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By elklindo69
#84714
Fourteen million Americans would lose medical insurance by next year under a Republican plan to dismantle Obamacare that would also reduce the budget deficit, a nonpartisan congressional research office said on Monday, throwing President Donald Trump and Republicans on the defensive as they press forward with replacement legislation.

The U.S. Congressional Budget Office forecast that 24 million more people would be uninsured in 2026 if the plan being considered by the House of Representatives to replace the 2010 Affordable Care Act were adopted. Obamacare, as President Barack Obama's signature piece of domestic policy is commonly called, expanded insurance to about 20 million Americans. (bit.ly/2mkdeYA)

Hours after the CBO report was released, the House Budget Committee postponed its consideration of the Republican bill to Thursday from Wednesday. Prior to the report, Republicans had been planning to vote soon on the bill in the House, where it is likely to pass, and send it to the Senate, where its outlook is uncertain.

The CBO projected that 52 million people would be uninsured by 2026 if the bill became law, compared with 28 million who would not have coverage that year if the law remained unchanged.

Two House of Representatives committees have approved the legislation to dismantle Obamacare that was unveiled by Republican leaders a week ago, but it faces opposition from not only Democrats but also medical providers including doctors and hospitals and many conservatives. The CBO report's findings could make the Republican plan a harder sell for lawmakers, particularly in the U.S. Senate.
By johnforbes
#84718
The CBO touts itself as nonpartisan, but of course is not.

Almost nothing in D.C. is.

Given the disaster of Obamacare, Repubs should just have deleted the individual mandate and let the states pick up the Medicaid angle.

It is amusing that Democrats are so dishonest they are calling any other plan a "bloodbath."
By Intrepid
#84724
BummerCare was designed from the outset to fail and allow no alternative except the single payer system which has been the goal of the socialist left all along.

It was envisioned that Obozo's successor, Killery Rotten Clinton, who was 100% certain to win, would usher in the Glorious Peoples Healthcare Collective.

Whoopsies!
By Clownkicker
#84728
"The CBO touts itself as nonpartisan, but of course is not."-johnfoibles

Thanks, johnny, I was going to accept the estimates at face value until you reminded us the head of the CBO is a Republican appointee.

As you point out, it is very likely the Republican-led CBO made the numbers look much better than they actually are.
By johnforbes
#84729
Just as, when Obamacare was pending and it was known that a 1 trillion cost would prove daunting in political terms, the CBO by magic came in under that.

The CBO is NOT non-partisan, and nobody should think so.
By Clownkicker
#84731
So what you're trying to say if that Donaldcare is a scam that is doomed to fail spectacularly.

Why don't you just say what you mean, johnny?

Why do you always have to dance around desperately trying to put a good spin on partisan bullshit you know is bullshit?
By johnforbes
#84735
The most eloquent commentary I've seen on the topic was above, and I quote it here:

Just as, when Obamacare was pending and it was known that a 1 trillion cost would prove daunting in political terms, the CBO by magic came in under that.

The CBO is NOT non-partisan, and nobody should think so.
By sillydaddy
#84738
".. The U.S. Congressional Budget Office forecast that 24 million more people would be uninsured in 2026 if.."
Sound like a lot.....until you consider the US population by 2026 will be over 347 million...
By Clownkicker
#84742
Hell, what's another 7% of the American populace becoming uninsured?
It doesn't just SOUND like a lot. It IS a lot.

7% more unemployed doesn't matter either, right?
5% unemployed? 12% unemployed? No difference, as long as you aren't one of them, eh silly? :shock:

sillydummy, 24 million MORE unnecessarily uninsured IS a lot, even if the population were a billion.
If you doubt me, go ask your local hospital.

If you were one of the newly uninsured, you would realize just how large a number it is.
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By namngulfvet
#84747
Clownkicker wrote:Hell, what's another 7% of the American populace becoming uninsured?
It doesn't just SOUND like a lot. It IS a lot.

7% more unemployed doesn't matter either, right?
5% unemployed? 12% unemployed? No difference, as long as you aren't one of them, eh silly? :shock:

sillydummy, 24 million MORE unnecessarily uninsured IS a lot, even if the population were a billion.
If you doubt me, go ask your local hospital.

If you were one of the newly uninsured, you would realize just how large a number it is.
So you would rather have elders paying over $5000 or more on a deductible knowing they can not afford prices like that.. Ya you and your libs are all fucking heart ya moron. Goddamn your stupid

FYI last month alone jobs created was 253000 morn then Ojackass did in two months
By Clownkicker
#84752
namandgulfdumbfuck, stop making up stupid shit.

"So you would rather have elders paying over $5000 or more on a deductible knowing they can not afford prices like that."-namandgulfliar

I have been against these Romneycare/private insurance scams/schemes from day one. None of them can work.
I have been for a single payer system all along. NOBODY should have to pay a $5000 deductible.
They also shouldn't have to go without medical care because they can't afford insurance, which 24 million more Americans will no longer have under Donaldcare.

This is what Republican's want. They believe that if you can't afford insurance, you don't deserve medical care.
That's why Trump (and you) are happy to remove 24 million from the rolls of the insured...they can't afford to buy it and you don't care. You actually cheer for it.

"FYI last month alone jobs created was 253000 morn then Ojackass did in two months"-namandgulfdumbfuck

FYI, the Bureau of Labor Statistics says:
-----"Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 235,000 in February" 2017 under Trump
-----"Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 242,000 in February" 2016 under Obama
-----"Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 295,000 in February" 2015 under Obama

Jobs gains for February are lower under Trump than either two previous years under Obama.
Choke on that, namandgulfignorantstupidfucker.
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