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Carl Sagan 1943-1996
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:59 am
by snakeoil
This man must have had a crystal ball.
“Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my children’s or grandchildren’s time—when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what’s true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness.”
Re: Carl Sagan 1943-1996
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:41 am
by johnforbes
To some extent, Sagan may turn out to be wrong about the flight of manufacturing away from developed nations.
If we have open borders, as the globalists want, manufacturing will flee, but look at the U.S. today with 12 million illegal aliens who leave taxpayers with the burden of educating their kids.
In some states, almost half the prison population consists of illegals.
Re: Carl Sagan 1943-1996
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:38 pm
by sillydaddy
Predicting doom did not take Sagan any extraordinary accumulation of knowledge or effort...
because throughout history and without fail, every single human society has declined..many to extinction..
Re: Carl Sagan 1943-1996
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:28 pm
by elklindo69
Re: Carl Sagan 1943-1996
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:44 pm
by sillydaddy
"...You know, my belief is that the story the Bible tells about God creating this magnificent Earth on which we live, that that is essentially true, that is fundamentally true. Now, whether it happened exactly as we might understand it reading the text of the Bible? That, you know, I don’t presume to know." ~~ OBAMA
So, ..what was your point, Elk?
Re: Carl Sagan 1943-1996
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:10 pm
by Clownkicker
silly, if you would simply read the two quotations, the first is about a guy who doesn't know whether or not he believes in science. That is, whether he believes in testable, reproducible facts. In other words, he's admitting he's an idiot. That's the Republican policy.
The second is about a guy who is pandering to the dimwitted with some vague metaphor for the universe, but at least admits he doesn't know whether or not to believe what God has supposedly told him. That said, he wants science taught in the science classroom, not silly fairy tales, and that's the Democrat policy.
Imagine if scientists went into Sunday school classrooms and insisted that the big bang and evolution had to be taught equally alongside the Bible as the possible true faith. You would be shitting your pants over it.
Then you have some idea how stupid it is to insist on teaching religion in the science classroom.
Re: Carl Sagan 1943-1996
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:07 pm
by sillydaddy
What really sticks in your craw is that not only did Obama said it ..."essentially true...fundamentally true.."
But that it forces you to call Obama a bullshitter.. :lol: :lol:
Re: Carl Sagan 1943-1996
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:26 pm
by elklindo69
Rubio was specifically asked...how old is the planet?
Obama was asked whether or not he believed the earth was created in 6 days as stated in the bible.
They are clearly two different questions...with two distinctly different answers. I think you can even figure them out...Sillydaddy!!
LMFAO!!!
:lol:
Re: Carl Sagan 1943-1996
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:53 am
by johnforbes
The date was June 23, 1902 when this fine forum opened.
Elkin was a young Marxist then, and remains so.
Re: Carl Sagan 1943-1996
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:05 am
by Clownkicker
johnny, I believe you're mistaking elklindo for Steve Bannon.
“I’m a Leninist,” Steve Bannon told a writer for The Daily Beast, in late 2013. “Lenin wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal, too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment.” :o
Re: Carl Sagan 1943-1996
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:03 am
by johnforbes
No, I don't think so.
However, even though Lenin was a crucial communist, I did think some of his songs when he was with the Beatles were sort of acceptable.
Re: Carl Sagan 1943-1996
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:52 pm
by sillydaddy
Elk...I am not a Rubio fan...but if you are saying Rubio is an idiot.....I'm saying Obama is one too.. :lol: :lol: