[snakeoil]

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Here is the contract Queen Hillary has for her speech at UNLV. Please read the entire contract to get a true perspective into this woman running for President. Please note that ALL travel expenses, attorney fees, etc. are to be paid by UNLV.

I agree that it's time for America to have a woman President; just not this one.

[Clownkicker]

So what is it about the contract you don't like, snakeoil?
Travel fees and the rest are just part of the price.
If you don't like it, don't hire her.

She does what everyone does, only you can't even find out for sure how much G.W. Bush charges when he speaks.
Do you think he doesn't have a similar contract when he's out raking in the money?
Do you think Romney doesn't regret having his speeches recorded?

Such speaking events are intentionally used to trap people into embarrassing situations if everything isn't spelled out.

Only a fool would walk into such a trap when running for office.
I would hope you wouldn't want to vote for anyone dumb enough not to have an iron clad contract.

[snakeoil]

Clown:

1. No recording of her speech can be allowed.

2. UNLV is an educational institution and I feel that this is an exorbitant amount to spend on a speech of dubious worth when the money could be better used elsewhere.

3. Two reps from her to be provided for for three days. ($$$$)

4. Complete control over content of the speech.

5. Complete control over any questions (by picking the moderator.)

.6. Complete control of the introducer. (to make sure he/she doesn't say anything she doesn't want him/her to say?)

7. No one allowed on stage except her during speech. (wouldn't want to take the spotlight away from the Queen.)

8. Format, topic length of speech is solely by Hillary and remains her intellectual property. (does this mean that no one attending can quote her or even discuss what she said in her speech? But, UNLV must provide $1200 for a stenographer to record the speech for Hillary.

9. Hillary retains control over any others on the program. (Under the section "Event Sponsors)

Is that enough for you? I remind you that this is a speech at an educational institution.

[Grog]

"There are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what ...," Romney said.

Do you recall that little gem, Snakeoil? Mitt will until the day he departs the planet.

[Clownkicker]

1. No recording of her speech can be allowed.

The same is said at every concert and movie and other entertainment I attend.
Why would you have a problem with that?

2. UNLV is an educational institution and I feel that this is an exorbitant amount to spend on a speech of dubious worth when the money could be better used elsewhere.

So you blame Hillary's contract for what UNLV chooses to do with their money?
Hillary didn't hold a gun to their head and force them to sign.
Of course it's a waste. What's your point? Blame the University for how they waste their money, not the speaker they hired.

3. Two reps from her to be provided for for three days. ($$$$)

So would you be any happier if she didn't have the reps "provided for for three days" by the customer but instead you prefer Hillary charges them $25,000 more to cover the cost? Believe me, the customer will pay less if they do it themselves.
The cost will show up somewhere, and the cost for anything is always paid by the customer, one way or another.
You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

4. Complete control over content of the speech.

Yes, what's your point? Bruce Springsteen has complete control over the content of his show too.
You got a problem with that? Do you think someone should be telling him what to play?

5. Complete control over any questions (by picking the moderator.)

Yes. You think it would be fair for her to be blindsided by showing up unprepared to find a dishonest and hostile hatchet man like Bill O'Reilly?
How does that help Hillary make the points she showed up to make?
In a case like that she might not be allowed to talk about anything she actually wanted to talk about.
You seem to forget that Hillary, or any speaker, is there to give their point of view on something. They aren't there to give the moderators an outlet for their own agenda.

7. No one allowed on stage except her during speech. (wouldn't want to take the spotlight away from the Queen.)

The same can be said of Elton John when he gives a show, or johnforbes' beloved Beyonce, or anyone else you can think of. It would be downright stupid for a public figure (and a controversial one at that) to allow anyone on the stage when they are there. Even fans are known to do stupid things and injure performers. Forget about the nut jobs looking for attention. Have you forgotten what happened to Reagan and John Lennon? Do you think one of these rabid gun nuts here wouldn't get a hard on to be the one to take Hillary out?
There is no upside and plenty of downside in allowing others to be there.

8. Format, topic length of speech is solely by Hillary and remains her intellectual property. (does this mean that no one attending can quote her or even discuss what she said in her speech? But, UNLV must provide $1200 for a stenographer to record the speech for Hillary.

The same can be said of Martin Luther King Jr. with his speeches. Do you honestly think nobody can quote him?
Again, would you be any happier if Hillary charged an additional $2000-$3000 in her fee to pay for a stenographer herself, or should the school be allowed to send down a salaried employee for no additional cost to them?
Why does this stuff upset you so much. It's just logistics. Someone has to handle them, and it's much better if they are handled by contract before anyone shows up for the gig.

9. Hillary retains control over any others on the program. (Under the section "Event Sponsors)

Yes, so does FOXnews and Rush Limbaugh. Why shouldn't someone putting on a show be allowed to put on the show they want?
This is really mind boggling to me that you have a problem with someone, anyone, controlling their own show.
You're usually a pretty thoughtful guy.

"I remind you that this is a speech at an educational institution."

