.
https://www.advocate.com/politicians/20 ... ry-media-4
It's not just his wives Trump cheats on. He even cheats on his mistresses. Undoubtedly your God loves when that happens as well.


The second proof is that Karen McDougal admitted it as well. She had a ten month affair with Trump just a year after he married Melania and she was pregnant. Trump paid her $150,000, which Michael Cohen confirms.
She admitted in an interview that she knew Trump was married.


So much for your "good clean God fearing life" of Trump. I can't understand how you can say your God approves of such behavior.
#122218
Trump was once a wealthy NY man about town, and he has never denied that.

That audiotape which one of the networks held in 2016 in order to damage Trump confirmed that he kidded around in the manner of a playboy.

Voters considered that and elected Trump with a considerable electoral college victory.

A pillar of rectitude like Jimmy "Lust in My Heart" Carter was a terrible excuse for a president.

Clown looks clownish pretending to be a bluehaired librarian.
#122221
Always the long drawn out euphemisms when it comes to Trump, right, johnny?

You can't just say it's well known that Trump is a serial cheater. You have to minimize the truth by couching it dishonestly as "Trump was once a wealthy NY man about town, and he has never denied that."

But RealTool IS denying that, johnny, and you say nothing to him about his lying. And it IS lying. He's actually trying to pass Trump off Trump's life as that of a "good clean God fearing" man.

You condone tools like RealTool as long as he supports your candidate. That's what makes you a dishonest partisan hack.
#122231
^^^^ Look at RealTool desperately ignore the quotations from the women involved in Trump's cheating.

And look at him pretend Trump didn't admit on tape to grabbing women's pussies.

That's the only defense Trump supporters ever have; they deny the facts they hear from everyone involved with Trump.

That's why not a single Trump supporter wants to hear from Bolton, the first hand witness to Trump's crimes. They will have one more thing they will have to pretend they didn't hear.

Next they will be saying Bolton is a Democrat. No kidding. Anyone who criticizes Trump is a "Democrat" to all Trump supporters, no matter how blatantly stupid that belief is.
The amazing thing is there don't seem to be ANY real Republicans in existence. To Trump supporters, everyone who voted Republican their entire lives is really just a deep state Democrat plant to them.
#122234
Clown, Democrats -- as you well know -- were full of thoughts about "proportional justice" when Bill Clinton had oral sex in the Oval Office with an intern his daughter's age, then lied about it under oath to a federal judge and grand jury.

That did not merit removal from office, Democrats said, and I actually had to concur with that because I took removal and undoing of the will of the voters seriously.

Modern Democrats are not serious at all.
#122235
johnny, you keep bringing up "undoing of the will of the voters" but completely ignore the fact that the will of the voters was to elect Hillary by over 3 million votes.

What you mean is you take undoing "the will of the Electoral College" seriously. That's something entirely different, but it sure isn't "the will of the voters" which you don't take seriously at all.
#122238
It is undeniably true that NY and California vote Democrat.

However, our system involves the Electoral College, and it does so for a reason.

Undoing the will of the voters is precisely what Democrats aspire to do.

Had the only thing which mattered been the total vote count, then Trump would have campaigned differently and so would Hillary, but we live in the real world.
#122242
RealJustme wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:17 pm
And look at him pretend Trump didn't admit on tape to grabbing women's pussies.
He never said such a thing, you sound like Schiff reading Trump's call transcript, making up shit he didn't say.
Justme was curled in the fetal position with his fingers stuck in his ears shouting MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA when they played the recording of the Trump "grab em by the pussy" tape on the TV.

:laugh:
#122251
"It is undeniably true that NY and California vote Democrat."-johnflubs

And a lot of other states vote Republican. What's your point?


"Undoing the will of the voters is precisely what Democrats aspire to do."-johnfibs

You're repeating your lie, johnny. Knock it off.
The Democrats aspire to get rid of a corrupt President per the Constitution and nothing else. You're just making up stupid shit like RealTool.


"Had the only thing which mattered been the total vote count, then Trump would have campaigned differently and so would Hillary, but we live in the real world."-johnflubs

Yes, we do, so stop repeating your lie about a Trump conviction "undoing of the will of the voters" when a Republican would still be President.

Removing Trump would only be an "undoing of the will of the Electoral College." By more than 3 million votes, "the will of the voters" was to elect Hillary.
#122252
The Founders knew that certain areas might always vote a certain way, and they established the Electoral College which has served the country well.

Dems thought so too until Hillary lost.

Besides, if Trump had been playing a vote-only game, he may have campaigned more in California and NY and gotten more.

In Democrat NJ, he just filled a 10,000 seat venue with 175,000 people wanting to come who couldn't fit in.
#122259
Thank you for conceding my point that an impeachment conviction of Trump will not undo "the will of the voters."

But why do you always use so many unneeded words to do it when you could have simply said "You're right."

Do you honestly think that 'winning' some other point nobody was arguing about means you won the point we were actually arguing about? You didn't.
#122264
Like all armchair athletes, RealTool talks himself into believing he personally won or lost when his local sports franchise wins or loses, but he doesn't actually understand what a "slam dunk" is.

He's just repeating something he heard on TV that he thinks sounds cool, not realizing his misuse of the term makes him sound like a moron to actual athletes.
#122270
Tool, you have to understand eighth grade English to understand what Trump said. Why would I waste any more time talking to you about what every intelligent person in the world (including Melania) already knows?

Being a philosopher, I will only spend so much time sitting in the wilderness and talking to rocks before I move on to other pursuits.
#122272
Well, I played sports in high school and college, but I had never heard "grab" used that way before.

However, I'm not a physician, so there may be some handle I'm unaware of.

What is clear is that Bill Clinton got oral sex in the workplace from a young intern under his career control and the same age as his daughter, and that the Left was only too glad to argue that he didn't do anything wrong because it was just lies about sex.

Personally, I didn't think Clinton should have been removed from office, and Repubs were punished at the ballot box for pursuing Clinton.
#122358
There you go Justme...now Johnnie heard Trump say "grab 'em by the pussy"
I heard him that too, but still "waiting on proof Trump said he had grabbed women by the pussies." If I said some people like to eat bats, in your world, that would mean I admitted I have ate bats.

You and clown have schiffitis, you just can't help yourself from taking something a person said and making it into something you wanted them to say.
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