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Deceptive Edit in the Mueller Report

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:00 pm
by johnforbes
Thanks to the judge in the Flynn case, it is now known that Mueller's account of John Dowd's call involved a very deceptive edit to make it appear that Dowd had done something wrong when the full transcript of what he said showed otherwise.

"Isn't it ironic that this man who kept indicting and prosecuting people for process crimes committed a false statement in his own report?" Dowd said. "By taking out half my words," he added that they changed the "tenor and the contents" of his conversation with Flynn's lawyer.

Re: Deceptive Edit in the Mueller Report

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:36 pm
by Clownkicker
Wow, Republicans finally found ONE apparent mistake in the Mueller Report and they act like it negates the entire thing! :clown:

But Trump lies multiple times a day in front of the world and no Republican cares in the least. Go figgur.

Re: Deceptive Edit in the Mueller Report

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:06 pm
by RealJustme
"Isn't it ironic that this man who kept indicting and prosecuting people for process crimes committed a false statement in his own report?" Dowd said. "By taking out half my words," he added that they changed the "tenor and the contents" of his conversation with Flynn's lawyer.
One of the many reason Mueller has told Congress he will not testify under oath before them.

Re: Deceptive Edit in the Mueller Report

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:11 am
by johnforbes
That was NOT a mistake.

They used … with quotes.

They left out exculpatory material, and that is a really serious thing for a lawyer to do.

It is particularly bad when the ONLY people Mueller charged were those who made small errors or told small process-type lies to Mueller.

Now here is a huge, important deceptive edit in the actual report.

Because of his military record, I was willing to give Mueller the benefit of the doubt, but then he hired 100 percent Democrats.

Even though Mueller has obviously turned Democrat, politics are a matter of opinion, but deceptive edits like that are seriously wrong.

Re: Deceptive Edit in the Mueller Report

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:33 am
by Clownkicker
"They left out exculpatory material, and that is a really serious thing for a lawyer to do."-johnflubs

Oh, you mean like Barr did with his four page summary of the Mueller Report?

And not a single Republican cares about Barr creating a completely false impression of what the Report actually said by leaving out most of what Mueller said about obstruction by Trump.

Re: Deceptive Edit in the Mueller Report

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:38 pm
by johnforbes
The error in what Mueller did was to add anything about obstruction if he couldn't lodge a charge.

A prosecutor should charge or shut the hell up.

However, what Democrats are trying to do with Barr is obstruct justice.

They know Barr knows what Strzok, Page, McCabe, Comey, et al. did...

Re: Deceptive Edit in the Mueller Report

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:19 pm
by Clownkicker
"The error in what Mueller did was to add anything about obstruction if he couldn't lodge a charge."-johnflubs

What you're actually saying then is there can never be an investigation of a sitting President because you can't lodge a charge for any crime the President commits.

That's just stupid.

Mueller's report should include everything they investigated so America knows what went on. The purpose of a Special Prosecutor investigation is not to charge people. It's to learn the truth, whatever that is. Charges may come from the investigation, but that isn't the purpose of it.

But it's clear that Mueller believes the President clearly committed obstruction. To not present that information to Congress and America would be a betrayal of America verging on treason.

Re: Deceptive Edit in the Mueller Report

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:42 am
by johnforbes
Obviously I didn't say that.

You did.

Just as obviously, we just got done two years of an investigation of a sitting president, and we now know the entire thing was a farce done for political reasons.

Mueller's chief deputy knew -- a full ten days before the probe began -- that the dossier was fake and paid for by Hillary.

They all also knew (Dept of State told them) that Steele hated Trump and wanted the fake dossier to be circulated in order to affect the 2016 election.

Re: Deceptive Edit in the Mueller Report

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:55 am
by Clownkicker
Get of your obsession with the dossier already, dimwit. It had very little to do with the investigation. It was not the reason for the investigation. it was just one more thing, whatever its worth.

Your irrelevant droning about it is simply desperation because you are unable to deny what you actually believe about Trump's obstruction.

You know as well as anyone that Trump tried to obstruct the investigation, (you watched him do it every day on TV) yet you are here ignoring the bulk of the report and harping on one irrelevant aspect of it.

Meanwhile, you refuse to criticize Barr and the Trump DoJ for refusing to enforce the law against Hillary because they are clearly biased in favor of Democrats.

As all conservatives, you're angry toward the wrong people.

Re: Deceptive Edit in the Mueller Report

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:16 pm
by RealJustme
Mueller is now saying there were several people involved in the 400 plus report and he can't be held accountable for everything that's in it. He also said once again, he WILL NOT testify before ANYONE about the investigation, he said he's done, now it's up to Congress to take action they feel fit against Trump.