What the hell difference does the venue make? It's the "Hillary Roadshow" for gods sake. Why should the venue change the content of the show? Do you honestly think the "Trump Roadshow" is any less controlled?
When you go to see a piano concert of Beethoven at your local church, do you think the pianist is going to play something different from what they play in the town theater or the University Music School auditorium?
When you go to see the musical "Cat's" put on by the students at some University, do you think the songs in the show are going to be different from what you see on Broadway?

I'm honestly mystified that you think a performer shouldn't be allowed to negotiate the terms of their contract and that they shouldn't be allowed to determine the content of their own show.
Reagan used to insist he have jelly beans in his dressing room. That's silly to me, but what difference does it make.
If that's what he wanted, that's what he wanted.

It's just a contract. Nobody has to sign it. And if they do sign it, it's really none of your, or my, or anyone else's business.

[sillydaddy]

Is the Clown defending Hillary...or what ? :lol: :lol:

[Clownkicker]

No, I'm not defending Hillary, dimwit.

I'm defending a person's right to control their own show and charge what they want.
The trouble is, you honestly can't tell the difference between the two things.
It's like when the ACLU took Rush Limbaugh's side over privacy rights. They weren't defending him per se, they were defending the principle, as they always do. The principle is greater than anyone you just happen to hate.

Any other time you would be here praising "free enterprise" and free contracts between people and capitalism.
But you quickly throw away your most sacred values if you think Hillary might benefit from them. :lol:

That's what makes you a useful tool to your handlers.

[snakeoil]

Clown, I have studied Hillary for years. Her mentor, Saul Alinsky, Wrote "Reveille For Radicals which advocated the overthrow of capitalism and a more direct takeover of power. Try to find a copy of her commencement speech at Wellesley. Amazingly, Wellesley started the new policy of putting past graduates thesis onder lock and key when they became first lady. BTW, the speech is an ultra radical rant against the politics of the day. At the Black Panther trials she monitored the trials for signs of "rights abuses of Bobby Seal. At Wellesley she championed "children's right" railing against the parents who were trying to raise their children, I am not talking about real abuse. She felt the children must be allowed to mainly do what they want; the parentsw should only protect them from harming themselves. Remember the "it takes a village" speech.

I could go on but you get what I mean. Believe me, America will regret allowing this woman to become President.

[RealJustme]

No, I'm not defending Hillary, dimwit.

So Clown, then why are you defending her?

[Clownkicker]

"Believe me, America will regret allowing this woman to become President."-snakeoil

That's not a difficult prediction, snake.
I can already tell you America will regret allowing ANY of the conceivably electable candidates running to become President.

But that has nothing to do with pretending one person's typical boilerplate speaking contract is worse than someone else's when it isn't.

[johnforbes]

Romney's point was that 47 percent of the country is on some govt benefit.

Obama actually wanted to EXPAND food stamps, making a socialist argument that only the govt can furnish good nutrition, and that's part of the reason why 46 million are still on food stamps.

America, once vibrant, is now headed down the path to Sweden-style socialism, with open borders, high taxes on anybody who dares to succeed, and importing Muslims.

[RealJustme]

that has nothing to do with pretending one person's typical boilerplate speaking contract is worse than someone else's when it isn't.

Clown, why do fall on your own sword defending Hillary. It's like Obama won't say Islamic in the same sentence as ISIS, you won't admit Hillary is corrupt and a terrible candidate to become our next President. Rather than admitting that you'll just say, other are bad.

[Clownkicker]

No, Tool, I said they're ALL bad.
"I can already tell you America will regret allowing ANY of the conceivably electable candidates running to become President."-me

You should read what I post sometime instead of just trolling all day.
You might learn something.

Why don't you tell me where I'm wrong in my posts above instead of diverting with your clueless preconceptions?

[snakeoil]

Let's see, what is it she stands for and what are her positions on...

Hillary Clinton is campaigning as a guardian of President Barack Obama’s progressive policy accomplishments. In recent weeks, she has called the Affordable Care Act “one of the greatest accomplishments of President Obama, of the Democratic Party, and of our country,” and promised that she is “going to defend Dodd-Frank” and “defend President Obama for taking on Wall Street.”

Meanwhile, however, Clinton’s campaign has been relying on a team of strategists and fundraisers, many of whom spent much of the last seven years as consultants or lobbyists for business interests working to obstruct Obama’s agenda in those two areas.

Consultants associated with the Dewey Square Group, a lobbying firm that has been retained by business interests to defeat a variety of progressive reforms, are playing a major role in the Clinton campaign. Charles Baker III, the co-founder of Dewey, is a senior strategist and the campaign’s chief administrative officer. Michael Whouley, another Dewey co-founder, played an early role in advising Clinton’s plan for the current campaign by convening some of the very first strategy sessions. Senior Dewey officials Jill Alper and Minyon Moore are also close advisers and fundraisers for Clinton, while at least four other Clinton officials have worked at Dewey within the last four years. In addition, disclosures show that Clinton’s Super PACs Priorities USA Action and Correct the Record have also paid Dewey Square Group for a variety of services in this election.

