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Instead of not doing a quid pro quo, Trump should NOT have provided the billion in military aid to Ukraine.

It was 1947 when Kennan wrote his famous article on containment of communism, and the bowtie Kent this week said foreign policy toward Russia had not changed in 75 years.

The containment notion was cited in places from Korea to Vietnam, all over the world.

Ukraine is the third most corrupt country on the planet, and that billion in aid has already probably found its way into the building of dacha for some corrupt politician in Ukraine.

Why were Kent and Vindman so passionate about getting that billion for Ukraine's border when America's southern border is not secure?

After that money was released to Ukraine you can bet, money was transferred to an account in Ukraine owned by Vindman. He's flaunting his wealth by living in a $1.5 million dollar home on a $110K salary. I'd be willing to bet over half of the money US tax payers gave them went to line pockets of people like Vindman.

Tool, he didn't buy a $1.5 million house, did he, you dishonest turd. It's worth $1.5 NOW, dimwit. (If you didn't simply make up more stupid shit about it, which is likely you did.) And you conveniently overlook his wife's income contributing to their buying power.

Your house is worth three times what you paid for it too. Does that make you a criminal? Well.....okay, in your case it does, but that doesn't mean everyone else did it your way.

As always, all you have is dishonest partisan bullshit to smear a good soldier. It's what Republicans like you and johnforbes and Trump do. Made up stupid shit...

And you conveniently overlook his wife's income contributing to their buying power.

He said his wife is a stay at home mother, are you saying his kids pay her?

Vindman is first and foremost...a Russian ..
His allegiance is to Russia...
His concern was not that the President may get into trouble...
but that hastily taking money from the US, Ukraine would forever
be "owned" by the US..!
Remember Ukraine asked for his advice on how to deal with the US..
For sure he gave them privileged information..!

What will Vindman's future be?

He has already obviously been passed over for promotion, and no doubt because of his bias toward Ukraine.

Surely we will find him, in a few years, working as a lobbyist in D.C. for Ukraine?

Who cares what Vindman's future will be, johnny? Why don't you address the issue about what Trump did, as revealed by so many of his own hires and appointees? They are "the best people" after all.

You can't refute anything any of them said. You can only try desperate personal smear jobs because the facts are so damning.

Ambassadors and people like that are not the "best," but typically the ones who donated to some politician or were good sycophants in the bureaucracy.

As to Trump, he did nothing whatever wrong.

Let's see the phone transcripts of Obama arranging the Iran deal, where pallets of cash ended up on the tarmac in the dark.

Let's see the transcripts of Joe Biden's phone calls re Ukraine.

There, you would see real corruption, but Democrats don't want to see that.

Even Trump doesn't claim Obama had Iran investigate his political opponents at home in exchange for returning Iran's own money to them.

And yet johnforbes is insinuating Obama did it for personal political gain when there is no evidence of that whatsoever. Trump could (and probably did) look at the Obama/Biden transcripts and found the calls were all "perfect."
But johnforbes doesn't even care if his dishonesty is greater and more stupid than Trump's. He simply makes up stupid shit, like all Trump supporters.

Congratulations, johnny. You've somehow managed to slither under the 'honesty bar' that Trump has set down in the mud.

I suppose that Johnnie will now finally admit how lifelong Republicans in the FBI plotted with Ukraine and Hillary so she would lose her own presidential election so that Trump would win so that then the deep state could take him down while framing Russia and Ukraine for it and also something like Crowdstrike or whatever??????????

Crowdstrike, a Left-leaning outfit, did say the DNC server was hacked and Mueller just swallowed that without investigating.

In other words, a Special Counsel with a mandate to investigate the 2016 election did not do that, but instead took his staff of 100 percent Democrats and spent two years and 35 million dollars attempting to frame Trump but failing.