[marthad]

Sorry, but all I hear is Blah Blah Blah, your subscribers patience and support are wearing very thin! Please quit glad handing us and give us a FIRM date to have something up and running!

[VixenHotwife]

You've got to believe most of those bashing RC and VW are actually "planted" from the other site.
Those critical of the efforts to get VW and RC back and running seem to forget just who is responsible for all these problems.
It is not the people trying to fix things....
It is the cyber criminals who took down a popular and successful site so they could make things rough to get back to normal...and make a lot of money for themselves.
If the bashers are not with Igor and his ilk, then they are apparently worried about their $28 annual fee... and they are not very bright.
Yes, it must be possible that VW will never get back up, but the critics now are mostly phonies.
If Igor and his pals really were concerned with the way VW and RC was being run, they certainly had the option to start a rival site, and run it the way they like.
Anyone who posts here shoud remember they did not do that... they tried to destroy VW and RC instead.
If they attract half those who once joined RC, they stand to make millions of dollars.

[sourdoh]

I tend to agree with you Vixen. I can't think of any positive reasoning for those who come to these boards with no other intention than to bash VW/RC and anyone who is even remotely sympathetic. If this place is so awful and doomed, why not just let it be and stay happy wherever else they've settled? Pure love of conflict? Cussedness? Or some stake in driving away the few who hang here waiting?

[Cstrangex]

I'm a long time RC and HC member. Although I've posted a few pics, I'm mostly a lurker. Since the site became inoperative, I've been checking daily to see what's going on.

There is no doubt in my mind that someone or more likely someones, did some things that are, if not illegal, highly unethical. That being said, it's a porn site. Mostly amateur, but still a porn site. And since porn has never been what you would call a simmering pot of ethicism, that this would happen is not surprising. For those of you that post to this board and blast away at anything that moves, you're just muddying the water and wasting bandwidth. This site will either come back or it won't. If it doesn't then there are plenty of other places to view and enjoy without getting pissed and mouthing off.

As far as VC goes, it's just a petty copy of VW and RC. I would have thought that "he who must not be named" would have at least fucked around with the graphics and layout but it's pretty obvious that he bailed for bigger bucks and not for his innovation skills. After looking at the pic posts, he's leaning on the pros pretty heavy and posting pics that of the amatuers that have been posted here and elsewhere. The quality of even the pro pics, in some cases, sucks the big one. The quantity of submissions in most sections is two or three a day and in the vid section three a day is about the max in the last few weeks.

There, I've put in my 2 cents. I'm sure there will those who disagree and will bitch and moan. In any case it really doesn't matter one way or the other because life will go on.

[VWPublicRelations]

No offense Ghost, but why are you all being so evasive with the development? Why can't you get SOMETHING working? It's nice to relaunch at 100%, but not if it's going to take a month. Hell even your competitors didn't do that. When we don't see SOMETHING, it's hard for us to believe ANYTHING.

Katherine lied to us didn't she? Where is Katherine, did she quit, get fired? You have a lot more credibility than her, but after 1 week delayed to 2 weeks delayed to Wednesday and then no explanation until Friday, and then the explanation is weak and ambiguous. You will be lucky to still have any contributors.

BTW a few days? 1 day, 2 days, 5 days? After Katherine's week long "Small Delay", I'm afraid to guess what that means.

Good God! I was just manually putting in all of your info into the new database to make sure no one is missed. Sorry that I cannot be at 10 places all at once. Glitches happen- we are working with computers and massive data. Sunday we will be live! Hopefully, we can all put this behind us.

[emmebie49]

Katherine, talking about my RC back soon, when will I see your tits ???
Waiting more than 3 weeks to see them...

[wespen]

me too, yummy!!!

[amoperizoma]

my favourite amateur site!!! I really hope you'll come back soon!!

[DarknLadyJedi]

You've got to believe most of those bashing RC and VW are actually "planted" from the other site.
Those critical of the efforts to get VW and RC back and running seem to forget just who is responsible for all these problems.
It is not the people trying to fix things....
It is the cyber criminals who took down a popular and successful site so they could make things rough to get back to normal...and make a lot of money for themselves.
If the bashers are not with Igor and his ilk, then they are apparently worried about their $28 annual fee... and they are not very bright.
Yes, it must be possible that VW will never get back up, but the critics now are mostly phonies.
If Igor and his pals really were concerned with the way VW and RC was being run, they certainly had the option to start a rival site, and run it the way they like.
Anyone who posts here shoud remember they did not do that... they tried to destroy VW and RC instead.
If they attract half those who once joined RC, they stand to make millions of dollars.

