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Posted: **Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:25 pm**

France's Macron requests post-fire pause from politics. Macron said, "I will come back to you, as I committed, in the coming days" and asked the people of France to focus on Notre Dame. " It's time to set politics aside and work together, I'm ready, are you with me, we can do this"

He said: "What we've seen together in Paris overnight, it's our ability to unite. Macron said he wants to see the fire-ravaged Notre Dame cathedral to be rebuilt within five years and it's time to embrace each other to accomplish it.

Posted: **Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:18 pm**

Did Trump supporters burn Notre Dame to distract from Trump's legal troubles here at home?

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:17 am**

There goes that TDS of yours clown.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:38 am**

What? You mean it's okay for you to have MDS but it's bad for someone to have TDS? What makes you so special, dimwit?

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:31 am**

The media rule appears to be you can't speculate about the cause of the fire, but then they go straight ahead to speculate that it was accidental when church after church across France has been desecrated.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:36 am**

Fortunately I wasn't speculating. I simply did what FOXnews does and asked a question.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:53 pm**

What? You mean it's okay for you to have MDS but it's bad for someone to have TDS? What makes you so special, dimwit?

I can think logically clown, you can't because of your TDS. The fire was a win win for Macron, planned protests and hearings to vote on a confidence vote have all been called off, Macron has been spared for the time being.

Just how has it helped Trump distract from the report being released tomorrow? Has Democrats in Congress decided not to be critical of Trump during this period because of the fire in Paris, has the media backed off him?

You see clown, you look foolish every time you try and second guess me.

My advice is that you refrain from putting foot in mouth just because what I said triggers you, you're no match form me dude.

Posted: **Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:39 pm**

The official position of CNN and MSNBC and CBS and NBC is do NOT speculate that this might be yet another in the long string of church desecration across France.

And, after saying don't speculate, the media outlets then begin speculating that the cause was a spark during renovation.

But they have zero evidence.

Posted: **Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:52 am**

Officials warn that violence could flare up on the 23rd Saturday of Yellow Vest marches, the first since the Notre-Dame fire, with protesters angry that nearly €1 billion was pledged to restore the cathedral while their demands remain unsatisfied.

Looks like it's business as usual....Macron has no excuse now....!

Posted: **Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:28 pm**

In the good old days if a President had a good economy there was no need to commit crimes and obstruct justice.

Posted: **Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:26 am**

Elkin, my boy, you've got to grow up and accept the world as it is.

Mueller knew, 22 months ago, that there was no collusion.

And that isn't even a crime in this context anyhow.

Mueller hired ONLY Democrats for his 19 staff lawyers, and partisan ones at that, and even they -- after wasting 22 more months and 25 million dollars of taxpayer money -- could find no obstruction.

Barr and Rosenstein went over the Mueller report and told America that -- no obstruction.

And, without an underlying crime, there could be none anyhow because any executive has the right and duty to express anger and disdain at being framed.

Which is precisely what was done here.

This was an attempted soft coup d'etat because surely all the top intel officials knew very well that the dossier was fake and paid for by Hillary.

Let's give Comey and Brennan and Clapper credit for intelligence. Surely
they knew what the game was?

Posted: **Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:15 am**

"Mueller hired ONLY Democrats for his 19 staff lawyers, and partisan ones at that, and even they -- after wasting 22 more months and 25 million dollars of taxpayer money -- could find no obstruction."-johnfibs

No, that isn't what they found, johnny. They laid out a roadmap for Congress to take steps if it chooses. It is pretty clear from the report that there is a strong case to be made for obstruction.

Mueller specifically said he couldn't clear Trump of obstruction. If he could, he would have said so. (His words, not mine.)

Posted: **Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:13 am**

They laid out a roadmap for Congress to take steps if it chooses. It is pretty clear from the report that there is a strong case to be made for obstruction.

Mueller specifically said he couldn't clear Trump of obstruction. If he could, he would have said so. (His words, not mine.)

Roadmap through a very rough road....
Deliberate or a coincidence..because
What Mueller actually did, was guarantee Trump would keep the Presidency...

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:49 am**

Mueller specifically said he couldn't clear Trump of obstruction. If he could, he would have said so. (His words, not mine.)

Mueller also can't clear Trump of the 1,400 unsolved murders in Chicago. His job was to prove crimes, not to clear anyone of anything. Mueller couldn't prove ANY crimes after 35 million and two years of investigation with a staff of 90.

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:28 am**

That's right.

There is another glaring example of a person who didn't understand his job -- Comey.

After reciting problem after problem with Hillary's email (a law enforcement job), Comey then tried to take over the job of the DoJ and said no "reasonable" prosecutor would charge.

He was wrong, and it was also not his job.

Mueller's job was to investigate fairly, and that means NOT hiring ANYBODY who donated to ANY party.

Instead Mueller wasted 22 months on obstruction with 19 Democrat lawyers.

Moreover, Mueller or Weissmann didn't even understand that prosecutors don't clear or exonerate people.