[Clownkicker]

"Let's see, what is it she stands for and what are her positions on..."-snakeoil

You suggested you were going to enlighten us about Hillary's position on issues and then posted what everyone already knows; that she supports the ACA and supports Dodd-Frank.
THAT's your idea of a revelation on the issues? That's your evidence that she's corrupt? Do you think that will, or should, change anyone's vote?

What you think the lobby group has to do with her agenda is a mystery to me.
Or are you saying that because the group was paid to lobby against the ACA and Dodd-Framk in the past that that convinces you Hillary is secretly against the ACA and against Dodd-Frank?
Heck, you better tell every conservative you know to vote for her then. It's a surefire way to get them both repealed, right?

You do understand that consultants and lobbyists consult and lobby for whatever they're paid to consult and lobby for, don't you, snake?
They couldn't really care less what issues they represent at an given time.

(Pssst...it's a profit deal. As in war, the only people who win are those who play both sides for profit. Don't tell anyone. They might become disillusioned with our form of government if they learn that lobbyists might not be people of the absolute highest moral fiber.)

[sillydaddy]

In a letter disclosed Monday in a federal court filing, the FBI confirms one of the world’s worst-kept secrets: It is looking into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server.

Up to now the FBI would not confirm nor deny that it was conducting such investigation...now it's official.

The first domino is starting to fall.....

[Grog]

The "first domino?" It's been falling for months and months. :lol:

[RealJustme]

No, Tool, I said they're ALL bad.

There it is, the memorized response to anyone who is critical of Hillary. First he defends her and when you call him on it he repeats is standard "they're all bad" but that doesn't stop him from defending her. Watch this:

Hillary should be prosecuted for her handling of classified information.

[Clownkicker]

^^^^^ :lol: See, RealTool agrees with everything I said but it would choke him to admit it, so he diverts and distracts and trolls and does anything but talk about the topic at hand because he would be forced to admit I'm right about it.

It sucks being a useless troll, doesn't it, Tool? :lol:

[RealJustme]

See there it is!

[johnforbes]

There are times, as now, when one feels CLownhicker's pain.

Imagine having to try to defend a greedy, dishonest, pantsuited grandmother like Hillary.

[sillydaddy]

Like a chameleon changes color to blend in with its surroundings.....

Hillary changes her accent to blend in with her audience......

but I have noticed that when Hillary is in liar mode.....

she speaks in a deep almost robotic monotone and pronounces each and every word in a precise cadence.

[Clownkicker]

"but I have noticed that when Hillary is in liar mode.....
she speaks in a deep almost robotic monotone and pronounces each and every word in a precise cadence."-sillydaddy

It's called "being a lawyer".

Haven't you noticed johnforbes does exactly the same thing when he's lying?

[RealJustme]

See there is it is again.

[Clownkicker]

Tool, you need to ask your ESL teacher what "memorized response" means.

You seem to think it means someone makes an ass of you repeatedly. :lol:

[sillydaddy]

Well, Hillary lost N.H. to Bernie....

I guess the girls didn't vote for Hillary after all......

and are now condemned to Woman Hell ! :lol: :lol:

[Intrepid]

The pictures of Killery's campaign headquarters with crumpled American flags laying on the floor pretty much tell it all.
Biden is edging closer and closer as Killery continues to melt down. Soon will come the flying crockery and lamps.

[johnforbes]

There are times, as now, when one feels Clownlicker's pain.

Imagine having to try to defend a greedy, dishonest, pantsuited grandmother like Hillary.

[sillydaddy]

Bill Clinton said:

"Sometimes when I'm on a stage like this I wish we weren’t married," says @billclinton intro'ing his wife."So i can say what I really think"

So Bubba is getting tired of the bullshit Hillary asks him to say :lol: :lol:

[RealJustme]

Yep, apparently just before Bubba made that statement to the media, Hillary was going off on him about something that her really red in the face.

[sillydaddy]

Bernie did more damage to Hillary when he hinted she was bought, then....

the Benghazi and email scandals combined...

Hillary must now find a way to court big money donors without looking like she is in their pocket :lol: :lol:

[johnforbes]

Really would be sad if a Democrat got in this next time around to further ruin the country.

Look at the ruin caused to Europe's former greatness by socialism and dumb immigration policy.

[snakeoil]

John...If we ran our country as it should be run political party wouldn't matter. Our trouble is that the USA doesn't pay for anything; we put it on the credit card. If we had to have the funds coming in before we were allowed to spend government money, the parties would be indistinguishable. If all government spending was funded (taxes) the people would regulate who was in office better than they do now. The programs that are the darlings of the populace would be gone when the taxes needed to fund them became oppressive.

[RealJustme]

If all government spending was funded (taxes) the people would regulate who was in office better than they do now. The programs that are the darlings of the populace would be gone when the taxes needed to fund them became oppressive.

If every swinging dick in America had some skin in the game when it comes to paying taxes there would be major overhauls of those darling programs. Until there is flat tax the working middle class will shoulder most of the weight.