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I'm just fast forwarding what "WILL" happen... because I understand there are some people out there that have no clue about what's happening. The moment the Mueller witch hunt failed to turn up anything on Trump, Democrats broke the impeach in emergencies glass to try and stop him.

They will try and impeach him no matter what but will be stopped by the Senate, Democrats know that, but they also know if they don't try and impeach Trump, their weak minded voters will not support them in 2020...so is it written.

I'm just rewinding what "HAS" happened... because I understand there are some people out there that have no clue about pretty much anything. The moment the Mueller succeeded in turning up damning evidence on Trump of obstruction of justice, Republicans have been spinning their lack of knowledge into some imaginary idea idea of "no obstruction" to try and support him.

Democrats will now try to impeach him on all the corroborating evidence from multiple direct witnesses from within Trump's own administration proving an illegal abuse of power for personal political gain what but will be stopped by the Senate who don't care what crimes Trump has committed, because he is a Republican just like the many other Republican hypocrites in Congress who hold contempt for the rule of law and believe the President is above the law---but only if he is a Republican, of course. Democrats know that, but they also know if they don't try and impeach Trump for his documented crimes, their weak minded voters will not support them in 2020...so is it written.

Democrats will now try to impeach him

You got that part right clown.

The House investigation is a farce, they are asking people what they "think" about Trump's phone call, when they have the actual transcript of what was said. The moment Mueller's investigation flopped and nothing was found on Trump, the House was going to impeach him to try and take votes away from in 2020. It doesn't matter there are no grounds for impeachment and they know the Senate will toss it right back out, they did it for the votes...so it is written.

The tactics are amusing.

Democrats are pretending that Bill Taylor and Vindman are credible because of their military backgrounds, but of course Democrats don't have the slightest respect for the background of any person with a non-Left opinion.

The feelings and passions of the fired ambassador, or Taylor, or Vindman, simply don't mean a damn thing.

Read the transcript -- no quid, no quo, just another attempt by the Deep State (this "whistleblower" worked for Brennan) to undo the 2016 electin.

Read the transcript -- no quid, no quo, just another attempt by the Deep State (this "whistleblower" worked for Brennan) to undo the 2016 election.

If Trump hadn't released the transcript of the call, it would make more sense for the interviews to find out what they talked about in the call...but since the transcript was released, there is no justification for interviews for people's thoughts on what was said.

The plan was for this whistleblower to make allegations that Trump threatened to withhold money in return for dirt on Biden, which he did. Other swamp members standing by to build upon the lies of what Trump said. Their plan was foiled, when Trump released the transcript of the call, Schiff never expected that would happen...but as in Russia gate, the Democrats proclaimed they had Trump and now can't turn back. The show must go on.

Democrats are pretending that Bill Taylor and Vindman are credible because of their military backgrounds, but of course Democrats don't have the slightest respect for the background of any person with a non-Left opinion.

Yep..Let us not forget, they favored Obama , a man of suspicious origins, over John McCain, war hero..!

Watch them cry again after the Democrats spend months putting on a circus and then send their work product to the Senate...and the Senate yawns and throws it into the trash can.

"If Trump hadn't released the transcript of the call, it would make more sense for the interviews to find out what they talked about in the call...but since the transcript was released, there is no justification for interviews for people's thoughts on what was said."-RealTool

And since the transcript was released, there is no longer a reason to interview the whistleblower about what he blew the whistle on, is there. He was proven correct by Trump. He's irrelevant now.

As to "asking for people's thoughts on what was said" that's the whole point, dimwit. If everyone involved in the call heard Trump ask for a quid pro quo, then he asked for a quid pro quo. They actually heard it. You didn't. And the transcript doesn't contain those things. The witnesses know about his tone of voice and inflections on the phone. What people heard is precisely the point of the investigation.

And what Ambassadors and other Trump Administration negotiators understood from Trump and communicated to Ukraine is also to the point.

"... If everyone involved in the call heard Trump ask for a quid pro quo, then he asked for a quid pro quo. .."

When the president fired Comey…
the Demos wanted us to believe he did not have the right or a good reason to fire him, and therefore committed a crime..
When in fact he not only had the right, but not even required to state a reason...

And so here we go again..the Demos using the same tactic...
The Demos want us to believe that a "quid pro quo" in any form, regardless of the circumstances, is a crime..
When in fact The US, just like any other nation, has always asked for and indeed expected, something in return for its Money..!

And since the transcript was released, there is no longer a reason to interview the whistleblower about what he blew the whistle on, is there. He was proven correct by Trump. He's irrelevant now.

No the whistleblower lied in his allegation to the IG about what he knew and what was said. On top of that the whistleblower has a help me fight Trump, go fund me account where he already raised over $300K from Trump haters. As a active CIA employee he is prohibited from such donations. Who put him up to make up lies to kick off the investigation? He has to testify since he is the one that generated the investigation that someone told him Trump directly threatened to hold back the money if they didn't get dirt on Biden. He has to tell who told him that.

"No the whistleblower lied in his allegation to the IG about what he knew and what was said."-RealTool

More made up stupid shit from The Tool. Trump proved that the whistleblower told the truth by releasing the phone call transcript that corroborated just what the whistleblower had claimed happened, that Trump directly threatened to hold back the money if they didn't get dirt on Biden.


Have someone literate read the transcript to you, Tool. You'll be shocked at Trump's flagrant criminality, just as the whistleblower was.

