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#72718
Maybe this will be a wake up call for gays, those Muslims they're protesting in support off, hate them because they're gay, they want to kill them more so than any other Americans.

I'm betting gays will still vote for Hillary even knowing she wants to continue Obama's plan of bringing as many Muslims into the country as he can, many of them extremist none of them properly vetted.

What's interesting is the scum bag bragged about being a Muslim extremist but because he was Muslim, he wasn't investigated before the slaughter. We're spending billions and have thousands spying on Americans but people like him are ignored out of being PC.
#72719
This is my neck of the woods...Orlando is only 1 hour away, and I get all local news from Orlando.
The thing is....this could have happened at Disney, Universal, a busy area known as I-Drive, etc.

Now, that may seem simplistic....but I am watching local news right now, and I am hearing the same old shit....

"We will not change the way we condut our lives" "We are resilient" "If we let the terrorists control our lives, they will win" You know the BS they spew regarding terrorists.

So, we see how well that "narrative" works against a determined terrorit. It doesn't.
Our "leaders" must get of the pot and enact effective measures to address these threats.

If they don't, I for one would support the people themselves taking the matter into their own hands, and putting a stop to this shit. Our government is not effective. They are not doing anything.

Measures such as that suggested by Intrepid might make a potential muzzie terrorist think twice...just depends if he is a true muzzie.
#72720
If they don't, I for one would support the people themselves taking the matter into their own hands, and putting a stop to this shit. Our government is not effective. They are not doing anything.
Just saw on CCN where this nut case was reported to the FBI, when starting looking into his activities the DOJ pulled them off the investigation.


Plus it appears there were 300 men in the bar, he had to be bumping into them as he was killing them, they apparently just let themselves be victims for hours "by one man" until finally the police raided the building. What kind of men are they? Just imagine if just 5% had their own gun, that would have given 15 people to fire back. Watch gun sales go up, the times require responsible citizens to start packing since our government is more interested in destroying the lives of those who don't support the leftist agenda than protecting citizens.
#72724
It is the same namby-pamby response that they always put out.

They have NOT meentioned the fact that this was a muzzie terror act. Not once since I have been watching now for a few hours.

Now Alan Grayson, (D) congressman is speaking...and what is he saying?

We want to thank all the first responders, Mayor Dyer, Sheriff Demmings, yada yada yada.
Oh yeah....now it was a "hate crime".....ya think?
Hah!! Reporter asked was this a terrorist attack....andsew "There is no evidence of that at this time..."
He is so far off base he thinks the the dead count is 20. It is 50 at this time.

Buffoons, all of them.
#72728
"This should be the time America abandons its ideology of political correctness and does the things necessary to protect this country."
That person is quoting Trump, he said it about 6 months ago.

Well Gov Scott finally was shamed into agreeing it was an act of terror. He's really upbeat in that speech as if he's celebrating how well him and his people did. He just teared up talking about his own kids and grandchildren...nothing so fare about why this identified radical Muslim was allowed to do this and what they're going to do to stop the 100's of other "identified" radical Muslims in Florida planning attacks. Gun control failed once again, even though this scum was identified and investigated as a radical Muslim, Florida gave him a gun permit (PC gone wild)

Just listened to Senator Thompson, she blamed guns as the issue, not one mention of the shooter or his motive.

Some of the first responders got blood all over themselves helping the victims, you know they're now worried about HIV and God knows what else.
#72729
Dogshitzilla defends the muzzie killer and equates Christians with these goat fucking scum.

But what seems do you expect from the stupidity of a public school teacher who got booted from this site for publicly calling for the assassination of a sitting president?.

How much longer before you advocate murdering Trump, Dogshitzilla?

Perved on any too young to have hair at your local Target store?
Go suck your pot puffing buddy AssClown Loser Lucky's dead dick. He's just next door in the other Carolina.

I agree though. If our elected officials won't do anything, We The People have to step up. The Founders would expect nothing less.
Look for Obozo, Killery, Pocahontas and all the muzzie apologists to not call this massacre what it was but call for more restrictions on law abiding citizens.
"Never let a good crisis go to waste."