You never went on S&F did you?

I seriously doubt any of these bashers are plants from Igor, he doesn't need to. THIS is the ultimate playground for them. Come here and attack anyone they want and then go back there to gloat and brag about it.

[DarknLadyJedi]

Good God! I was just manually putting in all of your info into the new database to make sure no one is missed. Sorry that I cannot be at 10 places all at once. Glitches happen- we are working with computers and massive data. Sunday we will be live! Hopefully, we can all put this behind us.

Which Sunday? I'm sorry, but you have missed a lot of self imposed deadlines with no comment or explanation until long after the deadline had passed. Even in cases where you had to have known that the deadline would be missed in advance.


By the way, I am glad to see that you locked the other thread. Perhaps you could add all the official updates there, hopefully daily. That way everyone can find it quickly and see exactly what is happening.

[Ghost]

VixenHotWife you could not have said it better ...
Thank u and may god forgive the hands that did this to VW.
And rest assure we are coming back.

[Phippy]

My clock says it's Sunday...

[Jewels]

Hmmm...I interpret Katherine's launch date of Sunday to mean next Sunday, July 8th. Well, it's been this long so another week won't make much difference. (I hope the lifeboat doesn't spring any *** before then!) I know that paid members can email to have their user names and passwords reset, but what about those of us who stay on the free side? What are our options once the new site is launched?

[Punkin51]

HOOOOOOOORAHHHHHHHH!

[Priceless]

Leadfingers you sound like someone i know ...
let us handle this please ...
yes please you can all send us your private infos in regards to your subscription and so forth. we still need to verify it all.

I have asked once please list where we should send this info to. I understand you are emailing everyone but we have been a member for years and our email has changed a few times. Please list the email address. Thank you

[tacoeaterx]

The check is in the mail, it's only a cold sore, I'll respect you in the morning, I won't come in your mouth & vw will be operational soon all empty promises.

[sourdoh]

You were able to pay for membership without a valid email address?

[Ghost]

SuzieHaystack kindly email me to billing@redclouds.com attention Ghost
tx

[ericls]

This is all a load of BS, this has going on long enough and I'll 100 percent that VW will not be up and running today, Sunday.

As for a sister sites that's not coming, MFF, VW says there are not obligated to refund money. As far as I can see it, there source bill the bills as VW and all there general sister so have to clear this up. This cannot choose what they want and not have any obligation and say the Igor create this.

This probably won't be posted I do not know how VW sees an OPEN FORUM!

[Ghost]

Sunday noon at 11:44 a.m
morning to all of you ....
we are inches away from getting there ...
few more glinches ... hoping to get over that hurdle soon.
get back to you in a few.
thanks again for baring with us

[Steve57]

Thanks, Ghost.

And of course, Katherine. Still be needing de boobies.

[Ghost]

ok SuzieHaystack ... good idea
the sky would be clearer to all of us then and the system would start shooting an email to all explaining the standard procedure

[writermancali]

I've been a paying member of RC for ten years and every post I make never appears on any of the threads....very disappointing....

[cavedog]

Ghost,

Once the email has been sent, will you let us know here on the board so that we will know if we have not received it.

Good luck with the new start up.

[dirtydvd]

Well, the other site is up and running with pics, so WTF is going on here? Redclouds members for ages and now I am fucked. Not happy.

[cmtmit]

trying to post some pics to keep things going and they don't post. This is a fuckin joke

[JDinPA17603]

Ghost, I sent my email, waiting patiently ... it is now 10:03 EDT and no site hope you guys get this act together, miss my favorite sites, Voyerweb, Homeclips and Redclouds the BB's and Video Chat.
Will keep on checking in. Good luck to the owners ... all of the dedicated members are waiting...

[Sherlock]

So what happened to the announcement from Katherine this morning which stated VW would be back on line today? I noticed that it was conviently removed. I bet this won't be posted since it shows what a bunch of liars you are and it confirms to me that VW won't be back. Also I never got an email back showing my "new username/password" etc. what a joke this has become!!'

[Sherlock]

Well ghost why didn't you post my earlier submission (min ago)

[Ghost]

Sunday 10:19 pm
more fine tuning is required to the site. again we ask you to bare with us.
we apologize for some of you, and the other half thanks for your continuous support.
honestly speaking its not too long now before we launch a Beta version to the site; but due to unforseen glitches ... delay again was the master of the situation.
in my nature i prefer not to set another launch date at this moment of time ... but we promise to surprise you ... and that you can count on..!