The whistleblower only knows what he was told...he has no first hand knowledge...!
His complaint is full of "I don't knows "...
It is for that reason he should testify....Someone is pulling his strings...
and I suspect that someone also wrote the complaint.....

Trump proved that the whistleblower told the truth by releasing the phone call transcript that corroborated just what the whistleblower had claimed happened, that Trump directly threatened to hold back the money if they didn't get dirt on Biden

Clown where is that in the transcript? Or are you saying you have evidence that Trump said that?

Tool, simply parading your illiteracy and ignorance of the transcript is not an argument for Trump.

Quite the contrary.

Even Taylor and Vindman (the Left is now pretending they are credible because they are vets) admit that the redacted transcript fully captures the phone call.

But they have their feelings and opinions.

So do I.

Their feelings and opinions don't matter here, nor do mine.

What matters is Ukraine did NOT learn about the aid until a month after Trump's call, and the Ukraine president felt no pressure he said, and Ukraine got all the aid anyhow, and Hunter Biden really was corrupt, there was no quid, and no quo.

Taylor and Vindman didn't hold up well under questioning, what they did make clear is that all they know is what they've heard others say and that they did not appreciate Trump trying to dictate policy to them because they had been in public service all their life and former Presidents had never rocked their boats.

"I want nothing from Ukraine."
Libs, which part of that statement do you need help with?

Hillary & Obama handed us Trump 2016.
Pelosi & Schiff handed us Trump 2020.

""I want nothing from Ukraine."
Libs, which part of that statement do you need help with?"-RealTool

Trump only said that AFTER he got outed and was just trying desperately to cover his ass when he got caught. Before that, he made it clear to everyone on his shadow government team that there was a quid pro quo, as Sondland said under oath in so many words and Giuliani has said in interviews.

What part of that do YOU need help with?

Trump is a liar and will throw ANYONE under the bus. You know it. johnforbes knows it. Every Trump supporter knows it. But you still pretend his amateurish protestations of innocence mean something. They don't.

Trump only said that AFTER he got outed and was just trying desperately to cover his ass when he got caught. Before that, he made it clear to everyone on his shadow government team that there was a quid pro quo, as Sondland said under oath in so many words and Giuliani has said in interviews.

All of sudden Democrats are saying money should be given to other governments without any conditions like Obama did with Iran, look where that got us!

Yes, it got us a nuclear non-proliferation agreement that was working, dimwit. It was a huge success until Trump fucked it up.

Clown, your hatred of Trump has rendered you irrational.

Trump's phone call contained no quid pro quo, but in the regard it was quite the exception because almost every diplomatic encounter does involve quid pro quo.

Obama clearly did a quid pro quo with Iran, and he did it to help Democrats win elections.

The same arguments could be made for Clinton, Carter, LBJ, etc.

johnny, please show us where anything I posted is not rational. Is it your position that Obama DIDN'T make a nuclear deal with Iran and that Trump DIDN'T withdraw from that deal? Do you consider it rational to believe that the deal was not working when every other country involved in the agreement agreed that it WAS working?

If so, then you are the one who has been rendered irrational. If not, then my position is completely rational.

The way John Forbes obsesses over the identity of this whistle blower ....you'd think (he/she) colluded with the Russians to steal an election, appointed Barr so he wouldn't prosecute Trump, and blackmailed the Ukrainian president to dig up dirt on his political rival.

Democrats are trying to wiggle out of the mess they created, they know if they vote to impeach Trump, they will lose several House Democrat positions in moderate States, plus they know the Senate won't just toss it out like they predicted, the Senate has promised a thorough real investigation under their rules calling Schiff, his staff the whistleblower, Biden and others to testify under oath and answer questions THEY want to ask. Pelosi's worse nightmare is about to happen.

I called it almost a month ago! The liberals on this board were convinced Schiff would turn up a smoking gun that would convince even the Republicans to oust the President. All Schiff and Pelosi have done is waste America's time and money and shut down the House from handling what matters to the people. Schiff handed his final report over and all it's done is make the Republicans giggle and strengthened Trump's support.

I hope they don't take the coward's way out and just censor instead of push for an impeachment trial.

I wonder when Nunes will lawyer up?

Nunes isn't running for President so who cares?

"I called it almost a month ago!"-RealTool

"Michael Horowitz's report and testimony kills chances of impeachment
It's over, the Democrats' no longer have anything to impeach on."-RealStool

Yes, you called it all right, and you were dead wrong, as always, dimwit. You're the perfect negative indicator.

Oddly, Clowntoker called me this morning.

It was a robo call, and no doubt from Russia.

Did Putin tell Trump to withhold aid to Ukraine?

Trump: “Putin told me.”

Yes, you called it all right

I told you they didn't have enough. The impeachment attempts has been stopped by Pelosi.

RealJustme wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:44 pm

Yes, you called it all right

I told you they didn't have enough. The impeachment attempts has been stopped by Pelosi.

Trump was impeached....get over it.

Elkin, and his rotary dial telephone, fixed the 2016 election.

Obama got elected twice and was never impeached....so what's your point?

My point is that, on a sultry August day, there's nothing like a juicy peach.

However, Elkin's postings are the pits.

Obama got elected twice and was never impeached....so what's your point?

Trump is still your President.

Obama was your president....twice.

This is the point if a thread where we ask: "What have we learned here?"

Number one, we've learned that Elizabeth Hurley looks good in a bikini at age 54.

Two, we've learned that Elkin does not look good in a bikini when he is cross-dressing.