I'll give 50 to 1 Obozo STILL will not say the words, "Muslim terrorist."
Get your money down libtards.
#72730
Well the terrorist himself was afraid our politicians would not give him credit for being a Muslim extremist so he actually called 911 and said he was going to kill infidels in the name of ISIS. Thank God Hillary isn't our Secretary of State or that recording would go missing, let's watch Obama put a spin on this and go back to his gun rant.

Pride functions are now targets so the FBI might actually do something.
#72733
Worst mass shooting in US history.......
another first for Obama!

He just spoke from the WH and didn't miss the opportunity to blame the guns......

News report just now....they caught another terrorist in LA fully armed on his way to a gay pride event!

I'm betting Clown and Grog are as nervous as cats in a Thai restaurant!
#72734
Once again Obama refused to acknowledge this was a Islamic terrorist attack, he called it a terror and hate attack with no mention the hate came from the Koran. WE all know had this guy attacked a Tea Party group the media would be saying "See their actions brought it upon themselves". Well the gays certainly brought it upon themselves for offending the Koran, but the media will never go there.

He also called on Americans to go about their lives and not let these attacks scare us into changing who we are. This coming from a man who has doubled the personal security for him and his family and has made it a requirement that both his daughters will receive a full Secret Service detail for them and their families for the rest of their lives. Oh and the fence around the White House has twice been re-enforced under Obama and it's being raised two feet taller. Why did Obama change who he is?
#72750
No, JustFreedManIntrepidMe, the NRA sold the guns to the easily terrified conservative ignorati. You people gobbled their scare tactics like Forbes gobbling chota at a Fire Island festival. That's a fact (on all accounts). :lol:

And this will always be remembered as a watershed day in which conservative 'Mericans and conservative Muslims joined hands to kill gays, one of their many common enemies.
#72751
I have made that argument before (to Leroy) that they are all just religious fanatics. Conservative religious fanatics. Just like many Christians. And I watched Leroy twist and deny that. And I watched those on the Christian hating Left here defend those Muslims in the sense of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Dog is correct. What is surprising is that for the first time on this board and maybe in my life, I just witnessed a liberal (self described classic liberal) condemn Muslim religious fanatics. Conservatives on this board have for years lectured that gays would be one of the first targets of these Islamic fanatics. And they were attacked as bigots for saying so!

Progressives progressing. :lol:
#72752
Grog it does validate what Trump has been warning us about, plus it proves gun free zones are less safe because only the bad guys have the guns. Come to think of it, I believe every mass shooting took place in a gun free zone. The scum bags pick easy targets, 300 gay men and one bad guy, it took men with guns to save the asses of the 200 hundred that weren't shot. Why they did nothing as he walked among them elbow, to elbow, shooting is beyond belief.

Muslims will soon be cleansing Europe of gays, their forces are in place now and just waiting until they've reached a higher number, after all Merkel says she wants to accept another million, so why the rush to attack?

Had that been a Tea Party meeting of 300 (even old men and women), the bad guy would have been warm temperature by the time the police got there. This isn't Europe so we'll keep our gays safe, Europe will fold when 100's of terrorists attacks happen on a weekly basis, they'll surrender and allow their gays to sacrificed.
#72753
I have always condemned ALL religion.

I haven't singled out and identified Islam, just as Christians won't call the Catholic Church Sex Scandal the Christian Church Sex Scandal even though the Catholic Church is not only the biggest, but the originator of the organized Christian faith.

Are you following me on that one, Brandon?

If you boys are willing to call the Catholic Church Sex Scandal the Christian Church Sex Scandal, well...
#72754
As of mid day, Trump has received over 50,000 new likes on his FB page.
Killery Rotten Clinton is shitting bricks. The lights will burn all night long in the White House as Obozo's lackies try to find a way to hang this on the NRA. Credible reports claim Obozo wore out two prayer rugs praying the shooter was a white male NRA Tea party member.