They charge or shut the hell up.

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:03 am**

I see, so you Trump supporters are crowing daily about how Mueller cleared Trump and his campaign of any collusion with the Russians, but now you say Mueller can't clear someone of obstruction of justice because it's not his job to clear anyone.

Brilliant! *LOL*

Posted: **Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:34 pm**

I see, so you Trump supporters are crowing daily about how Mueller cleared Trump and his campaign of any collusion with the Russians

Yep he fucked up on that one didn't he?

Mueller didn't have any crimes on Trump so he tried creating crimes. His only chance was to spend hours interviewing Trump asking hundreds of questions they already had the answers for and HOPING that Trump says something that conflicts with the information they have, even if it was just a guess by Trump, or the information they had was wrong. Mueller would have charged him in a heartbeat with lying to the FBI. Doesn't make any difference the charge wouldn'tt hold up in a trial, charging him with a felony would do the damage they were after.

Posted: **Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:24 am**

Clown, I've explained the concept several times.

You can expect any politician to crow about anything he conceivably can.

Because, as Woodward said, it was Brennan pushing the "garbage dossier" and Trump was understandably happy that not even 19 partisan Democrat lawyers could not in 2 years pin anything on him.

Mueller was an idiot to say he couldn't "exonerate" Trump because that isn't what a prosecutor does.

Also, Mueller didn't exonerate Clownslacker for that parking ticket he got in 1956.

The job of a prosecutor is bring charges or shut up.

Posted: **Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:16 am**

Like I said, you Trump supporters are crowing daily about how Mueller cleared Trump and his campaign of any collusion with the Russians, but now you say Mueller can't clear someone of obstruction of justice because it's not his job to clear anyone.

Brilliant! *LOL*

Posted: **Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:13 am**

Let me again explain.

The truth is the truth (as Gertrude Stein, who went to med school at Johns Hopkins, could have said but didn't).

No prosecutor can "clear" or "exonerate" a person. It is NOT their function.

Mueller was an odd duck, and he hired 19 partisan Democrats as lawyers. He knew in 2 months there was no collusion, but for political reason obviously decided to press on for 22 more months before giving up on obstruction too.

So Mueller should not have issued any longwinded report at all, but did. and obviously the second part was tossing a bone to Democrats.

Now, let us recapitulate.

Politicians will crow about anything favorable.

But it is not -- repeat, not -- the function of any prosecutor to exonerate anybody.

They prosecute or shut the hell up.

Posted: **Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:14 pm**

johnforbes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:13 am Let me again explain.

The truth is the truth (as Gertrude Stein, who went to med school at Johns Hopkins, could have said but didn't).

No prosecutor can "clear" or "exonerate" a person. It is NOT their function.

Mueller was an odd duck, and he hired 19 partisan Democrats as lawyers. He knew in 2 months there was no collusion, but for political reason obviously decided to press on for 22 more months before giving up on obstruction too.

So Mueller should not have issued any longwinded report at all, but did. and obviously the second part was tossing a bone to Democrats.

Now, let us recapitulate.

Politicians will crow about anything favorable.

But it is not -- repeat, not -- the function of any prosecutor to exonerate anybody.

They prosecute or shut the hell up.

Johnnie you can believe whatever it is that you want to believe.

Collusion? Who claimed there was collusion? It wasn't Mueller. That's just a right wing red herring.

Mueller didn't investigate "collusion" Mueller investigated conspiracy. And he found it....the Mueller report showed that members of the Trump campaign conspired with the Russians in interfering with the elections. That's a fact. Right from the report.

As for obstruction....it's crystal clear that Trump committed obstruction.

18 U.S.C. § 1503 defines "obstruction of justice" as an act that "corruptly or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication, influences, obstructs, or impedes, or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede, the due administration of justice."

Posted: **Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:25 am**

It is not a matter of belief. If you understand our system at all, then you would know that prosecutors either charge or shut up.

Their role isn't to issue stamps saying "exonerated" or something silly like the leftist media outlets believe.

As to obstructing justice, Hillary DELETED 33,000 emails under subpoena, then bleached the server.

She also had staffers buy hammer and beat mobile phones to bits on the floor of the State Dept.

Who would do that but a person obstructing justice?

Posted: **Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:27 pm**

As for obstruction....it's crystal clear that Trump committed obstruction.

The media mobs points to the Mueller report and says Mueller
listed 10(some say 11) instances of obstruction...
Actually Mueller was only listing the areas he investigated....

Posted: **Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:51 pm**

Now Elk..if you want to see what crystal clear obstruction looks like ..Read this:

https://www.justice.gov/usa ... e

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:47 am**

the Mueller report showed that members of the Trump campaign conspired with the Russians in interfering with the elections. That's a fact. Right from the report.

Clown you really have to watch something other than CNN for your information, this is from Mueller's report.

Mueller "The investigation found no evidence any member of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:54 am**

But Hillary did meet in private with Putin, and she did sell uranium to Russia, and she did use Russian sources via Steele to cobble together the fake dossier, and her foundation received tens of millions...

