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Things that happen near in time are not necessarily caused by one another.

Elkin is certainly smart enough to know that, so this thread is deeply dishonest.

johnforbes wrote:Things that happen near in time are not necessarily caused by one another.

Elkin is certainly smart enough to know that, so this thread is deeply dishonest.

Are you kidding me.. Elk is clueless :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

"Things that happen near in time are not necessarily caused by one another."-dishonestjohn

And yet you had no problem with Trump taking credit for record Black unemployment and record high Dows.

What a difference a day (or week) makes, huh, johnny? :lol:

"Elkin is certainly smart enough to know that, so this thread is deeply dishonest."-johnfibs

And yet there are many threads by RealTool based on the same faulty premise, but not a peep out of you for some reason.

I never thought Trump should associate himself with the stock market because it goes up and down.

As to the economy, Trump's tax cut should certainly help corporate profit and has clearly had wonderful results for black unemployment.

The stock market has gone essentially up since about April 2009, so I've been expecting a pullback for a long, long time, and preparing for it as well.

The dilemma is that you don't want to leave potential gains on the table, so I've been tilting toward international for many years now (particularly the value side thereof) and hoping the USD remains a tad weak.

"As to the economy, Trump's tax cut should certainly help corporate profit and has clearly had wonderful results for black unemployment."-johnfibs

Black unemployment is essentially flat (.1% lower after a year) as the day Trump took office.
So how do you see stopping an eight year long decrease a "wonderful result"?

During Obama's disastrous eight years....niggers stopped looking for work...
instead they kept busy rioting and looting living off the sale of drugs and those stolen goods....
Unemployment indicators use the numbers of those who register for work and
may receive unemployment benefits...
So while it may appear unemployment was down.... the niggers just dropped out
of the work force and were no longer being counted...
If unemployment is down now it's because niggers now have jobs ...why?
There are no riots, no looting...they are earning their money! :o :lol:

Clownkicker wrote:"As to the economy, Trump's tax cut should certainly help corporate profit and has clearly had wonderful results for black unemployment."-johnfibs

Black unemployment is essentially flat (.1% lower after a year) as the day Trump took office.
So how do you see stopping an eight year long decrease a "wonderful result"?

I love the liberals talking points and cheap bullshit that falls out of your mouth. You are such a fucking sheep its funny. You know damn good well lower taxes help create jobs and feed you slimy ass union pukes. Again I cant figure why your so fucking stupid and in denial.. Lower taxes benefit everyone.. Its no wonder you get off on sucking the shit out of Obamas asshole..

As a member of the Left Wing, Clownslacker cannot see past partisanship.

I'd like to see poor people, and blacks, etc. actually doing better.

Democrats want them to do badly and depend on welfare, food stamps, and so forth.

Democrats want them to do badly and depend on welfare, food stamps, and so forth.

Exactly....Notice the Demos don't talk about helping the "Dreamers" they talk about PROTECTING them!... :o :lol:

They talk about these absurdly titled "Dreamers" and say they are great.

But then they say none of them can figure out how to get legal.

I wonder if all the conservatards who credited Trump with the rise in the stock market....

Will blame him for a two day 2000 point crash? The biggest crash in history....

:lol:

The real comedy is not in attempting to link a businessman to market moves, but in the belated attempt of Barry O's fans to say that he helped the economy.

Seriously, the "community organizer" who took office with less than 1 million net worth?

And even that was from two books about the many wonders of himself, the kid who grew up in Hawaii puffing pot and buying "blow" when he had the money.

Will blame him for a two day 2000 point crash?

2,000 points in two days, when did that happen? Dude you watch too much CNN.

Another 1000 point drop today for the Dow Jones.

How are your 401ks doing?

:lol:

Markets have trended generally upward since April 2009.

A good correction was inevitable, and this may -- or may not -- be one.

However, it would be great if the market would go down about 25 percent and create a good buying opportunity.

Calling it a "crash" and ascribing it to Trump, that's absurd (as Elkin well knows).

A good correction was inevitable, and this may -- or may not -- be one.

However, it would be great if the market would go down about 25 percent and create a good buying opportunity.