Homos were never the enemy. Disgusting and amusing yes. The enemy, no. Certainly not deserving of being gunned down like Grog's relatives. The tragedy there is all those innocent Jews and Grog's DNA survives.
#72755
The next ones off the roof after the homos will be shrill, angry, ugly feminists who refuse the burka.
Once Killery realizes she's a twofer watch for her to advocate a thermo nuclear response to ISIS.

Da shits about to get real up in dis bitch.
#72758
The next ones off the roof after the homos will be shrill, angry, ugly feminists who refuse the burka.
Yep, they just interviewed this scum bag's former wife, she said he would often beat her if his dinner wasn't ready when he got home or he didn't like it, your typical sharia law follower. These are the type of men Obama has brought into the country by the millions in his 7 years in office. The question is why?
#72762
Grog, not everybody here is gay like you.

Try to focus on the topic because it is an interesting question whether FL bars should be fun-free zones (they are under the relevant statute).

They did patdowns at the gay bar in question, and those jokes write themselves, but it is a sad outcome there.
#72764
As far as I know, you're the only gay member here, Forbes. I'm also sure you're the only person here or in your real life that thinks you're safely closeted.

I'm also sure that being the fan of "guns" you are, that you don't want to see gun-free zones anywhere. :lol:
#72770
The gunman who murdered at least 50 people in a Florida nightclub early Sunday morning was a follower of a controversial radical imam who was released early from prison last year despite warnings from prosecutors that he would recruit more people to carry out violent acts.
Will there be accountability for those who closed the investigations into the Orlando shooter's ISIS ties or for the early release of the radical imam who prosecutors warned would do just what he did? Why is or own government enabling terrorists and illegals?
#72772
Trump later went on to congratulate himself on Twitter;

Donald J. TrumpVerified account ‏@realDonaldTrump
Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!


There really is something pathological about this individual.

He really should delete his twitter feed............

:oops:
#72780
"What is surprising is that for the first time on this board and maybe in my life, I just witnessed a liberal (self described classic liberal) condemn Muslim religious fanatics."-brandon

That's ridiculous. I am famous here for condemning ALL religious fanatics of EVERY stripe.
As Grog said, he also condemns them all.
Dogzilla has said all the Abrahamic religions are equally bad.
Exactly WHO here are you claiming hasn't condemned them?

"Conservatives on this board have for years lectured that gays would be one of the first targets of these Islamic fanatics. And they were attacked as bigots for saying so!"-brandon

Not on this board they weren't. You must be thinking about some other political board you visit.
Or maybe you're thinking about how they were called bigots for saying gays have it coming?
That might be it.
#72782
Some guy named Joe Walsh posted this on FB:

"Post-Orlando thoughts: I could give a damn if I offend you. 50 innocent people are dead.

I'm sick & tired of political correctness when it comes to Islam. I'm sick & tired of Muslims killing innocent people.

Islam is a political ideology of conquest. It seeks to conquer, kill & destroy.

Under FL law, that gay nightclub was a gun free zone. Thanks to liberals, those victims were sitting ducks for a Muslim determined to kill.

Another day, another Muslim kills, and all the appeasing liberals cry - "But it's not Islam" and "Not all Muslims are terrorists." Yawn.

ISIS claims responsibility and Obama still blames hate & guns. Ok. Whatever.

The Orlando terrorist shouted "Allah Akbar" during the shooting. Nothing to do with Islam, huh?

And don't give me the damn "every religion can do this" moral equivalence bullshit. Only one religion kills like this. Everyday. Islam.

Any politician that says "mass shooting" should be run out of office immediately. It was an act of Islamic terror. On our soil.

Christian baker: "I won't bake your wedding cake.

Muslim: "I will shoot you in a nightclub."

Hey LGBT community: what's the bigger danger?