[proditus]

Hey Ghost... I never got a reply to my email to Kate about my multiple memberships with you guys... I had a membership at HC/RC/MFF/FB any chance of a reply about it in the enar future... and about what the options are at this point for teh mff membership?

[DarknLadyJedi]

Sunday 10:19 pm
more fine tuning is required to the site. again we ask you to bare with us.
we apologize for some of you, and the other half thanks for your continuous support.
honestly speaking its not too long now before we launch a Beta version to the site; but due to unforseen glitches ... delay again was the master of the situation.
in my nature i prefer not to set another launch date at this moment of time ... but we promise to surprise you ... and that you can count on..!

So today was the anticipated launch date and not next Sunday?

[Ghost]

questions in regards to memberships, CC, etc
pls email us to billing@redclouds.com
attn: Ghost or Willie

and for some of you that doubts us ... don't bet on it ..!
simply we got no choice but to come back ..!
matter of time and you will hear from us.
again we will dominate the WORLD'S LARGEST AMATEUR SITE ON THE INTERNET! and together we shall have fun..!

[rockclimber]

Post some screen shots or something?

Your info vacuum is strangling your launch ghost.

You cannot get me to believe you can't put something, at minimum, up to this watchful waiting audience.

Hey DJ,, Jewels thought it was 8 JUL 12 as well, my read was 1 JUL 12.

:?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

[Ghost]

DarknLadyJedi ...didnt mean to keep you guessing guys.
but "everyday" is going to be a "Sunday" to us from now on until we launch a presentable beta version of your favourite VW site.

[talespinner001]

At this rate, there will be no one left surprise.... especially if you keep blocking BB posts.. as you have twice tonight to me... that pose serious questions as to the future of VW.

[Ghost]

before i sign off for the day ...
please email us to billing@redclouds.com in regards to memberships or any concerns that you may have.
I am not always on the board to answer your questions.
a simple email would be recommendable.
tx

[Sherlock]

The only apparent glitch is trying to keep people believing that this site is coming back. The email from Katherine this morning at 2:40 am as well as her announcement here this morning said the site would be back today. Why can't you have the decency to answer my posts about this matter as well as my other posts which you refuse to respond to. I've been a member for 5 yrs on all three sites and your treatment of the concerns in my (as well as others) posts is disgraceful!! Lol yes we will be surprised when this site is finally live, but we have heard the message that the site will be live in days and that there are always some sort of small glitches that prevent us from even seeing one page or picture of this supposed out of this world new site for almost a month. Why can't you show your community something after all this time? What about a pic of "katherines tits" if she even exists. If you can't even do that then I and everyone would want a full refund!!! There doesn't appear to be any effort being made by the new owners or anyone else there to really satisfy this community. Simply show us something of substance and be open, honest and transparent. We deserve that much! So did the new owners just take all the money and run? Well I must say that I do appreciate the fact that you finally let my post be seen. I thank you for that Ghost.

[Hands]

It seems much easier to write one official update daily to post on the board. For the three or four time that I've emailed over the last week I get a generic reply that never really answers the question of when the sites will return. Even incremental progress would be better than no sites at all. I and many other are disappointed in your slow return and many missed promises with little to no communication.

[Leadfingers]

before i sign off for the day ...
please email us to billing@redclouds.com in regards to memberships or any concerns that you may have.
I am not always on the board to answer your questions.
a simple email would be recommendable.
tx

Wow, did you guys get through all the thousands of backlogged emails already?

Sorry.. need to go afk...my bullsh*t detector is pinging again.

[themission1428]

questions in regards to memberships, CC, etc
pls email us to billing@redclouds.com
attn: Ghost or Willie

and for some of you that doubts us ... don't bet on it ..!
simply we got no choice but to come back ..!
matter of time and you will hear from us.
again we will dominate the WORLD'S LARGEST AMATEUR SITE ON THE INTERNET! and together we shall have fun..!

Bwahahaha !!!! bullshit....hahaha ! lol...

I agree Ghost....voyeurweb will dominate the worlds largest amateur site on the internet....sure bro....and oh by the way, Igor must be laughing reading your posts here....he doesnt need to do anything to make money or get the business from VW...you are giving it to him and other competitors by your own actions here that everybody can see worldwide....

Bwahahaha ! you are funny.....let me find some review sites or maybe go to ripoffreports.com and tell the truth about voyeurweb.

see you later buddy....i got your post and will paste it to review sites and ripoffreport.com so your credibility is destroyed.

other members please do that as well...lets bring this site down ourselves before voyeurweb does it to us.....