Re: Deceptive Edit in the Mueller Report

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:58 pm
by johnforbes
There were THREE key things as a rationale to investigate Trump.

First, the fake dossier which they all knew was fake.

Second, a news story by a Yahoo reporter to whom they leaked the fake dossier.

Third, a story from Mother Jones -- a Left Wing rag to which they leaked the fake dossier.

So, this was a farce from the start.

Re: Deceptive Edit in the Mueller Report

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:59 am
by Clownkicker
Sadly, johnforbes persists in beating his dead hprse.

Of course, there were NOT "three key things as a rationale to investigate Trump." johnfibs is simply making it up.

There was an investigation into Russian meddling with our election and ties to the Trump campaign kept surfacing, so the campaign and Trump became subjects of the investigation. Then Trump started obstructing justice, which further made him subject to investigation.

Mother Jones caused Mueller to investigate Trump? *LOL* You're an gullible idiot if you believe that, johnny.

johnforbes knows that Trump committed obstruction. He KNOWS it. And, like Mueller, johnforbes is fairly sure Trump conspired with Russia. Every one of us heard Trump personally, literally, call for Russia to break the law and sabotage the Clinton campaign.

But despite johnforbes knowing all this, he will persist in his lies about the dossier because he believes that will somehow absolve Trump of his guilt.

Unfortunately, it won't.

Re: Deceptive Edit in the Mueller Report

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:13 am
by johnforbes
Clown, you seem unaware of the facts.

Do I want the Repubs now in power to write up a fake dossier about Hillary or Biden?

No, that would be dishonest and wrong.

Do I want the FBI and DoJ to abuse FISA and wiretap the next Dem nominee?

No, that would be just as dishonest as the Dems were in 2016.

Here are the facts we now know.

There were THREE key things as a rationale to investigate Trump.

First, the fake dossier which they all knew was fake.

Second, a news story by a Yahoo reporter to whom they leaked the fake dossier.

Third, a story from Mother Jones -- a Left Wing rag to which they leaked the fake dossier.

So, this was a farce from the start.

Re: Deceptive Edit in the Mueller Report

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:47 am
by Clownkicker
johnforbes, you seem unaware of the facts.

Do you want the Repubs now in power to write up a fake dossier about Hillary or Biden?

No, but it was the Republicans who ordered the dossier about Trump in the first place and you never criticized them for doing so. But now you criticize the Democrats decided to pay for it when Republicans wouldn't. And since that time, not a single thing in the dossier has been disproven. And at least two FISA warrants were issued prior to the dossier coming to light, so the dossier was not the deciding factor for a FISA warrant.

Do you want the FBI and DoJ to abuse their power to obstruct justice?

Yes, that is what you are condoning every day. You have no word of criticism for either the Trump Administration nor for your henchmen's made up stupid shit. You silently condone it all.

Here are the facts we now know.

The Trump campaign via Manafort and Flynn and Trump's sons and others broke the law repeatedly, working as foreign agents and laundering Russian money and meeting with Russians to get dirt on Hillary. Trump himself tried to obstruct the investigation into his henchmen and himself. We all saw it taking place on a daily basis.

johnforbes KNOWS beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump obstructed justice, but because the charges cannot be leveled against a sitting President, johnny takes that as evidence that Trump did not commit the crimes he knows perfectly well Trump did commit.

So, johnforbes' post is a farce from the start.

Re: Deceptive Edit in the Mueller Report

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:09 am
by johnforbes
Oh, please, you don't even believe such drivel.

If the DNC was ever hacked, where is the server now?

They never even turned it over to the forensic experts at the FBI for analysis.

Other than a few Russia ads on Facebook to influence your grandmother, nothing transpired.

Meanwhile, Obama went to the UK to seek to influence their Brexit election.

Obama spent our taxpayer dollars to attempt to influence the Israel election.

Re: Deceptive Edit in the Mueller Report

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:47 am
by RealJustme
Mueller continues to distance himself from the Mueller report, reminding everyone there were several people involved in the report and repeated that he will refuse to testify or answer questions about the report. Democrats have got the hint and have stopped demanding he testify before Congress.

Barr said there are serious concerns with the report but assures everyone, the report will be vetted for accuracy and completeness.

Re: Deceptive Edit in the Mueller Report

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:56 pm
by Clownkicker
Of course, Mueller hasn't "distanced" himself from his report.

It's just more of RealTool's made up stupid shit. :clown:

Re: Deceptive Edit in the Mueller Report

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:27 am
by johnforbes
Here are the facts we now know.

There were THREE key things as a rationale to investigate Trump.

First, the fake dossier which they all knew was fake.

Second, a news story by a Yahoo reporter to whom they leaked the fake dossier.

Third, a story from Mother Jones -- a Left Wing rag to which they leaked the fake dossier.

So, this was a farce from the start.