Wake up world: the bottom line is this: if we continue to deny that Islam has a very serious problem, more & more innocent people will be killed."
#72785
Here is another one that rings true with me:

I'm a Christian that believes being gay is a sin but because I'm a sinner in my own way I love my brothers and sisters and pray for them. I wish happiness and peace for them. I'm tired of the blame being put on guns and conservative views. We need to close our borders, arm our citizens and take our country back. You don't like the way we do things here, get the eff out. Bring God back to our schools, put children first, hold people accountable, make people work hard and give just verdicts for crimes. Wake up America, a liberal country is a DEAD one. The newspaper headlines prove that every day.
#72792
This is an example of one liberal weenie's idea that will fix the gun violence problem.
She forgets the huge number of people that are willfully driving without a license right now,
and she forgets the absolute fact that a criminal will acquire a gun OUTSIDE of any law passed.
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#72794
" We need to close our borders, arm our citizens and take our country back."

The shooter was a U.S. citizen, born and raised. How will closing our borders stop his sort of thing?
It's because he WAS a citizen that he could buy the guns so easily in the first place. He WAS "arming our citizens" just as you want, and see what it did?
"take our country back"? We can't even get 50% of voters to show up at the polls. And those who do show up get to choose from only two corrupt parties.

"Bring God back to our schools"
God/Yahweh/Allah (Wake up, they're the same guy) is the excuse for the guy doing this. Why would you want to expose every child to this nonsense? It's always religious people doing mass killings. Haven't you noticed?
For some reason Christians never blame "Christianity" when a shooter kills a doctor or bombs an abortion clinic.
"put children first,"
Isn't that what you criticize Liberals for doing? ("But what about the children?" bleeding heart stuff?)

You guys haven't even noticed that none of the suggestions anyone has offered to deal with this problem have anything to do with reality and the actual problem we're facing.
It was a citizen's right to bear arms that armed this citizen, yet you say ease of firearms purchase has nothing to do with the tragedy. ("More restrictions? NO WAY!")
Religion is what radicalized this guy, but you say we should bring religion into the classroom. Remember, if religion is taught in schools, it will be ALL religions, not just yours. ("First Amendment? Fuck it! Establish our religion, not theirs!")
The gay nightclub was a gun free zone? ALL establishments that serve alcohol are gun free zones. Ask any policeman if they want to start arming people as they consume alcohol. You won't get a single supporter among them.

Ranting the kind of nonsense we're hearing and then pretending it has anything to do with this problem is a waste of time except to rile up unthinking people to create a useful mob. But ask yourself who benefits from a useful mob? Not our Constitution or our way of life.
#72798
Dogzilla wrote:So.....Because there are *some* who will break the law, we should not have the laws in the first place?

Really?? That's your solution??
Laws upon laws upon laws does not fix the problem.
All it does is add bureaucracy to an already bloated, ineffective, and wasteful government.
Enforce our gun laws as they are.
Make the FBI (who let him go) do their job properly. Fed government dropped the ball....
Kill this stupid PC crap that kept his employer (or others for that matter) from saying anything, for fear of the PC police.
Allow citizens to carry, remove gun free zones....

And never, never, try to take away my right to defend myself. Because as sure as you do, someone will get one of those banned, illegal guns and try to kill me.

A criminal will not stop at your stupid added laws.
#72803
You guys haven't even noticed that none of the suggestions anyone has offered to deal with this problem have anything to do with reality and the actual problem we're facing.
No Clown....I have noticed....

In every case Obama makes one and only one "unrealistic suggestion" ...of us giving up our guns..

It's as if he didn't know America.....but on second thought, he does.....

He knows that it will never happen....making one suspect he doesn't care to find

a solution.....Notice his speeches after such tragedies....no sense of urgency and almost as if

he's disappointed more American didn't lose their lives....
#72804
So.....Because there are *some* who will break the law, we should not have the laws in the first place?
I'm betting it was against the law for the shooter to enter a gun free zone and shoot those people. What we need to do is enforce the laws we have instead of adding new laws that can only be enforced against the good guys. There's over 50 dead people who obeyed the law and one who didn't, the bad guy won.
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