Agree! Unemployment is at a 45 year old low and businesses are expanding while coming back to America, plus my gold investments are climbing. Trump is the Man! Soros and others who are selling off trying to tank the market are about to lose billions. I predict the DOW at close to 30,000 by the end of the year.

johnforbes wrote:Markets have trended generally upward since April 2009.

A good correction was inevitable, and this may -- or may not -- be one.

However, it would be great if the market would go down about 25 percent and create a good buying opportunity.

Calling it a "crash" and ascribing it to Trump, that's absurd (as Elkin well knows).

From what I remember...Trump wasn't bragging how the stock market was going up when Obama was president.

Trump was only bragging about how the stock market was going up when he was president!

:lol:

RealJustme wrote:

A good correction was inevitable, and this may -- or may not -- be one.

However, it would be great if the market would go down about 25 percent and create a good buying opportunity.

I predict the DOW at close to 30,000 by the end of the year.

:lol:

"Calling it a "crash" and ascribing it to Trump, that's absurd (as Elkin well knows)."-johnflubs

And it's going to be even more absurd when conservatives here inevitably try to ascribe it to Obama.


30,000 by the end of the year... :lol: :lol: :lol:

There's one born every minute, I guess.

Tool, the only time your gold is going to go up is when the rest of the economy is in trouble.
If the Dow is near 30,000, your gold will be 'near' $600. :o

I keep a shopping list on my desk in case the stock market drops a lot and creates added opportunity.

Rothschild said "...the time to buy is when there's blood in the streets."

You better buy now, johnny!

I have it on good advice--- 30,000 Dow by the end of the year!
And better buy gold while you're at it.



I would be thrilled if it just got back to 26,000. :lol:

I would be thrilled if it just got back to 26,000.

As long as it doesn't go back to Obama's 18,161 before Trump won the election we should all be thrilled. It was Trump who gave us 26,000.

The funny thing is that, on several of the finance forums I read, the "experts" were saying Hillary would win.

The "experts" were also saying that markets dislike uncertainty (true) and that Trump would be terrible for markets (false).

I concluded that the "experts" were not fluent in Blue Collar-ese, that Trump would win, and that he would be good for business.

That did pan out, and that has nothing to do with this recent downturn which is related to a spike in US long-term Treasury issuances.

"2,000 points in two days, when did that happen?"-RealTool

Undoubtedly RealTool is feeling much better about 3,000 points in 14 days... :shock:

"The funny thing is that, on several of the finance forums I read, the "experts" were saying Hillary would win."-johnfoibles

No, the funny thing is you were listening to election opinions on a finance forum. Who was there that could be considered "experts" in politics?

"I concluded that the "experts" were not fluent in Blue Collar-ese, that Trump would win, and that he would be good for business.
That did pan out, and that has nothing to do with this recent downturn which is related to a spike in US long-term Treasury issuances."-johnfoibles

What I find pretty hard to believe is that the markets go into a tailspin just over a long anticipated quarter- or half-point increase in interest rates. Why do I feel like an 11% 'correction' isn't the end of it? Could part of it be that we are never going to get anywhere near 4% growth like Trump says, but we WILL have massive increases in the long term debt?

The upset in D.C. has to be partly to blame, and the upset in D.C. has a LOT to do with Trump, johnny.

Well, considering you ran away like a scared rabbit and hid when all your ASS-ertions and confident predictions about Trump proved to be utter hogwash (as you always do after suffering a humiliating beatdown, hoping your faux pas will be forgotten) and your post claiming black unemployment at 7.8% was lower than 7.7%, why should we place any faith in your latest bullshit?

The upset in D.C. has to be partly to blame, and the upset in D.C. has a LOT to do with Trump, johnny.

Well if that's the case then by the end of 2018 will crash as D.C. swamp monsters are rounded up along with Hillary. Remember when Trump said "locker her up", dude he meant it. It's beginning to look like Mueller may one of those facing a grand jury. I've goose bumps running up my legs thinking about it.

Strange.... usually warm piss running down your leg doesn't cause goose bumps.

Unless you get off on golden showers, of course, the way Trump does.

Clown you have a one track mind.

D.C. was calm today as far as one could see.

In Virginia, of course, one of my senators was caught colluding with Russia:


Senator Mark Warner got caught having extensive contact with a lobbyist for a Russian oligarch. Warner did not want a “paper trail” on a “private” meeting (in London) he requested with Steele of fraudulent ...