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#60522
In return Iran chants death to America and agrees to consider inspections after their committee reviews the requests. Obama declares that history has been made. Iran giggles.

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Iran and the United States and its negotiating partners finally reached agreement Tuesday on a deal that would curb Iran's nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief. The deal includes a compromise between Washington and Tehran that would allow U.N. inspectors to press for visits to Iranian military sites as part of their monitoring duties. However, access at will to any site would not necessarily be granted and even if so, could be delayed, a condition that critics of the deal are sure to seize on as possibly giving Tehran time to cover any sign of non-compliance with its commitments.

Under the deal, Tehran would have the right to challenge the U.N. request and an arbitration board composed of Iran and the six world powers that negotiated with it would have to decide on the issue.

The economic benefits for Iran are potentially massive. It stands to receive more than $100 billion in assets frozen overseas, and an end to a European oil embargo and various financial restrictions on Iranian banks.

The deal is a "bad mistake of historic proportions," Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Tuesday, adding that it would enable Iran to "continue to pursue its aggression and terror in the region."

Sunni Arab rivals of Shiite Iran are none too happy, either, with Saudi Arabia in particularly issuing veiled threats to develop its own nuclear program.
That wacky Obama does it again, it's almost as if Obama is on the other side. :?:
#60525
Even the New York Times called it an insane deal
We have a deal. It's a deal worse than even we imagined possible. It's a deal that gives the Iranian regime $140b in return for ... effectively nothing: no dismantlement of Iran's nuclear program, no anytime/anywhere inspections, no curbs on Iran's ballistic missile program, no maintenance of the arms embargo, no halt to Iran's sponsorship of terror.
Obama just funded Iran's war machine and insured they will have nukes.
#60582
Two questions for the libtards. If this is such a great deal for our country and the world, why is Obama and Kerry frantically trying to convince us of its merits while the Ayatollahs celebrate chanting death to America like it so much? Iranians dance in the street while Americans scratch our heads and ask what just happened?
#60584
" Iranians dance in the street while Americans scratch our heads and ask what just happened?"-RealTool

Tool, they get the embargo lifted, their economy will pick up, and they will be able to travel the world and people from all over the world will travel there. Of course they are happy. And what we get out of that is that exposure to the world is the best inoculation against extremism.

But here we have a bunch of people asking "what just happened?" because they are ignorant and don't care to learn what just happened. They are content to swallow whatever propagand their handlers feed them.
At the same time they refuse to listen to anyone else's analysis of the deal. They refuse to understand that this is a deal also signed off on by Germany, France, and the U.K.. They don't want a nuclear bomb in their backyards either.
They refuse to consider that some deal is better than no deal at all. Reagan made a nuclear deal with Russia, and they were out to destroy us. Now the IAEA will have access to Iran. Before the economic sanctions are lifted, the IAEA will have to confirm that Iran has fulfilled certain technical steps and reported them to the UN Security Council.

No matter how good the deal is or might have been, idiots like you are going to listen solely to your handlers and bitch and moan and destroy your own country with division. You will forget that without the deal Iran would be doing whatever it damn well pleased and could have had a bomb in 2-3 months..
Also, Iranian oil will now freely enter the world market in larger quantities, ultimately lowering your gas prices.

Now it will be conventionally armed and will help stop ISIL expansion north since Iran is mostly Shiite and ISIL is Sunni.

This game is far more complex than your pea brains can comprehend. And to top it off, if Iran somehow builds a bomb anyway, Israel will still do what it was going to do all along, which is bomb the shit out of them.
It isn't like Israel just went away.

This deal may or may not be a good deal. Time will tell, just as it did with Russia. But one thing is certain: you don't know a thing about what its effect will be. That still doesn't stop you from panning it only because you hate Obama.

Don't be a tool. Educate yourself, fool.
#60585
Only a libtard would think giving the world's biggest sponsor of terrorists $150 Billion and dropping sanctions based upon a "promise" they'll allow us to inspect sites "they approve" is a good deal. Iran has never complied with any agreements they've made with us, all why shouting death to America. Obama is a traitor.
#60592
" Even Clown says he's not sure.
When you make a deal..and you're not sure it's a good deal...
the fact that you are not sure......makes it a bad deal."-sillydaddy

Only three minor things wrong with that stupidity, silly.

1. "EVEN" I say I'm not sure? :lol: I'm not an international treaty negotiator. I didn't make any deal, and since I didn't make any deal, I can't yet tell you whether it is any good or not.
On the other hand, there are a lot of people who think it IS a good deal. You just choose to ignore them.

2. Of course I'm "not sure." I'm not your kind of stupid. But you're not sure it's a bad deal either, though you are pretending to know. You haven't read it and if you ever did, you wouldn't understand it. So you're talking out of your ass, just like The Tool.

3. Nobody knows the future. Not you, not FOXnews, not Breitbart, not the Republicans, not Obama. They're all pretending to know whether this is a good deal or not. But nobody can possibly know yet whether it will turn out to be a good deal, and nobody can know what would have happened without the deal, so even if it seems to turn out to be a "bad deal" it might have been far worse without it. There's still a lot of hard work to do to make it work.
Netanyahu may have convinced you that he knows, but the Israeli papers don't all think it's bad. You choose to believe him and ignore the others. It all comes down to you choosing to believe your handlers' propaganda over other views and opinions, and there's nothing I or anyone can do about that willingness on your part to stop thinking for yourself.
#60608
so even if it seems to turn out to be a "bad deal" it might have been far worse without it.
At least we'll know they would have had $150 Billion less to spend on their war machine without the deal! Plus now they're permitted to open up their oil exports for endless funding. Sure well know if it was a bad deal.
#60614
You will forget that without the deal Iran would be doing whatever it damn well pleased and could have had a bomb in 2-3 months..
Also, Iranian oil will now freely enter the world market in larger quantities, ultimately lowering your gas prices. ~~Clown
The way Clown tells it ......The Iranians are going to kill us anyway....

but with cheap oil..now it won't hurt so much.
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