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:38 am**

No Johnnie....

Hillary did not do any of the above. Move on already.

But what do we know. As per Mueller's report

Donnie Jr. and Kushner committed conspiracy.

Trump committed obstruction of justice.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:54 am**

As to obstructing justice, Hillary DELETED 33,000 emails under subpoena, then bleached the server.

She also had staffers buy hammer and beat mobile phones to bits on the floor of the State Dept.

Who would do that but a person obstructing justice?

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:14 am**

johnny, how do you explain the Trump DOJ's dereliction of duty for not prosecuting such a glaring case of obstruction of justice?

When are you going to start criticizing Trump for doing nothing about it? He's leaving you looking like a fool since apparently Trump's DOJ doesn't seem to agree with you.

Posted: **Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:03 pm**

johnny, how do you explain the Trump DOJ's dereliction of duty for not prosecuting such a glaring case of obstruction of justice?

When are you going to start criticizing Trump for doing nothing about it? He's leaving you looking like a fool since apparently Trump's DOJ doesn't seem to agree with you.

Clown where have you been these past 2+ years?
Hillary is serving her time ....Life without the Presidency!
That's why the Demos are in total meltdown and so angry with the President..

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:18 pm**

Donald the Dumbass........

The self proclaimed genius businessman who went broke running 5 casinos into the ground.
The self proclaimed loving family man who paid hush money to a porn star.
The self proclaimed humanitarian who embezzled money raised for poor kids with cancer.
The self proclaimed the master negotiator who;
1. Shut down the government and got nothing in return.
2. Paid ransom to the North Koreans to return a US prisoner.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:59 pm**

I still claim credit for the first mention ever of Diderot on this fine forum, which has existed since the days of wooden modems back in 1932.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:17 pm**

As we can see, johnforbes CAN'T explain the Trump DOJ's dereliction of duty for not prosecuting such a glaring case of obstruction of justice.

johnforbes doesn't have the least criticism of Trump, even when Trump tacitly condones obstruction of justice. Trump can apparently do no wrong in johnny's eyes.

So much for johnforbes absurd claim of having rational opinions.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:36 pm**

When Hillary deleted 33,000 emails under subpoena, then BleachBit-ed the server, and pounded her cell phones with hammers, that was clearly obstruction.

Now, if you want a criticism of Trump, he made a terrible decision in appointing Jeff Sessions who did absolutely nothing to restore the rule of law.

Obama's intel officials, and other top officials, protected Hillary with a fake investigation and also used the garbage dossier to abuse FISA and wiretap Trump -- a scandal which makes Watergate look petty and tiny.

It was an attempted coup d'etat.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:47 pm**

"Now, if you want a criticism of Trump, he made a terrible decision in appointing Jeff Sessions who did absolutely nothing to restore the rule of law."-johnflubs

And then Trump went and hired another guy who isn't doing anything about the most blatant case of obstruction of justice you've ever seen.

How do you explain that dereliction of duty by your President, johnny? Why won't Trump restore the rule of law?

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:48 pm**

Trump says he only hires the best people. Could he have been lying to us all this time? Or is he simply incompetent?

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:54 pm**

Trump says he only hires the best people. Could he have been lying to us all this time? Or is he simply incompetent?

Trump "I hire thousands of people, I seek out the best and if they turn out to be bad hires I fire them!"

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:31 pm**

So RealTool takes the "He's simply incompetent" side. Trump has let go over 120 people in his executive office alone. That's one person per week that turns out to be a "bad hire".

What seems to be his problem with hiring good people? johnny? Thoughts?

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:45 pm**

Clownkicker wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:31 pm So RealTool takes the "He's simply incompetent" side. Trump has let go over 120 people in his executive office alone. That's one person per week that turns out to be a "bad hire".

What seems to be his problem with hiring good people? johnny? Thoughts?

Clown it isn't uncommon as people age for numerous neurological disorders to manifest in the kind of symptoms you are portraying. Seriously, for your own health I suggest you see a neurologist. It could be just foolishness, but to rule out any neurological illnesses I suggest a complete work up. And maybe some sort of anti anxiety medication.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:33 pm**

RealTool, it isn't uncommon as some people who are born natural scumbag liars to manifest in the kind of symptoms you are portraying. Seriously, for your own welfare I suggest you see a psychiatrist. It could be just partisan foolishness, but to rule out any neurological illnesses I suggest a complete psychoanalysis. And maybe turn yourself in to your local police.

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:27 pm**

So let's get this one straight, the current president is compromised Russian asset who sold out his country while lining his pockets, dismantling our democracy while goading his dimwitted worshipers into a murderous frenzy....

But I suppose that we can say he least he didn't run a private email server......OH wait, the traitorous fuck did that too!

Posted: **Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:16 pm**

So let's get this one straight, the current president is compromised Russian asset who sold out his country while lining his pockets

Elk you make clown sound half intelligent.

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