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...new story exposing the identity of the "whistleblower" as Eric Ciaramella.

Ciaramella is a holdover from the Obama era and has close to ties to top intelligence officials as well as Democrats.

More shockingly, however, is that he was working with Alexandra Chalupa in some capacity.

This is the woman accused of colluding with Ukraine to dig up dirt on Trump as outlined in the Politico story.

A new report from Real Clear Investigations shines line on who may be the Ukraine whistleblower, that began this whole scandal weeks ago.

CIA analyst Eric Ciaramella is being interviewed by politicians privately, and Democrats are stopping Republicans from asking questions about him.

The registered Democrat formerly work for John Brennan AND Joe Biden, and was Biden's right-hand-man while the former Vice President was manipulating the firing of Viktor Shokin, after Shokin began an investigation into Hunter Biden and Burisma.

And this guy worked very closely with DNC "operative" Alexandra Chalupa, who we now know was working with Ukraine officials to dig up dirt on Donald Trump.

Just released that Ciaramella also once reported directly to Susan Rice and still has frequent contact with her.

Why are you imbeciles still talking about the whistleblower?

Trump released the transcript of the phone call himself, thus proving that the whistleblower was correct in his claim that a troubling phone call had been made.

The whistleblower and his possible motives are now irrelevant since what he reported has been proven to have happened by a dozen people.

Trump did it. Now get on board or get left further behind than you already are.

"... the whistleblower was correct in his claim that a troubling phone call had been made.…"

Only to Joe and his cokehead son...

The Demos are still looking for an impeachable offense,
and Schiff doesn't want the Republicans getting in the way asking questions..

"The Demos are still looking for an impeachable offense,..."-sillydummy


"... the whistleblower was correct in his claim that a troubling phone call had been made.…"-me

"Only to Joe and his cokehead son..."-sillydummy

^^^^^^ See? Even sillydummy admits the call was about investigating the Bidens, just as Trump admitted to reporters on video. And that's a crime and an impeachable offense. The very act of soliciting help from a foreign government to advance your political campaign is a crime, even without the quid pro quo you and Trump admit to. Even if Trump hadn't been holding the military aid hostage, which he was.

That's why you morons so desperately need lawyers. You keep admitting to crimes but don't even realize you are doing it.

This fellow Eric's identity had been gossip in DC for more than two weeks.

He worked with Brennan, and all of this stuff -- the fake dossier based on Russia sources and paid for by Hillary and the DNC, the lies to the FISA court to wiretap Trump's campaign, the framing of Flynn as confirmed by new texts between Page and Strzok, the actions of McCabe and Comey -- just reeks of partisan spying.

Sure, the transcript is what matters, and it reveals no quid pro quo because Ukraine restarted an investigation of Biden's corruption before the new Ukraine president was even elected, and because Ukraine didn't even know of the billion in aid until a month AFTER Trump's call.

That aside, any president has a duty to root out corruption, and Obama wanted to end corruption in Ukraine.

As to Biden, his son earned millions FROM corruption in Ukraine.

"This fellow Eric's identity had been gossip in DC for more than two weeks.
He worked with Brennan, and all of this stuff -- the fake dossier based on Russia sources and paid for by Hillary and the DNC, the lies to the FISA court to wiretap Trump's campaign, the framing of Flynn as confirmed by new texts between Page and Strzok, the actions of McCabe and Comey -- just reeks of partisan spying."-jphnflubs

All irrelevant. The impeachment investigation has nothing to do with any of that stuff, even if it were true, which it isn't.
It's all just a distraction from johnny because he can't argue or deny the fact of the solicitation of a political campaign "favor" from a foreign government.

"Sure, the transcript is what matters, and it reveals no quid pro quo because Ukraine restarted an investigation of Biden's corruption before the new Ukraine president was even elected,..."-johnfibs

If that were true, then Trump wouldn't have been asking for "a favor" to do what Ukraine was already supposedly doing, now would he, johnny?
But the fact is that Hunter was NEVER being investigated because the investigation was into activities of Burisma BEFORE Hunter was even on the board. Try to stick to the truth, johnny. Such blatant lies make you look really desperate.

"...and because Ukraine didn't even know of the billion in aid until a month AFTER Trump's call."-johnfibs

Again, then why was Trump asking for the "favor" in exchange for "support" Zelensky was expressing gratitude for? If Ukraine didn't know the aid had been authorized by Congress, then it only makes it more clearly an extortion since you claim Ukraine didn't know help was already on the way. If you are to be believed, then Trump was making it clear there would be no help forthcoming without the "favor" being granted.

Get a lawyer, johnny. You;re going to need it when Trump sues you over your clumsy admissions of wrongdoing.

Oh, please, not one single person believes this nonsense.

The transcript is available, and it reveals no quid pro quo, and one was not possible anyhow given the circumstances I outlined supra.

As to facing a lawsuit from a billionaire, if that were true -- and, of course, it isn't -- then one lawyer would be unavailing.