[MikeyR]

I attempted to put a comment onto this board two weeks ago and it didn't get approved. I didn't criticize anyone and i certainly didn't use any swearwords yet i'm screened out while others who use large dollops of industrial language are everywhere. :?

At the end of the day there are women out there who feel the overwhelming need to post pictures of themselves naked on this site in the hope that people will look at them.

As a kind-hearted person i'm willing to to donate my valuable time to helping them fulfill this need they have to be looked at.

Surely it can't be that difficult to get things sorted? :ugeek:

[tribulato]

My .2 c ... I just come here for a laugh.
Not been believing the BS about the site being re-launched "in just a few more days" for at least a week or more.
Nor about the fab new features. WHAT FEATURES ? This is a PORN site, period. What was out-standing was the contributors and they are almost all GONE.

[dnukemxx]

Is there anything I need to do? I have belonged to Redclouds and Homeclips for a long time and do NOT know what is going to happen and / or if I need to contact someone to be "included" when and if this goes back up.

[Ghost]

you guys have every right to blow some steam ... we understand that.
and for the people who attacked me personally ... i also understand that... yes i deleted your posts because i didnt want your mothers to find out what you are able of. I just wonder if you understand how some of you are behaving.
anyways ... off to work now and lets hope for the best.
see you soon

[DarknLadyJedi]

No offense Ghost, but why are you all being so evasive with the development? Why can't you get SOMETHING working? It's nice to relaunch at 100%, but not if it's going to take a month. Hell even your competitors didn't do that. When we don't see SOMETHING, it's hard for us to believe ANYTHING.

Katherine lied to us didn't she? Where is Katherine, did she quit, get fired? You have a lot more credibility than her, but after 1 week delayed to 2 weeks delayed to Wednesday and then no explanation until Friday, and then the explanation is weak and ambiguous. You will be lucky to still have any contributors.

BTW a few days? 1 day, 2 days, 5 days? After Katherine's week long "Small Delay", I'm afraid to guess what that means.

Good God! I was just manually putting in all of your info into the new database to make sure no one is missed. Sorry that I cannot be at 10 places all at once. Glitches happen- we are working with computers and massive data. Sunday we will be live! Hopefully, we can all put this behind us.

It's not the glitches that people are upset about. It's the "you can slap this back in my face if we aren't up on Wednesday" comment followed by not only not being up on Wednesday, but not even getting a comment until Friday. But there was plenty of time to patrol the boards and delete posts.

[Navigator]

I attempted to put a comment onto this board two weeks ago and it didn't get approved. I didn't criticize anyone and i certainly didn't use any swearwords yet i'm screened out while others who use large dollops of industrial language are everywhere. :?

I've noticed the same thing myself. A while back I wrote a reply to some of "themission"'s spew. I was actually supportive of Katherine and yet my post never made it onto the board, while "themission"'s rantings keep showing up completely unabated. Just what is the deal here?

[Sgmrs]

Good job "katherine". YET ANOTHER deadline missed. AND your own post was deleted, very professional... Even for someone in drug trafficking (paylan) and scamming that is low. Am I suprised? NO. You guys are getting really good at destroying yourselves. Go ahead and piss off all of your contributors, the people WHO MADE THIS SITE. Ghost, you seem a lot more reliable than "katherine" but this shit needs to stop. This constant waiting game is getting old. Its not the waiting portion of the game either, its the shitty PR which constantly lies to its customers. That is complete bull shit that you can keep telling us "we will be live Sunday, Wednesday, Sunday, few days, when we are done ass Fucking donkeys."I (ok maybe that last part wasn't technically officially posted.) if you are really working on this site how do you have enough time to censor and delete posts you dont like? NOBODY will trust you guys enough to give you money let alone with their own intimate photos and videos. VW PR- EPIC FAAAAAIIIIIIILLLLL!!

[Sherlock]

Top of the morning to you. Will we see something, anything of substance, regardless of size (no pun intended)? Perhaps rally the troops so to speak and post a pic of Katherine's tits here like we have all been waiting for. Surely that can't be to difficult to accomplish.

[MAStan]

This has all the earmarks of a financially troubled company. I do hope you make it but I have a bad feeling here.
I work with troubled companies and very few make it out when they are in the position you appear to be in. ---- spending cash to restart the business with very little positive cash flow.
After 12 years with you, I hope I am wrong.