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Trump's "Ministry of Truth"

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:35 pm
by elklindo69
Sales of George Orwell’s dystopian drama 1984 have soared after Kellyanne Conway, adviser to the reality-TV-star-turned-president, Donald Trump, used the phrase “alternative facts” in an interview. As of Tuesday, the book was the sixth best-selling book on Amazon.

Comparisons were made with the term “newspeak” used in the 1949 novel, which was used to signal a fictional language that aims at eliminating personal thought and also “doublethink”. In the book Orwell writes that it “means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them”.

The connection was initially made on CNN’s Reliable Sources. “Alternative facts is a George Orwell phrase,” said Washington Post reporter Karen Tumulty.

Conway’s use of the term was in reference to White House press secretary Sean Spicer’s comments about last week’s inauguration attracting “the largest audience ever”. Her interview was widely criticized and she was sub-tweeted by Merriam-Webster dictionary with a definition of the word fact. On last night’s Late Night with Seth Meyers, the host joked: “Kellyanne Conway is like someone trying to do a Jedi mind trick after only a week of Jedi training.”

In 1984, a superstate wields extreme control over the people and persecutes any form of independent thought.


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Re: Trump's "Ministry of Truth"

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:45 pm
by Grog
"Alternative facts" matter in the Trumpian post-factual era.

They ain't yet figured out that if they really want to go down it (calm down, Forbes, I didn't say "go down on it") that it's a two-way street.

Re: Trump's "Ministry of Truth"

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:44 pm
by johnforbes
That pic has been debunked by CNN's own photo.

The Trump crowds were enormous, and yes more watched worldwide than any inaugural (streaming tech).

Re: Trump's "Ministry of Truth"

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:50 pm
by tvd
What the fuck does it matter?

Sheesh.

Re: Trump's "Ministry of Truth"

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:40 pm
by Grog
No, it hasn't been debunked except in Kellyann's alternative fact world.

It apparently matters to "President" Donnie who sent Sean "Baghdad Bob" Spicer out there to whine about it last Saturday in the Trump admin's first press briefing.

Re: Trump's "Ministry of Truth"

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:35 am
by elklindo69
tvd wrote:What the fuck does it matter?

Sheesh.
Because Trump and Spicer decided to make it a big deal.

Then Conway went Orwellian with the "alternative facts."

:lol:

Re: Trump's "Ministry of Truth"

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:23 am
by johnforbes
The only purpose of leftists comparing those two photos was to slam Trump.

And this was debunked by CNN's own gigapixel photo which anybody can examine.

For 8 years, Obama and his minions lied about Obamacare, Benghazi, IRS targeting, the missing tape backup for Lois Lerner, on and on and on.

Re: Trump's "Ministry of Truth"

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:21 pm
by elklindo69
Now Johnnie is screaming bloody murder because Trump is supposedly being "slammed."

The conservatards went after Obama with fake news for years. Trump was the leader of the Birther movement. Stop whining already...welcome to the club!!!

:lol:

Re: Trump's "Ministry of Truth"

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:51 pm
by johnforbes
Sonny boy, I'm hardly "screaming."

The truth is the truth, and CNN's own gigapixel photo may be examined by anybody.

The crowds were enormous, and given the advances in streaming tech no doubt it was the most watched inaugural ever in total terms.