Eric Ciaramella and the LTC both leaked top secret presidential communications and will end up being prosecuted for it once it's established they did it for political reasons.

The LTC has already been caught lying under oath to Congress when he testified that during the telephone call to Ukraine, he heard Trump "demand" an investigation into Biden and his son or aid would be withheld. Either he is lying, or the President, 9 other people who listened to the call and the President of Ukraine are lying because they said that didn't happen.

I predict that NONE of what RealTool just predicted will come to pass.

It is all just the flailing last gasp of the Republican tool.

In searching the Interwebs, I have located one salient remark:

This fellow Eric's identity had been gossip in DC for more than two weeks.

He worked with Brennan, and all of this stuff -- the fake dossier based on Russia sources and paid for by Hillary and the DNC, the lies to the FISA court to wiretap Trump's campaign, the framing of Flynn as confirmed by new texts between Page and Strzok, the actions of McCabe and Comey -- just reeks of partisan spying.

Sure, the transcript is what matters, and it reveals no quid pro quo because Ukraine restarted an investigation of Biden's corruption before the new Ukraine president was even elected, and because Ukraine didn't even know of the billion in aid until a month AFTER Trump's call.

That aside, any president has a duty to root out corruption, and Obama wanted to end corruption in Ukraine.

As to Biden, his son earned millions FROM corruption in Ukraine

Sure, the transcript is what matters, and it reveals a quid pro quo even though no quid pro quo is required for a crime to have been committed.

Trump specifically mentioned the Bidens over a dozen times in the phone call, but Hunter was never under investigation in Ukraine. Trump made it clear he wanted the favor of having the Bidens investigated in exchange for the "support" Zelinsky had thanked Trump for. "I would like you to do us a favor though" which any English speaker recognizes as meaning "no favor of investigating the Bidens, no support from the U.S.." That's a quid pro quo and johnfibs knows it.

Later, as Trump was talking to reporters, one asked him what he expected from Zelensky by his statements in the phone call. Trump answered on video that his intent was to get Zelinsky to look into the Bidens.

As johnflubs well knows, the identity of the Whistleblower is now irrelevant, as are any possible motives for his whistleblowing, because Trump has released the transcript of the supposedly "top secret" phone call the whistleblower said Trump made. After that admission by Trump, the investigation goes forward based on the released information, not based on what the whistleblower said.

".. the identity of the Whistleblower is now irrelevant …"

It is relevant and it has to be face to face,
If the Demos are going to try to impeach the President of the United States..!

".. the identity of the Whistleblower is now irrelevant …"

He can't escape prosecution for his political ploy, he took a risk and lost! He must now face the music.

I predict that NONE of what RealTool just predicted will come to pass.

It is all just the flailing last gasp of the Republican tool.

With Clown's kind permission, I will entitle my forthcoming novel "Flailing Last Gasp"...

You forgot the book's subtitle: "The Tragic Memoir of a Trump-Supporting Hypocrite-- johnforbes"

"...and because Ukraine didn't even know of the billion in aid until a month AFTER Trump's call."-johnfibs

"Again, then why was Trump asking for the "favor" in exchange for "support" Zelensky was expressing gratitude for? If Ukraine didn't know the aid had been authorized by Congress, then it only makes it more clearly an extortion since you claim Ukraine didn't know help was already on the way. If you are to be believed, then Trump was making it clear there would be no help forthcoming without the "favor" being granted."-me

"Oh, please, not one single person believes this nonsense."-johnfibs

Apparently at least ONE person believes it, johnny. As the New York Times reported about Sondland's recently updated testimony to Congress:

"Mr. Sondland had said in a text message exchange in early September with William B. Taylor Jr., the top American diplomat in Ukraine, that the president had been clear there was no quid pro quo between the aid and investigations of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., his son and other Democrats. But Mr. Sondland testified last month that he was only repeating what Mr. Trump had told him, leaving open the question of whether he believed the president. The new account suggested that Mr. Sondland may have not been completely forthcoming with Mr. Taylor, and that he was, in fact, aware that the aid was contingent upon the investigations.

In his updated testimony, Mr. Sondland recounted how he had discussed the linkage with Andriy Yermak, a top adviser to President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine, on the sidelines of a Sept. 1 meeting between Vice President Mike Pence and Mr. Zelensky in Warsaw. Mr. Zelensky had discussed the suspension of aid with Mr. Pence, Mr. Sondland said.<----wake up, johnny

So we see Ukraine DID know about the suspension of aid, contradicting the lie johnforbes keeps repeating about them not knowing about it, and that Sondland himself believed this was a quid pro quo.

Let's watch johnny's delusional world collapsing around him as the truth comes out, just as Trump is experiencing it.

The reinvestigation began BEFORE the Ukraine pres was elected.

The aid package was unknown to Ukraine until a month after Trump's call.

No quid, no quo.